Debate Vtuber simps about being pedophiles

[JustSomeDong]

No sweetie. We just think it's funny that people are going to defend Josh's bad behavior after he's hosted and shared CP with a pattern of behavior that can't be denied. And when he spergs out calling other people pedos, doxing people, harassing them, in a never ending spergfest over some cringe jokes or some autistic cartoon, you go to defend the guy that shared the child porn. Cry bully about something else sweatie.

You talk like a redditor and your shits all retarded.

 

[Saffronette]

What's rather strange is how your friend is still posting here despite this narrative you two cooked up that Null banned him apparently. What's also strange is how you are accusing people of being pedophiles for no reason despite whining about it being done to you after you have spent an entire week defending sexual depictions of kids.

I didn't accuse anyone, I just thought his reaction to what Voodoo said was suspicious. I mean all you guys have done is just called me a pedo, but I haven't suddenly turned into one. It just doesn't exactly hold any weight when I'm not the one posting 3d semi-realistic renders of children and asking if they found it sexy. But hey, that's not creepy right?

This shows that you have no intention of integrating with this community and that you treat the forum as a dumping ground for content banned pretty much anywhere else.
You are here for four years and you don't know that Josh has a thread on the forum and those issues were discussed there, in other places here and on his podcast. So if it was supposed to be some gotcha, well, it's not, you don't even need to leave the site to find all this.

Ah so that what it is, I didn't integrate properly. Well I'm sorry, I wasn't told that I needed to be a part of the community. As long as I've been here I have been mostly staying on topic or haven't even been posting anything NSFW unless it was relevant to a thread. I actually forgot about the thread he had, not many people mention it.

 

[3322]

I didn't accuse anyone, I just thought his reaction to what Voodoo said was suspicious. I mean all you guys have done is just called me a pedo, but I haven't suddenly turned into one. It just doesn't exactly hold any weight when I'm not the one posting 3d semi-realistic renders of children and asking if they found it sexy. But hey, that's not creepy right?

Yeah it's all very sussy, just like your fetish for animals and vtuber lolis that resemble animals. Do you like the animal vtubers more because you are a furry? Also how many puppies have you and Kody Aaron Walters molested together?

 

[The Cunting Death]

I fucking told you to quit while you're ahead. You didn't listen.

Also you didn't listen to the first thing you're supposed to do when you sign up: USE A DIFFERENT NAME.


Also unlike other people, I'm trying to be nice but it's really hard to do so when you don't listen.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

Now if you say that people who like cartoon girls happen to have a large crossover with people who actually like real young girls. I'd ask where you're getting those numbers from

You don't need a peer reviewed study on a literally impossible to research subject to make an educated conclusion on this matter. If the kiwi farms was a site dedicated to the consumption and redistribution of violent sexual abuse against (fictional!!!!!) minors, capable of hosting large amounts of content, capable of having PMs and hidden threads, with a constantly deleting chat, and a sysadmin who has proven time and time again to be hardcore dedicated to privacy and not giving a fuck about the laws of other countries, what are the odds that it might end up being used to distribute material obtained through the genuine abuse of a child. What are the odds it might connect people that would exchange material through other sources?

No one wakes up in the morning with a hard drive full of child pornography. It is obtained through networks. That doesn't mean we ban flat chested girls or institute impossible to enforce "I know it when I see it" laws but some dude sitting on a discord, surrounded by other dudes united solely in their desire for (fictional!!!!!) underage girls is fucking worrying. If this was a community dedicated to drawings of someone putting peanut butter on their dick and having ants bite it, no one would be surprised when one of them put peanut butter on their dick and shoved it an an ant mound. It's almost laughable to imply that it wouldn't, let alone that it would happen less often than non anthill dicking communities.

The end argument comes down to morality and trust. You are being told to trust people actively celebrating their attraction to (fictional I swear!!!!) minors who will happily talk about it and get off on making other people uncomfortable. And you are supposed to take their word that they aren't attracted to real minors. I don't fucking trust them.

 

[Anne Hyroe]

The number of vtubers protesting that they can’t possibly be paedos because the people behind the accounts are over 18 (whether or not they’ve verified this) is even more sussy than Fuentes’ inner circle. If you’re caught in a police sting then you don’t get let off just because the person who presented themselves as a 15 year old was actually 40.

 

[Altera]

You don't need a peer reviewed study on a literally impossible to research subject to make an educated conclusion on this matter. If the kiwi farms was a site dedicated to the consumption and redistribution of violent sexual abuse against (fictional!!!!!) minors, capable of hosting large amounts of content, capable of having PMs and hidden threads, with a constantly deleting chat, and a sysadmin who has proven time and time again to be hardcore dedicated to privacy and not giving a fuck about the laws of other countries, what are the odds that it might end up being used to distribute material obtained through the genuine abuse of a child. What are the odds it might connect people that would exchange material through other sources?

No one wakes up in the morning with a hard drive full of child pornography. It is obtained through networks. That doesn't mean we ban flat chested girls or institute impossible to enforce "I know it when I see it" laws but some dude sitting on a discord, surrounded by other dudes united solely in their desire for (fictional!!!!!) underage girls is fucking worrying. If this was a community dedicated to drawings of someone putting peanut butter on their dick and having ants bite it, no one would be surprised when one of them put peanut butter on their dick and shoved it an an ant mound. It's almost laughable to imply that it wouldn't, let alone that it would happen less often than non anthill dicking communities.

The end argument comes down to morality and trust. You are being told to trust people actively celebrating their attraction to (fictional I swear!!!!) minors who will happily talk about it and get off on making other people uncomfortable. And you are supposed to take their word that they aren't attracted to real minors. I don't fucking trust them.

This is literally the same argument and talking points that actual lolcows use before declaring all kiwifarm users real life terrorists hellbent on killing trans people. Their conclusion is the same too "I don't trust them, SHUT THEM DOWN BOYS"

My only possible response is the same response I use when the cows use it "haha what a retard" (you, you're the retard.)

In the same way that I'm fairly confident that Null isn't using Kiwifarms as a front for his secret PMC dedicated solely to killing trans people, just because people on kiwi make fun of trans people. I'm fairly certain that there isn't a secret pedophile ring using Kiwifarms as a front, and openly posting about loving vtubers as the dogwhistle to be let into the secret society. People who post offtopic vtuber porn should be banned or actioned as normal because it's against the spirit of kiwi to be a coomer retard completely off topic, but i'm still not ready to classify an entire thread as pedophiles.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

This is literally the same argument and talking points that actual lolcows use before declaring all kiwifarm users real life terrorists hellbent on killing trans people. Their conclusion is the same too "I don't trust them, SHUT THEM DOWN BOYS"

My only possible response is the same response I use when the cows use it "haha what a retard" (you, you're the retard.)

You do understand that the "real life terrorism hell bent on killing trans people" would probably consist of a single text file with a torrent magnet, an encryption key, and a time window during which the torrent would be seeded right? Maybe a tor address. You know, shit that isn't a strike team of kiwicommandos hitting the tranch.

 

[Sanshain]

For somebody who hates pedophiles, @Fields Of Rye sure does seem to know an awful lot about the precise methods they congregate, and intimate knowledge of how they obtain their perfidious material...

 

[Altera]

You do understand that the "real life terrorism hell bent on killing trans people" would probably consist of a single text file with a torrent magnet, an encryption key, and a time window during which the torrent would be seeded right? Maybe a tor address. You know, shit that isn't a strike team of kiwicommandos hitting the tranch.

While that's fair, I still just don't really believe it's happening here. I have to ask if you genuinely think that it's really happening here, and if you DO, if you really think that posting "OUUUUUGH" in the vtuber thread is really the secret passphrase that gains these peoples trust enough to send you that msg.

 

[Sanshain]

While that's fair, I still just don't really believe it's happening here. I have to ask if you genuinely think that it's really happening here, and if you DO, if you really think that posting "OUUUUUGH" in the vtuber thread is really the secret passphrase that gains these peoples trust enough to send you that msg.

Plus, I'd like to know who and when these messages are posted. I browse the vtuber thread daily and never see this happening. I constantly read other threads that say 'wow look at those pedos and their vile lustful behaviors in that cursed vtuber thread' yet mysteriously I never see quotes, screenshots or any other evidence that such things are happening. That's kind of why I like browsing it; it's one of the tamest threads on the farms.

Edit: Just for comparison, look at the tranny threads and see how much horrific tranny porn is stashed there that nobody even bats an eye to.

 

[Dave.]

The whole pedophilia argument for vtubing simping is irrelevant to my question here, can someone explain to me what the fuck the appeal is? Even if you don't like anime for reasons Null probably said, you have to at least admit anime and manga usually have plots and character growth. But why would I want to watch a virtual animatronic play video games or chat? That sounds mind numbingly boring.

 

[Altera]

The whole pedophilia argument for vtubing simping is irrelevant to my question here, can someone explain to me what the fuck the appeal is? Even if you don't like anime for reasons Null probably said, you have to at least admit anime and manga usually have plots and character growth. But why would I want to watch a virtual animatronic play video games or chat? That sounds mind numbingly boring.

I just like having background noise and don't like most of the normie streamers who are peddling that stupid always fake-screaming to actual 8 and under children whose parents have offloaded babysitting duty onto their ipad. If you wanna say that it's just or even more cringe as that, to you, that's fine but it's acceptable white noise for me.

 

[Amaranth]

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This guy walks up to you in the street and slaps your dog's ass, what do you do?
(oof, his Kiwifarms thread is the first result when you google his name, lol)

he got so tilted in a vc one day, he pulled out an airsoft gun pretending it was real and pumped it yelling "so you think this is funny?"

 

[Altera]

he got so tilted in a vc one day, he pulled out an airsoft gun pretending it was real and pumped it yelling "so you think this is funny?"

That's hilarious.

 

[TheSword]

But he even admitted to allowing loli and shota on 9chan too which was surprising to me, so I don't think he's being fully honest about what actually transpired. I wouldn't find his actions so suspicious if even he can't take being called a pedo but will do it to other people he dislikes/disagrees with. It seems to me he has a legitimate fear of being convicted as one from the initial response he replied to me with.

Aren’t you that fat black chick that literally has to sleep with nerds at anime cons cuz no one else wants her

 

[Dave.]

I just like having background noise and don't like most of the normie streamers who are peddling that stupid always fake-screaming to actual 8 and under children whose parents have offloaded babysitting duty onto their ipad. If you wanna say that it's just or even more cringe as that, to you, that's fine but it's acceptable white noise for me.

You do you I guess, but if you need good background noise, JCS or Soft white underbelly are personal recommendations. There's also a lot to learn and unpack from them too.

 

[Estolysis]

The whole pedophilia argument for vtubing simping is irrelevant to my question here, can someone explain to me what the fuck the appeal is? Even if you don't like anime for reasons Null probably said, you have to at least admit anime and manga usually have plots and character growth. But why would I want to watch a virtual animatronic play video games or chat? That sounds mind numbingly boring.

It's mostly lonely men who want to pretend they have girlfriends, similar to waifus, they call their virtual girlfriends oshis.

 

[TitchBitties]

The whole pedophilia argument for vtubing simping is irrelevant to my question here, can someone explain to me what the fuck the appeal is? Even if you don't like anime for reasons Null probably said, you have to at least admit anime and manga usually have plots and character growth. But why would I want to watch a virtual animatronic play video games or chat? That sounds mind numbingly boring.

As someone who has consumed both anime and watching real people play video games from time to time, I do not even slightly see the appeal in combining them. But I also don't enjoy the "cute girls doing cute things" genre so that might play into it.

 

[Pizza Parker's Pizza Time]

But why would I want to watch a virtual animatronic play video games or chat? That sounds mind numbingly boring.

That's how I feel about streamers in general, virtual or not. Maybe I'm just from the wrong generation, but the appeal is lost on me. I typically can't stand to watch the majority of them for more than a few minutes at a time, or a worthwhile moment that's been clipped. I'd rather be playing a game myself.