Elaine April Gertler-Miller / Elaine Georgie Gertler-Miller / Elaine Miller / Trollcow / "Pissminge" / Z3R6 / Echo - Pisswhore, liar, future fed, faildoxxer, swatter, Imageboard apostate, sektur bicycle, sock enthusiast, linked her nudes to a 14 year old, cut "Josh Moon" into her thighs, genuine cautionary tale about wanting Internet fame, Torswats orbiter, drug addict

[TayandYou]

Logging off is not your decision and I will not curb my liberty because anyone told me to. Why should I give up my freedom because people can’t see through some douche with access to money and photoshopping tools? The Internet or trolls or this forum isn’t the problem. Crazed simpy men who want to ruin women’s lives are, and that won’t stop with me logging off. That just tells men they can do this kind of shit to women to drive them offline. I won’t be told what to do. This won’t affect me because as stated, it has nothing to do with me. I’m not pretending it did as that would be unfair to me when I’ve stayed clean and would never send such content.

"True lolcows reject advice."
I guess the saying was true after all.

Good luck in your future endeavors Elaine. Don't blame us when things spiral even further out of control.

 

[Elaine Miller]

True lolcows

I’m not rejecting advice but I also don’t really feel like it’s smart to let people online dictate my liberty and drive me away through threats and doctored content. I’ve read all of the concerns and taken them in. But this is more about who’s responsible and less about me. Redirect your focus. This isn’t a me problem. Anyway the police have launched an investigation into the source of the images and videos and the people involved. Eventually we will know I guess. For now, don’t direct this shit at me, it’s not my problem and not me and I want nothing to do with it. Try not to sperg too hard in the mean time.

 

[TayandYou]

But this is more about who’s responsible and less about me. Redirect your focus. This isn’t a me problem.

Obviously some sicko manipulated either you or some other girl into self-harm, but you're not helping things by continuously getting involved.

For now, don’t direct this shit at me, it’s not my problem and not me and I want nothing to do with it.

Good, then please stop involving yourself in this and just ignore it for now.

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

Obviously some sicko manipulated either you or some other girl into self-harm, but you're not helping things by continuously getting involved.

Yeah, for how badly she's reacted to it, this is actually really fucked up.

 

[TayandYou]

Yeah, for how badly she's reacted to it, this is actually really fucked up.

Yeah I know it's funny to see Elaine desperately denying the video and coming up with improbable tales, but the root cause of the incident (the cutting video) is very fucked up.

Real or fake, somebody has manipulated a woman into carving Josh's name into herself, and that same somebody dislikes Elaine enough to either manipulate her into self harm or somehow stage an elaborate conspiracy to frame her for it by manipulating somebody else into self harm.

The smart thing to do would be to log off regardless of the identity of the girl in the video for her own safety, at least until she knows who's behind it.

 

[Symalsa]

I think this speaks for itself.

Spoiler: nsfw gore

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Finally, some good fucking content

 

[Elaine Miller]

Yeah I know it's funny to see Elaine desperately denying the video and coming up with improbable tales, but the root cause of the incident (the cutting video) is very fucked up.

Real or fake, somebody has manipulated a woman into carving Josh's name into herself, and that same somebody dislikes Elaine enough to either manipulate her into self harm or somehow stage an elaborate conspiracy to frame her for it by manipulating somebody else into self harm.

The smart thing to do would be to log off regardless of the identity of the girl in the video for her own safety, at least until she knows who's behind it.

There’s also the chance of it being a fake limb, special fx or an edited video. Why do we still think there’s a real girl behind it? I don’t think there’s even a legitimate person. Even so, there’s no evidence the video is real blood. And if real she was probably paid to do it so wouldn’t feel too sorry for her.

Good, then please stop involving yourself in this and just ignore it for now.

Thank you. I don’t really want to talk about this idiocy any further. What can I say that wasn’t already said. Still, I hope there’s a positive outcome for everyone involved I guess?

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

There’s also the chance of it being a fake limb, special fx or an edited video. Why do we still think there’s a real girl behind it? I don’t think there’s even a legitimate person. Even so, there’s no evidence the video is real blood. And if real she was probably paid to do it so wouldn’t feel too sorry for her.

I think the part I emphasised there is a glimmer of the truth.

A - someone paid her to do it. Hence her talking about knowledge of people paying to do things earlier in the thread.

B - she doesn't think cutting is a big deal, because she is a cutter. And would likely enjoy doing it for money.

Really Elaine, if either of those things are true, seek help. Cutting can go on for years if you don't sort it now.

 

[Maskull]

I don’t really want to talk about this idiocy any further.

Okay. Then log off and go outside.

 

[TayandYou]

There’s also the chance of it being a fake limb, special fx or an edited video. Why do we still think there’s a real girl behind it? I don’t think there’s even a legitimate person. Even so, there’s no evidence the video is real blood. And if real she was probably paid to do it so wouldn’t feel too sorry for her.

Does it matter? Hypothetically if somebody hated you enough to go through extraordinary lengths to frame you for this, would it not be wise to err on the side of caution and assume the worst?

 

[Elaine Miller]

Does it matter? Hypothetically if somebody hated you enough to go through extraordinary lengths to frame you for this, would it not be wise to err on the side of caution and assume the worst?

Fear is a sickness. I won’t be bullied into leaving the Internet or giving up my freedom or ability to express myself. That would be worse than anything this person could do to me. They can frame me all they want. I know the truth, so do the police, and all the relevant people.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

The feet in the video could have been edited, or maybe it looked like that due to the way she was standing. My toe isn’t usually bent but I know the angle I was standing at didn’t help?

There was someone blackmailing me about releasing “deep fakes” if I didn’t send actual nudes which I never sent.

I’ve actually figured out that some of these were only fans commissions.

You have changed your story multiple times now. Get your story straight.
First you said someone searched the internet looking for the perfect feet. Now you're saying someone took the time to edit the feet.

What do you think actually happened?

My best guess is anuscabbage12 or Nohull/Yeshull (from the splinter). I think they used only fans commission to pay for some of the videos and photos. That’s my best guess. If it was actually me I probably would have just logged off in shame but I’m not getting my knickers in a twist over someone who is trying to make me mad with this shit anyway. (I also look down on women who send nudes hence why I haven’t and wouldn’t.) actually. Yeshull did say something about deepfakes before in my thread over there months ago

So now your cat fish friend is now anuscabbage or Yeshull?

So you're telling me someone found a whore on only fans that had your same build and was willing to carve their thighs, edited the face, and also somehow edited her feet.

Stick to a story you demented creature.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

There have been so many times where something that’s seemed insane and impossible has been true.

OK, name three.

I have been the victim of impersonated rp before.

This reminds me...
Would you be a sweetheart and somehow verify this account? All we have is your word and pictures that were posted in other places before you posted them here.

This kind of stuff is repulsive, and it’s damaging because people will use doctored content to try to ruin or negatively impact someone else’s life, but EVEN if something looks really really legit, there is the chance that it is not, and you should be taking this into account.

Elaine (if you are Elaine)... You post on forums that some people believe to be nests of murderers and pedophiles under your real name. You associate with deranged individuals like Mike Thurlow. You were banned from here for posting very questionable porn. Having your nudes out there is far from the most damaging things that happened to you.

That I can appreciate, he's an abject failure in life but he somehow ends up in the center of gayops anyway. People think he's some master manipulator but he just targets vulnerable women with pre-existing issues.

True, he specializes in manipulating intellectually deficient or mentally ill individuals - not only women, Hamburger Chef Ken gave him global mod status on his site. And Mike isn't entirely inept in this regard, he managed to trick some regular users into doxing themselves.

Crazed simpy men who want to ruin women’s lives are, and that won’t stop with me logging off.

Simp means: Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy. Sexually frustrated faggots who enjoy hurting women are called incels or supporters of Nick Fuentes.

Anyway the police have launched an investigation into the source of the images and videos and the people involved. Eventually we will know I guess.

OK, let me propose another deal if you refuse to take the image editing one. If you provide me with a proof of someone being arrested for it (by "it" I mean doctoring pictures and videos, not leaking real ones) I'll apologize and never doubt you again.

 

[Elaine Miller]

You have changed your story multiple times now. Get your story straight.
First you said someone searched the internet looking for the perfect feet. Now you're saying someone took the time to edit the feet.

What do you think actually happened?


So now your cat fish friend is now anuscabbage or Yeshull?

So you're telling me someone found a whore on only fans that had your same build and was willing to carve their thighs, edited the face, and also somehow edited her feet.

Stick to a story you demented creature.

Stop getting so angry at weirdos on the Internet. Obviously if I knew how they did it I’d be at their house with my entire legal team by now.

If you provide me with a proof of someone being arrested for it (by "it" I mean doctoring pictures and videos, not leaking real ones) I'll apologize and never doubt you again.

Ok this sounds like less effort. But once again I can’t really boss around law enforcement but there’s a high chance someone will be held responsible and if so, I’ll release that as soon as I get it.

This is actually not as far fetched as you think. There’s extortion groups I’m aware of that often pay girls to cut names into themselves. These people exist all over telegram , 764 is one group that does this, Lapsus$ is another. Any of the girls from these groups could have done it. Anyone who knows about the gross things on the Internet would know that in gangs like those, finding cutters is easier than anything.

 

[TayandYou]

True, he specializes in manipulating intellectually deficient or mentally ill individuals - not only women, Hamburger Chef Ken gave him global mod status on his site. And Mike isn't entirely inept in this regard, he managed to trick some regular users into doxing themselves.

Exactly, this shit seems like the exact type of shit Mike Thurlow does, social engineer his way into gaining the trust of lolcows/KF users, then leaking compromising content. And it's especially suspicious since it has been confirmed that they have been associating with each other as of late.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

Stop getting so angry at weirdos on the Internet.

Pointing out your stupid lies and laughing at you fumble and bumble to explain something away in more and more idiotic ways =/= angry.

I just think you're funny.

Obviously if I knew how they did it I’d be at their house with my entire legal team by now.

You have an entire legal team now? Why would your supposed legal team allow you to fuck up your story multiple times and ruin your potential case?

Are they as stupid as you?

This is actually not as far fetched as you think. There’s extortion groups I’m aware of that often pay girls to cut names into themselves. These people exist all over telegram , 764 is one group that does this, Lapsus$ is another. Any of the girls from these groups could have done it. Anyone who knows about the gross things on the Internet would know that in gangs like those, finding cutters is easier than anything.

You idiot, you forgot about what your catfish friend said yet again. He said he got the videos from an escort site. He didn't say telegram.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Fear is a sickness.

Fear is an advisor that keeps you alive.

Ok this sounds like less effort. But once again I can’t really boss around law enforcement but there’s a high chance someone will be held responsible and if so, I’ll release that as soon as I get it.

Deal.
But you ignored something I asked for: to somehow verify this account so we're sure we're talking to actual Elaine Miller.

Exactly, this shit seems like the exact type of shit Mike Thurlow does, social engineer his way into gaining the trust of lolcows/KF users, then leaking compromising content. And it's especially suspicious since it has been confirmed that they have been associating with each other as of late.

Asking for his stuff to be removed is also something he did on Sig's splinter (dox of his "wife", I believe). I can imagine him being in some gayop discord group with her to gain her trust and gather information and then use this information under different identity to blackmail manipulate her (he likes to do both to gather nudes).

 

[What the shit]

Eww she tripleposted.

 

[Greasy Spoon]

I know the truth, so do the police, and all the relevant people.

I know you're lying (again) because the police would have told you not to discuss this with anyone, mainly because you don't know who's doing it.

Spoiler: Source

trust me bro

 

[TayandYou]

Asking for his stuff to be removed is also something he did on Sig's splinter (dox of his "wife", I believe). I can imagine him being in some gayop discord group with her to gain her trust and gather information and then use this information under different identity to blackmail manipulate her (he likes to do both to gather nudes).

Yup, he posted pics he got from a farmer he was flirting with, then changed his mind and asked it to be removed. Which is very similar to what happened here.

At this point with the similar modus operandi I would actually be surprised if Thurlow wasn't directly or indirectly involved in some way. If you think about it, what other possible reason does he have for seeking Elaine out other than him spotting a suitable target?