US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Shitlibs trying to compare Trump's cue card for a meeting with Biden's card telling him to enter the room and to sit in his own chair.
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Very odd to compare tough situation like high school mass shootings that Trump had to deal with what Biden had to deal with. Considering that Biden’s own party is trying to rampantly use more gun control than even Trump could pull off, this just comes off as just petty, but at worse very insulting.

 

[make_it_so]

I would almost argue vapes have become much worse than cigarettes because since they're advertised as "healthier than cigarettes" or whatever we now have swaths of middle schoolers with crippling nicotine addictions. I shit you not last year at a local school they had to call ambulances for multiple kids they thought were dying because they bought cheap pods and whatever was in there put them into shock.

Wasn't there some study on the effects of vaping on people's lungs, and they were finding that the lungs of people that had vaped for 12 months looked like the lungs of someone who had smoked for 12 years or something like that?

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Wasn't there some study on the effects of vaping on people's lungs, and they were finding that the lungs of people that had vaped for 12 months looked like the lungs of someone who had smoked for 12 years or something like that?

I dunno, are they killing people that vaped for 12 months or smoked for 12 years exactly and then doing an autopsy on the people they killed? Seems like a sketchy study.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Wasn't there some study on the effects of vaping on people's lungs, and they were finding that the lungs of people that had vaped for 12 months looked like the lungs of someone who had smoked for 12 years or something like that?

I dunno about that, but seeing as how nicotine smoke is still entering the lungs, I don't see how anyone can think vaping is healthier.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

There's no unified "they' on this one. The Obama faction are definitely frustrated he didn't do more to develop a successor, but he also had to deal with a DNC completely controlled by Hillary all of two years into his first term. The direction funds for prospective candidates went in a much more Clintonite direction than Obama cared for, but he couldn't fight it while also dealing with a Congress controlled by a GOP that was very much playing hardball with the Obama agenda.

Not absolving Obama of his choice to say fuck it and go play Hollywood, but part of the reason things are so deadlocked right now is that, to varying extents, both parties have been bitterly subverting politicians who aren't part of the post-1990 neoliberal/neoconservative Uniparty order for more than a decade now.

Oh there is a "they" the "they" in question just fucking loathe each other.

Hillary was absolutely assmad that "HER TURN" was stolen by Obama, but was forced into the backroom deal so that the Democrats could have "THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" and was promised that as soon as he had his 2 terms that "HER TURN" would be handed to her on a silver platter so that she didn't Destroy the King of the CornPops.

Then it turned out Hillary is in fact awful enough at politics that she can lose to Donald Trump.

 

[elite_club]

nicotine smoke

Nicotine by itself, is not a carcinogen. It is certainly addictive, and works well as a pesticide, but both of those statements are also true of caffeine. The difference being, you don't light ground coffee on fire to get a caffeine fix. For the same reason, things like nicotine patches, gums, lozenges, as well as vaping, do not lead to the development of cancers. Studies that showed e-cigarette use as releasing carcinogens used e-cigarettes which were set to maximum power output and then ran for 30 second durations until wicks were completely dried, which is nothing at all like how an e-cigarette would be used to begin with.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The Senate passed the gun control bill with a 65 to 35 margin.

 

[DaBigBopper]

Shitlibs trying to compare Trump's cue card for a meeting with Biden's card telling him to enter the room and to sit in his own chair.
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This just seems like any notes you keep when talking about something important. It's basically just keeping you on track and how to keep their attention. Yeah, the "I hear you" sounds fake as fuck, but generally I use shorthand notes when presenting on a topic to keep me on the right path. A full fucking script is terrible, that's what Biden's is, Trump's is just a conversation guide. It's reminding him to ask them what they think he should do, how they feel, and that he's listening. Biden is literally walk in, sit down, ask certain person question, and leave.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

>45 on the shirt cuff

Yeah calling him by just a number turned out to backfire, since that makes people look cool and mysterious.

He's certainly not the only one.

 

[The Ugly One]

Part of my job involves talking to people who have been through traumatic experiences. In some cases, they've lost everything. Imagine how you would try to begin that conversation. What can you say in the face of the unimaginable? A lot of people I worked with, hell, I locked up. Just couldn't think of anything to say. It helped to have a template that you could at least draw inspiration from, questions that had worked in the past and was a lot more sympathetic than blurting out "damn, your shit got fucked" or something like that. It really helped me, I can say that for sure, and it helped the people I worked with.

It's disingenuous to compare this to Biden's card, and also disingenuous to say that it "appeared to be a reminder for him to show empathy." I think it's more a sign of humility and putting their wellbeing above your self image to have something like that and use it. Because it's not about you. It's about them.

The cue card helped Biden show empathy for people who don't know how to sit in chairs.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

The Senate passed the gun control bill with a 65 to 35 margin.

Article: https://longisland.news12.com/senate-oks-landmark-gun-violence-bill-house-passage-is-next
Archive: https://archive.ph/fWrH6

The Senate on Thursday easily approved a bipartisan gun violence bill that seemed unthinkable just a month ago, clearing the way for final congressional approval of what will be lawmakers' most far-reaching response in decades to the nation's run of brutal mass shootings.

After years of GOP procedural delays that derailed Democratic efforts to curb firearms, Democrats and some Republicans decided that congressional inaction was untenable after last month’s rampages in New York and Texas. It took weeks of closed-door talks but a group of senators from both parties emerged with a compromise embodying incremental but impactful movement to curb bloodshed that has come to regularly shock - yet no longer surprise - the nation.

The $13 billion measure would toughen background checks for the youngest gun buyers, keep firearms from more domestic violence offenders and help states put in place red flag laws that make it easier for authorities to take weapons from people adjudged dangerous. It would also fund local programs for school safety, mental health and violence prevention.

The election-year package fell far short of more robust gun restrictions Democrats have sought for years, including bans on the assault-type weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines used in the slayings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas. Yet the accord let leaders of both parties declare victory and demonstrate to voters that they know how to compromise and make government work, while also leaving room for each side to appeal to its core supporters.

“This is not a cure-all for the all the ways gun violence affects our nation,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., whose party has made gun restrictions a goal for decades. “But it is a long overdue step in the right direction. Passing this gun safety bill is truly significant, and it’s going to save lives.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., in a nod to the Second Amendment right to bear arms that drives many conservative voters, said “the American people want their constitutional rights protected and their kids to be safe in school.” He said “they want both of those things at once, and that is just what the bill before the Senate will have accomplished.”

The day proved bittersweet for advocates of curtailing gun violence. Underscoring the enduring potency of conservative cIout, the right-leaning Supreme Court issued a decision expanding the right of Americans to carry arms in public. The justices struck down a New York law that has required people to prove a need for carrying a weapon before they get a license to do so.

The vote on final passage was 65-33.

Hours earlier, senators voted 65-34 to end a filibuster by conservative GOP senators. That was five more than the 60-vote threshold needed. The House planned to vote on the measure Friday and approval seemed certain.
On that vote, 15 Senate Republicans joined all 50 Democrats, including their two allied independents, in voting to move ahead on the legislation.

Yet that vote highlighted the risks Republicans face by defying the party's pro-gun voters and firearms groups like the National Rifle Association. Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Todd Young of Indiana were the only two of the 15 up for reelection this fall. Of the rest, four are retiring and eight don't face voters until 2026.

Tellingly, GOP senators voting “no” included potential 2024 presidential contenders like Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Ted Cruz of Texas, Josh Hawley of Missouri and Tim Scott of South Carolina. Some of the party's most conservative members voted “no” as well, including Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Mike Lee of Utah.

While the Senate measure was a clear breakthrough, the outlook for continued congressional movement on gun curbs is dim.

Less than one-third of the Senate's 50 GOP senators backed the measure and solid Republican opposition is certain in the House. Top House Republicans urged a “no” vote in an email from the No. 2 GOP leader, Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, that called the bill “an effort to slowly chip away at law-abiding citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights.”

Both chambers - now narrowly controlled by Democrats - could well be run by the GOP after November's midterm elections.

In a statement, President Joe Biden said Uvalde residents told him when he visited that Washington had to act. “Our kids in schools and our communities will be safer because of this legislation. I call on Congress to finish the job and get this bill to my desk,” Biden said.

Senate action came one month after a gunman killed 19 students and two teachers in Uvalde. Just days before that, a white man was accused of being motivated by racism as he killed 10 Black grocery shoppers in Buffalo. Both shooters were 18 years old, a youthful profile shared by many mass shooters, and the close timing of the two slaughters and victims with whom many could identify stirred a demand by voters for action, lawmakers of both parties said.

The talks were led by Sens. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Thom Tillis, R-N.C. Murphy represented Newtown, Connecticut, when an assailant killed 20 students and six staffers at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, while Cornyn has been involved in past gun talks following mass shootings in his state and is close to McConnell.

Murphy said the measure would save thousands of lives and was a chance to “prove to a weary American public that democracy is not so broken that it is unable to rise to the moment.”

“I don't believe in doing nothing in the face of what we saw in Uvalde” and elsewhere, Cornyn said.

The bill would make the local juvenile records of people age 18 to 20 available during required federal background checks when they attempt to buy guns. Those examinations, currently limited to three days, would last up to a maximum of 10 days to give federal and local officials time to search records.

People convicted of domestic abuse who are current or former romantic partners of the victim would be prohibited from acquiring firearms, closing the so-called “boyfriend loophole."

That ban currently only applies to people married to, living with or who have had children with the victim. The compromise bill would extend that to those considered to have had “a continuing serious relationship."

There would be money to help states enforce red flag laws and for other states without them that for violence prevention programs. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia have such laws.

The measure expands the use of background checks by rewriting the definition of the federally licensed gun dealers required to conduct them. Penalties for gun trafficking are strengthened, billions of dollars are provided for behavioral health clinics and school mental health programs and there's money for school safety initiatives, though not for personnel to use a “dangerous weapon."

 

[Sithis]

>45 on the shirt cuff

Yeah calling him by just a number turned out to backfire, since that makes people look cool and mysterious.

It's getting to the point where even their replacement insult of "former guy/last guy" is an oof thing to say because all it does is remind people that things have become so much worse since "the last guy". It outright declares that things have changed, and since things have changed for the absolute worse for most people, that's not exactly the epic insult to Trump they think it is.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

That "gun control" bill is an absolute abomination but certain to pass. Fucking Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory perhaps deliberately, yet again, what else is new?

 

[make_it_so]

Fuck Cornyn. Next primary season, I'm voting for his challenger - any challenger - and if he still wins the primary I'm either voting third-party or leaving his spot blank.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Fuck Cornyn. Next primary season, I'm voting for his challenger - any challenger - and if he still wins the primary I'm either voting third-party or leaving his spot blank.

Cornyn isn't scared of primaries; he's likely gonna retire 2026. However, he's fucking Texans in the ass (of all ages this time) until then.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

Fuck Cornyn. Next primary season, I'm voting for his challenger - any challenger - and if he still wins the primary I'm either voting third-party or leaving his spot blank.

You could always just gather some people, kidnap him, then tar, feather, and send him out of town on a rail.

 

[make_it_so]

You could always just gather some people, kidnap him, then tar, feather, and send him out of town on a rail.

 

[DaBigBopper]

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Tarring and feathering of politicians in the US is an honored past time.

 

[Gehenna]

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Just own up to it you old fuck.

This was by design and because you couldn't grab power by changing voting laws to let 2020 happen forever, you had to start backpeddling to hopefully not get destroyed to keep your Senate Majority so that you could push it down the line. Now that you realize the strategy of "making things we hate like transportation unaffordable to virtually ban it" is immensely unpopular, you have to shift blame on Putler or scream "Buy a Tesla" like its the fix.

This was your goal, this is your fault, and you are the most unpopular president since first term Truman because of it.
Own it, faggot.

They were this close to being able to federalize elections and make their cheating permanent. That more than anything must chap their asses.

There are only two arguments here, and they both aren't great:
1. The president is so demented he needs cards to remember what he is doing at all times.
2. The president is such a stupid puppet that he needs cards to complete day to day activities.

I'm going with C, all of the above, as 2 is just a byproduct of 1.

And the grand prize is that we are screwed as the question remains: who the fuck is running the country?

Nobody, at this point nobody. The only unifying person in it was Ron Klain and while he is officially still in, he is going to be out by years end.

The Senate passed the gun control bill with a 65 to 35 margin.

Assuming it was the one linked earlier... its actually a net positive. It does absolutely jack and shit to actually control guns, defines a bunch of terms the ATF were using to get whoever they wanted, and actually provides for mental health.


Assuming nothing got snuck in that is.


But assuming that, its hilariously misnamed as an anti-gun bill.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Even Hawai'i's lawmakers, despite how the state is so blue that it can blend in with the large ass amount of sea water surrounding it, are not buying Biden's gas tax holiday proposal at all. And this is coming from a State that is used to having high ass gas prices, and a high cost-of-living in general.