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[northstar747]

They blew it with Hillary. The party elders and the Clintons were SURE she was going to win and expected her to pick a successor. They were shocked when she got upended by a black guy in 2008 and again in 2016 with Orange Man. They put all their eggs in one basket and lost it all. The republicans have a much more organic succession plan. Its not perfect but superior to the democrat 'strategy'.

I used to disagree on that front. Note used to.

The party having more control over its candidates makes sense to a degree. you d avoid a case where you get everyone free for alling eachother during a primary.

But yeah the clintons basically controlling the DNC and it being gutted back in 2016 caused alot of damage.

Kamala and crew were all diversity hires and all the somewhat able people have fled the shit show.

 

[CarlosDanger]

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[Absolutego]

Did they blow it with Hillary though, or did they just not expect Obama to basically take over the party and then not give a shit when his own Presidency was over, leaving the DNC to pick up the pieces?

There's no unified "they' on this one. The Obama faction are definitely frustrated he didn't do more to develop a successor, but he also had to deal with a DNC completely controlled by Hillary all of two years into his first term. The direction funds for prospective candidates went in a much more Clintonite direction than Obama cared for, but he couldn't fight it while also dealing with a Congress controlled by a GOP that was very much playing hardball with the Obama agenda.

Not absolving Obama of his choice to say fuck it and go play Hollywood, but part of the reason things are so deadlocked right now is that, to varying extents, both parties have been bitterly subverting politicians who aren't part of the post-1990 neoliberal/neoconservative Uniparty order for more than a decade now.

 

[Vaclav]

Did they blow it with Hillary though, or did they just not expect Obama to basically take over the party and then not give a shit when his own Presidency was over, leaving the DNC to pick up the pieces?

They did expect Obama to take over the party. That's why Hillary and her allies worked overtime behind the scenes to blunt his influence. It wasn't too hard for them to do, given the fact that he transparently cared about nothing but his image and expected underlings to do all the hard work for him. That's why he didn't get to choose a successor and was pushed aside after his two terms were up. I think TPTB were also pissed at him for not being able to push the TPP through, that was the #1 job they wanted him to do. Hillary was supposed to unite the party behind her but then she lost and threw them into total chaos and they tripled down on wokeism as a way to control the base.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

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This is the most embarrassing thing that I've ever seen in regards to a country leader. At least one in my lifetime.

 

[Oxous]

Paul Pelosi has been charged with DUI causing injury and DUI with .08% BAL or higher causing injury. Punishment if he's found guilty is either 5 years probation or 5 days in jail.

 

[LUNEKO]

Paul Pelosi has been charged with DUI causing injury and DUI with .08% BAL or higher causing injury. Punishment if he's found guilty is either 5 years probation or 5 days in jail.
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Didn't they throw this on the shreder? i thought he wasn't gonna get charged

 

[Oxous]

Didn't they throw this on the shreder? i thought he wasn't gonna get charged

Check probably bounced then. That happens a lot nowadays

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

Barack Obama was a lazy president. He was lazy in office, lazy at the DNC level and didn't really do anything to help the party and it lost about 1000 political seats. The weakness of the DNC is a huge part of how Donald Trump even ultimately won.

He's too self-absorbed to do anything tangible to help the party. It doesn't do any good to say, 'This isn't really Obama's fault that the DNC was taken over by the Clintons and turned into their slush fund." He was the president, TWICE, why did he let a cabinet member big-time him? Why'd he sulk and slink away to eat scooby snacks when the Clintonistas were tanking the party if he cared so much?

Right now the midterms look like they could be cataclysmic for the DNC and Barack Obama is doing the absolute bare minimum. You could even go so far as to say he's selling the Biden administration out. He did almost nothing to campaign for the Biden/Harris ticket and he's absentee again. He probably sees the Biden administration fucking up everything just like he knew it would and doesn't want the fail-stench to harm his legacy. How much do you think it chaps his egotistical ass when people call Joe Biden the third term of Obama?

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

The way they're acting, you'd think Ukraine was the 51st state.

Shit, I just gave them an idea...

I dont know... the Ukraine has 43 million people. More than Texas (30 million). I'm not interested in looking up California. No way even the RINOs would favor that.

 

[Standardized Profile]

Paul Pelosi has been charged with DUI causing injury and DUI with .08% BAL or higher causing injury. Punishment if he's found guilty is either 5 years probation or 5 days in jail.
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My prediction: He'll plea to DUI first and get a deferred adjudication. He'll sign in at DUI school, leave, pay court costs, and the charges will be dismissed.

 

[Snekposter]

I wonder how fast it falls apart for them. It might be as simple as "nobody can come to work anymore because the gas costs too much" and then the shocking realization that nobody is working from home either.

Not everything is about Hitler, but everything is about Hitler. And Hitler had the support of German industry. They understood that Hitler was going to allow them to make money. How long does it take before the people who took the ESG money and bought into the globalist plan realize they've been conned and they switch sides?

Funnily enough, Hitler backstabbed the industrialists. When his regime wasn't yanking all of the profits out of the Leune synthetics plant the Hermann Goering Werke was forcing suppliers to sell at cost or even below or face the wrath of Herr Hitler.

>implying they'd actually go after him that hard
The MAGA section of the party, yes. The RINOs? LOL. At best, they'll go after him for miniscule shit nobody gives AF about.

That's all it would take though. Those images would go viral, and at minimum the media would be forced to report on the rampant homophobia in them.

Even by Keith Olbermann standards this is great. Always remember that he quit his job at ESPN just so he could rage tweet all day.
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Wow. I had no idea Keith was a fan of the Andrew Jackson school of politics.

I know, I'm just pointing out libs like to say "hurrrr if you secede we'll march on the South again," when if you look at the composition of Sherman's army, just lmao libs.

Funnily enough his personal troops were volunteers from Alabama...

Lots of assumptions about the rural North East being made here which are hilariously incorrect.

And the rural parts of the West Coast states, too.

They blew it with Hillary. The party elders and the Clintons were SURE she was going to win and expected her to pick a successor. They were shocked when she got upended by a black guy in 2008 and again in 2016 with Orange Man. They put all their eggs in one basket and lost it all. The republicans have a much more organic succession plan. Its not perfect but superior to the democrat 'strategy'.

Its funny how holding a battle royale where everyone can toss their hat in pays off. "May the polls be ever in your favor."

 

[CarlosDanger]

Didn't they throw this on the shreder? i thought he wasn't gonna get charged

I thought so too but TMZ just broke this news 20 minutes ago.

 

[XYZpdq]

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Out of curiosity are there examples of other event cheat sheets for other presidents to compare it to?

 

[Cousin It]

Even by Keith Olbermann standards this is great. Always remember that he quit his job at ESPN just so he could rage tweet all day.
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So does that mean the states can also do the same thing with abortion and gay marriage?

Christ! How can he not even anticipate the most basic of counterarguments? Not even a slimy escape clause thrown in anywhere. I'm less insulted by this guy's take than I am by the fact that he's too lazy for even the basics of skeevy political punditry.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

Out of curiosity are there examples of other event cheat sheets for other presidents to compare it to?

I've never seen this in this format for anybody else. "YOU stand over here. YOU say exactly this to exactly this person at this exact time. YOU please try to not shit your pants again, WE would appreciate it. YOU exit the room this way because YOU need explanations that basic because YOU are a toddler in a business suit."

 

[XYZpdq]

I've never seen this in this format for anybody else. "YOU stand over here. YOU say exactly this to exactly this person at this exact time. YOU please try to not shit your pants again, WE would appreciate it. YOU exit the room this way because YOU need explanations that basic because YOU are a toddler in a business suit."

tbf I've never seen anybody's formats

 

[Thomas Talus]

Didn't they throw this on the shreder? i thought he wasn't gonna get charged

Someone was making that claim, but then the DA said that no charging decision had been made yet.

My prediction: He'll plea to DUI first and get a deferred adjudication. He'll sign in at DUI school, leave, pay court costs, and the charges will be dismissed.

I'm not going to speak about CA law specifically, but diversion is typically not available if the other person is injured, and it looks like he was charged with a DUI causing injury.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Did they blow it with Hillary though, or did they just not expect Obama to basically take over the party and then not give a shit when his own Presidency was over, leaving the DNC to pick up the pieces?

Obama got in despite Hillary's machinations.

I used to disagree on that front. Note used to.

The party having more control over its candidates makes sense to a degree. you d avoid a case where you get everyone free for alling eachother during a primary.

But yeah the clintons basically controlling the DNC and it being gutted back in 2016 caused alot of damage.

Kamala and crew were all diversity hires and all the somewhat able people have fled the shit show.

2016? That shit started all the way back in 2004 or 2006 - the midterms there are when any blue dog democrats started to slowly get the legs cut out from under them, and any newcomers they thought had traction epecially got shafted toi make way for Hillary. She wasn't expecting some upstart nigger from Chicago to fuck that up though.

There's no unified "they' on this one. The Obama faction are definitely frustrated he didn't do more to develop a successor, but he also had to deal with a DNC completely controlled by Hillary all of two years into his first term. The direction funds for prospective candidates went in a much more Clintonite direction than Obama cared for, but he couldn't fight it while also dealing with a Congress controlled by a GOP that was very much playing hardball with the Obama agenda.

Not absolving Obama of his choice to say fuck it and go play Hollywood, but part of the reason things are so deadlocked right now is that, to varying extents, both parties have been bitterly subverting politicians who aren't part of the post-1990 neoliberal/neoconservative Uniparty order for more than a decade now.

The Clintons never really let go of the DNC Iron Throne after they left which pissed off Obama a ton. Why else do you think he made Hillary his SoS?

They did expect Obama to take over the party. That's why Hillary and her allies worked overtime behind the scenes to blunt his influence. It wasn't too hard for them to do, given the fact that he transparently cared about nothing but his image and expected underlings to do all the hard work for him. That's why he didn't get to choose a successor and was pushed aside after his two terms were up. I think TPTB were also pissed at him for not being able to push the TPP through, that was the #1 job they wanted him to do. Hillary was supposed to unite the party behind her but then she lost and threw them into total chaos and they tripled down on wokeism as a way to control the base.

The Obamas really couldn't overcome the Clinton machine, as they are possibly the biggest backing behind the DNC wing of the Uniparty around. Thing is? People tend to like almost any other option they can get besides Hillary.

 

[The Nothingness]

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