Serious LGBT Discussion

[gang weeder]

A human being born with female genetalia and XX chromosomes. Ask me something hard.

So then you agree that leftie transgender ideology = erasure of women?

 

[Noir drag freak]

Sorry, but from the surface it's become the Gay Rich Boys' and Their Ladyboys' Rainbow Club. Plenty of Queer dudes have blind spots when it comes to discrimination outside of what privileged queer men experience. They want total power and control, over politics, entertainment, culture, media--- they want to dictate societal norms, they want to crush women into the dust and make us disappear, they want to take children and groom them. It's not even a conspiracy theory any more-- they literally admit to it, albeit in "woke speak". All the major corporations are shilling for GAY GAY GAY men and their troon tranny transwomen counterparts. That's because there are a lot of QUEER men in positions of corporate influence (especially in TECH/medicine) and who have large amounts of money and political pull. Money is power. Money talks. The rich queer men who want to make force their kinky anal-cowboy trannygirl kiddie diddling lifestyles into everyone else's face are the ones in power. It's a power trip for them to force us into participating in their fetishes without anyone else's consent, and they'll change the laws in order to force us to comply... because they can.

Their actions say everything. Where are the lumberjack dykes reading books to children? Nowhere-- because it's a GAY GAY GAY man's kink movement-- gay kinky men are the only ones meant to benefit-- it's THEIR specific lifestyle being placed on a pedestal. Gay drag hags are the only ones being paid to read GAY GAY GAY kiddie grooming books to kids, not dykes or lipstick lesbians. It's an MRA movement hiding behind rainbows.

There are a ton of sociopathic millionaire and billionaire Queers using it as a Trojan horse to push social engineering, techno-fascism and the normalization of pedohphilia on humanity.

I doubt that. For one thing, most wealthy and upper class people are elitist and exclusive as hell. The upper-middle class may appear to be tolerant, but they can be just as classism, racist and every other thing. My motto is that the middle class can’t do homosexuality very well.

 

[Kenya Jones]

Troonism is big business. Hormones and other medications for life + expensive surgeries? Lotta dollars to be made.

That's why people take years to even get seen by a doctor, right? So long that people many times buy off of the grey market.

Leftos want me to be a "womb haver" to provide surrogacy services for fags and troons, and want to encourage "sex work is work". I've also noticed that a lot of lefty organizations have a tendency to push the idea of women being cheap caretakers and in low-paying caretaking professions. They also want us to be handmaidens with no rights, or replaced by sex robots.
To me, eradicating women in language and allowing delusional men into our spaces is tantamount to legalized rape. In other countries, women are charged with "hate crimes" for telling cross-dressing perverts off.
It's the same shit, but the transhumanist leftists want to push it further, and under the guise of rainbows. At least the right wing weirdos don't want to troon out my child or turn him out and into a drag queen.

So who just made abortions no longer a right, was it those libtards, or was it the conservatives?

I find it ironic that you are claiming me to not have an attention span, but still manage to post your bs. Yes, I'm not going to read long comments by you. Call it a defence mechanism against bs.

No, you just don't want to to see anything that shows you're wrong, so you close your eyes and cover your eyes like a child.

That aside, you're talking about a medical/scientific community bought out by dirty capitalists who make a killing off of getting people dependent on the medical industrial complex for life. I thought most troons hated capitalism.

They're not making much money seeing as so many get their hormones from the grey market.

And you're the one accusing people of glowing here?

Wanting people to have equal rights means you are a CIA nigger, gotcha.

Parents are being investigated for being complicit in the grooming, abuse, and mutilation of their children. Boo fucking hoo.

>Making peoples lives better is grooming
Do you live in opposite world?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Wanting people to have equal rights means you are a CIA nigger, gotcha.

Lying about black people not having equal voting rights, just because we want to stop voter fraud.

>Making peoples lives better is grooming
Do you live in opposite world?

If your idea of "making people's lives better" involves chemical castration, physical mutilation, and playing along with the fever dreams of a confused adolescent who can't even consent to things like sexual intercourse or getting a driver's license, I don't want to know what "fucking people's lives up" means to you.

Do we need to check your hard drive, groomer?

 

[Kenya Jones]

Lying about black people not having equal voting rights might.

You do realize that in only one of the presidential elections in like the lest 30 years has a republican won the popular vote, most of the time when they did win, it all came down to the electoral college and gerrymandering. You are giving less people more power.

If your idea of "making people's lives better" involves chemical castration, physical mutilation, and playing along with the fever dreams of a confused adolescent, I don't want to know what "fucking people's lives up" means to you.

"a confused adolescent" yeah why is it that a large majority of trans teens do not desist? Why would the possibility (yes, possibility) of castration and surgery help people? I have many times posted studies about this, they all come to the same conclusion. You are doing the same as Vingle and closing your eyes and covering your ears because you don't want to find out you're wrong.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

You do realize that in only one of the presidential elections in like the lest 30 years has a republican won the popular vote, most of the time when they did win, it all came down to the electoral college and gerrymandering. You are giving less people more power.

The electoral college doing its job and providing a check/balance against mob rule.

When are you going to stop whining about non-issues?

"a confused adolescent" yeah why is it that a large majority of trans teens do not desist? Why would the possibility (yes, possibility) of castration and surgery help people? I have many times posted studies about this, they all come to the same conclusion. You are doing the same as Vingle and closing your eyes and covering your ears because you don't want to find out you're wrong.

Only a majority of teens that are put on puberty blockers don't desist.

A majority of teens that are not given puberty blockers do.

It's almost as if refusing to validate the fantasies of mentally sick people does far more long term good than you want to admit.

That aside....

If it really is going to kill troons like yourself to not groom, mutilate, or even outright sexual molest minors, I suggest you neck yourself.

 

[gang weeder]

"a confused adolescent" yeah why is it that a large majority of trans teens do not desist? Why would the possibility (yes, possibility) of castration and surgery help people? I have many times posted studies about this, they all come to the same conclusion. You are doing the same as Vingle and closing your eyes and covering your ears because you don't want to find out you're wrong.

Sunk cost fallacy. Literally that simple. Well maybe not quite that simple, but close to it. Most young trans actually do desist if they never begin hormones or undergo surgery. However, if they start with the hormones and/or pursue surgery, desistance becomes far less likely. You could argue there's a lot of endogeneity there, but either way, it's dishonest to blanket state "majority of trans teens do not desist" and then assume causality based on your preferred assumptions of why that is.

The electoral college doing its job and providing a check/balance against mob rule.

When are you going to stop whining about non-issues?



Only a majority of teens that are put on puberty blockers don't desist.

A majority of teens that are not given puberty blockers do.

It's almost as if refusing to validate the fantasies of mentally sick people does far more long term good than you want to admit.

That aside....

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If it really is going to kill troons like yourself to not groom, mutilate, or even outright sexual molest minors, I suggest you neck yourself.

It is funny how the "stoodies say" types don't seem to care that all their precious heckin' stoodies said the complete opposite until very recently.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It is funny how the "stoodies say" types don't seem to care that all their precious heckin' stoodies said the complete opposite until very recently.

This Kenya Jones troon is like Jacob Blows-teen in the sense that it is religiously devoted to defending the absolute worst that leftism or troonism has to offer.

Like it'll fucking die if it doesn't.

 

[gang weeder]

This Kenya Jones troon is like Jacob Blows-teen in the sense that it is religiously devoted to defending the absolute worst that leftism or troonism has to offer.

Like it'll fucking die if it doesn't.

Well yes, given he (I'm assuming he) is trans, he has a big personal stake in these issues and pretty much has to believe in the ideology or else de-troon. I don't know why he is bothering to try and do it on this site, though. He must know he's not going to get much sympathy here.

 

[Kenya Jones]

The electoral college doing its job and providing a check/balance against mob rule.

When are you going to stop whining about non-issues?

>Mob rule
Just say it, just say you do not want black people to have rights, because that is what you are advocating for.

Only a majority of teens that are put on puberty blockers don't desist.

A vast majority, not just a majority.

A majority of teens that are not given puberty blockers do.

Source?

It's almost as if refusing to validate the fantasies of mentally sick people does far more long term good than you want to admit.

Once again, source? I've posted plenty in this thread and never has anyone given sources to their claims.

If it really is going to kill troons like yourself to not groom, mutilate, or even outright sexual molest minors, I suggest you neck yourself.

You make shit up again, very funny.

Sunk cost fallacy. Literally that simple. Well maybe not quite that simple, but close to it. Most young trans actually do desist if they never begin hormones or undergo surgery.

You two seem to be referencing the same thing here, can I see it?

It is funny how the "stoodies say" types don't seem to care that all their precious heckin' stoodies said the complete opposite until very recently.

"Until very recently" This stuff has been studied for maybe 40 years, and 30 of those they have been agreeing with us.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

>Mob rule
Just say it, just say you do not want black people to have rights, because that is what you are advocating for.

How exactly are we barring black people from voting by implementing anti-fraud measures?

Once again, source? I've posted plenty in this thread and never has anyone given sources to their claims.

Your asshole/stinkditch does not count as a source.

You make shit up again, very funny.

You wouldn't have any stake in this if you weren't a closeted pedo.

Even if mentally ill people had the capacity to consent to such medical malpractice, it's not going to fucking kill them to wait until adulthood to ruin their lives.

 

[Vingle]

It has begun @Kenya Jones.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/at-lea...ing-at-a-gay-nightclub-in-oslo-norway.122620/

You can sperg all you want, but the progress has begun. Norway is one of the most peaceful countries, so this is saying a lot.

 

[Wych Elm]

I miss when this thread was used for discussion and civil debate about books, media, worries, and expectations about LGBT life by fairly chill LGBs.

 

[Heckler1]

I think there are people with genuine gender dysphoria who will live better lives by taking medicines and physically resembling how they feel. It is unfortunate that the ability to more easily look how they feel, coincided with the rise of the progressive stack and widespread liberal acceptance of modern gender theory (fruit of the poison tree imo). So people became transtrenders, hoping to leech away at some of this newfound social empathy/attention, which led confused young people to start thinking this was the solution to their unhappiness. This increased visibility leads to parents who want some of that social credit to see signs their child is trans (when the signs aren't their). I think the people being harmed most by this huge push in Transgenderism is actual real Trans people being buried under a flood of troons and confused kids.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I think there are people with genuine gender dysphoria who will live better lives by taking medicines and physically resembling how they feel. It is unfortunate that the ability to more easily look how they feel, coincided with the rise of the progressive stack and widespread liberal acceptance of modern gender theory (fruit of the poison tree imo). So people became transtrenders, hoping to leech away at some of this newfound social empathy/attention, which led confused young people to start thinking this was the solution to their unhappiness. This increased visibility leads to parents who want some of that social credit to see signs their child is trans (when the signs aren't their). I think the people being harmed most by this huge push in Transgenderism is actual real Trans people being buried under a flood of troons and confused kids.

But that makes no sense, person.

What the heck is it supposed to mean to "look how [you] feel"? How do you feel an appearance? That's crazy, at least personally I'm unaware of how I look unless I'm in front of a mirror, because I'm not on a fucking catwalk. That's especially true because there are tons of subtle nuances to how people behave that make worlds of difference as to how people perceive them.

The entire idea of transexuality is an absurd premise founded on a toxic mentality founded on an unhealthy mental state. They fetishize their bodies and appearance as objects of control, rather than simply tools through which they interact with and exert themselves upon the world around them.

You cannot medically be a learned cultural concept, and the way to treat transexualism is through providing opportunities for role fulfillment, not through pumping people full of hormones, butchering them, and telling them to wear a dress.
The latter will provide momentary relief of their symptoms at best, at severe cost in the long term.

The trans individuals who seem to do best in the long run are HSTS like Blaire White who transition in large part because of their desire to have relationships with straight-ish men who'd be unlikely to be involved with them if they looked more masculine.

 

[Heckler1]

But that makes no sense, person.

What the heck is it supposed to mean to "look how [you] feel"? How do you feel an appearance? That's crazy, at least personally I'm unaware of how I look unless I'm in front of a mirror, because I'm not on a fucking catwalk. That's especially true because there are tons of subtle nuances to how people behave that make worlds of difference as to how people perceive them.

The entire idea of transexuality is an absurd premise founded on a toxic mentality founded on an unhealthy mental state. They fetishize their bodies and appearance as objects of control, rather than simply tools through which they interact with and exert themselves upon the world around them.

You cannot medically be a learned cultural concept, and the way to treat transexualism is through providing opportunities for role fulfillment, not through pumping people full of hormones, butchering them, and telling them to wear a dress.
The latter will provide momentary relief of their symptoms at best, at severe cost in the long term.

The trans individuals who seem to do best in the long run are HSTS like Blaire White who transition in large part because of their desire to have relationships with straight-ish men who'd be unlikely to be involved with them if they looked more masculine.

Because it is a mental illness. A mental illness that became trendy to imitate for progressive asspats/or as a possible solution to your problems. I think the actual percentage of people with true gender dysphoria is quite small, but due to the wide umbrella that is "dysphoria" in general, a lot of people (I think) are unhappy with themselves and look no further than the current gender trends as to why.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Because it is a mental illness. A mental illness that became trendy to imitate for progressive asspats/or as a possible solution to your problems. I think the actual percentage of people with true gender dysphoria is quite small, but due to the wide umbrella that is "dysphoria" in general, a lot of people (I think) are unhappy with themselves and look no further than the current gender trends as to why.

I don't think even those with "true" gender dysphoria should be validated.

How do you determine what is "valid" and not?

And even in the case of "valid" gender dysphoria, how is it not just as valid as someone who is every bit as adamant that they are actually a wolf trapped in a human's body?

We need to treat the mental illness, not mutilate the body to match their self perception.

 

[Heckler1]

I don't think even those with "true" gender dysphoria should be validated.

How do you determine what is "valid" and not?

And even in the case of "valid" gender dysphoria, how is it not just as valid as someone who is every bit as adamant that they are actually a wolf trapped in a human's body?

We need to treat the mental illness, not mutilate the body to match their self perception.

Once you have a medical diagnosis after having eliminated the other comorbid possibilities. I think there are plenty of things you can do before you have to start hacking off penors and ladybits. I'd go with a DSM type diagnosis coupled with medical practitioners standing their ground and not kowtowing to mentally ill people demanding the most extreme fixes. I think this will also stop the brutal culling of twinks and tomboys that is currently going on.

 

[Kenya Jones]

It has begun @Kenya Jones.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/at-lea...ing-at-a-gay-nightclub-in-oslo-norway.122620/

You can sperg all you want, but the progress has begun. Norway is one of the most peaceful countries, so this is saying a lot.

>A country full of muslims gets shot up by an Iranian
Truly shocking, I'm surprised he didn't do an Anders Breivik and shoot up a mosque.

How exactly are we barring black people from voting by implementing anti-fraud measures?

It's not anti-fraud, it's pro-gerrymandering, you fucking moron.

Your asshole/stinkditch does not count as a source.

If you don't want to give sources to your claims then why are you here? This is the serious LGBT discussions thread, not the I hate LGBT people circlejerk.

Even if mentally ill people had the capacity to consent to such medical malpractice, it's not going to fucking kill them to wait until adulthood to ruin their lives.

It literally does though.

You wouldn't have any stake in this if you weren't a closeted pedo.

Stop projecting it's too obvious you're too dumb to be into adults.

 

[Vingle]

>A country full of muslims gets shot up by an Iranian
Truly shocking, I'm surprised he didn't do an Anders Breivik and shoot up a mosque.

Uhm... What are you talking about? I'm Norwegian and do live in Oslo. It's right there are plenty of muslims here, but they and the mosques are mostly in the bad parts of town.
When shitskins do shootings, it's because they're against the western lifestyle. If Norway were under Sharia law, I'm sure they would be perfectly happy.

The 2 that were shot dead, were in their 50-60. So it's like, they don't even count. Their life was mostly over. The wounded people, no life threatening wounds.
Good riddance, if you're going to shoot. At least do it right.

Edit: It isn't official if he did it to kill the gays, because he started shooting at a non-gay bar. As usual, the gays and their fucking victim complex.