TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

Lindsay is a mom confirmed. Pray for her daughter. Article from NBC (link/archive)
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ANAHEIM, Calif. — The last time Lindsay Ellis addressed her fans on YouTube was eight months ago. Not long after that, she quit the platform, and Twitter, for good.

At the time, the science fiction author felt like it was the right choice, and perhaps the only choice, after she felt “canceled” by the internet community she had worked so hard to build. A string of tweets she wrote had stirred backlash, and ignited doxxing and death threats, all of which took a toll on her mental health.


But one year after leaving the online world behind, Ellis decided to attend the very conference that is dedicated to celebrating it: VidCon. She was among the hundreds of panelists at the Anaheim Convention Center-based event, which wrapped up on Saturday. There, she spoke on two panels, “Community Networking: Books That Hook” and “The Ghosts of Pop Culture, Past, Present, and Future.” (NBC News was a sponsor of the event).

“I had a bunch of people be like, ‘Why are you here?’” Ellis said about the reaction to her presence at the conference, which she last attended in 2019. “I was grandfathered in, man.”

Ellis is not the first, nor will she be the last, to feel the wrath of so-called cancel culture. However, she is among the few who publicly has returned in-person to face the community that rushed to cancel them.

This year’s VidCon, she said in an interview on Friday, made her realize just how much trauma she has been carrying around. At times, she said, she felt triggered while wandering the convention center, running into people from her past life and remembering why she left it.

‘I wish I had just apologized’​

In March 2021, Ellis came under fire after tweeting, “I think we need to come up with a name for this genre that is basically Avatar: The Last Airbender reduxes. It’s like half of all YA fantasy published in the last few years anyway.”

Some suggested the comparison of the two properties, both of which portray Asian characters and stories, was racist.

The social media rage only intensified when Ellis sent a poorly-worded follow up tweet to the backlash.

“I can see where if you squint, I was implying all Asian-inspired properties are the same, especially if you were already privy to those conversations where I had not seen them. But the basic framework of TLA is becoming popular in fantasy fiction outside of Asian inspired stuff,” Ellis wrote.

The use of the word “squint,” which has historically been used as a pejorative directed at Asian people, resulted in Ellis’ name trending on Twitter, with thousands admonishing her.

One month after the tweets, Ellis published a video entitled “Mask Off” to her 1.2 million YouTube subscribers. In the nearly two-hour video, Ellis explained, contextualized, and apologized for nearly every perceived infraction she had committed during the decade she had spent as a public figure online. In the video, she also shared her experience with sexual assault.
For some of her detractors, the laundry list of apologies still wasn’t enough. At first, fueled by anger, she tried to push back against the attacks and criticism, some led by a barrage of trolls.

Now, reflecting on the incident, Ellis said she regrets posting the “Mask Off” video in the first place.

“If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn’t have done it,” Ellis said. “I would have become the robot that ignores everything and apologizes for things … I wish I had just apologized.”

The emotional lows of VidCon​

For Ellis, the hardest part of leaving the online space was realizing how people she thought were her friends abandoned her when the tweet made her seem radioactive. It’s something she still struggles with today.

“So much of our lives are built around social media … whenever I posted that post, people talked about me like I was dead,” she said. “It was revelatory in the worst way,”

While at VidCon, certain encounters with some attendees deeply upset her. For example, she said, she ran into a person who she thought she’d made peace with, only to discover that wasn’t the case. Ellis cried for hours afterward.
She’s realized, she said, that these triggers are part of the cumulative trauma she acquired existing online for years.

Therapy hasn’t really helped.
“I’ve yet to meet a therapist who was equipped to deal or empathize with this kind of thing,” Ellis said. “I can’t even begin to suggest what the solution is. Do they need to be certified in online b—?”

Before she left the Internet, she was full of rage.

“At the time I wasn’t ready to admit just how mentally wrecked I was. I was done — even in the best of circumstances, I realized it’s never going to stop,” Ellis said. “I didn’t really anticipate how unable to recover I would be.”

Prior to her decision to quit YouTube, some fans and detractors told her that if she just made good content on YouTube again, she could win fans back.

By that point it was too late. She was “bled dry” of ideas, and the only thing that she had left to give was her video about Andrew Lloyd Webber’s critical flop sequel to “Phantom,” “Love Never Dies,” which is beloved by not only Ellis but also her fan base.

Will Ellis return to the Internet?​

Ellis’ VidCon bio referred to her as an author and “video essayist who creates humorous educational YouTube content about media, narrative and film theory.”

But her YouTube account, with 1.2 million subscribers, is now more a mausoleum, housing old videos, like her post about the (debatably) so-bad-it’s-good “Phantom of the Opera” film.

She’s not on Twitter. Her last post on Instagram, which she used primarily to promote her books, was in October 2021. In the post she wrote 2021 was in many ways one of her worst years, “and it’s only now really hitting me just how bad it was,” she wrote. “ I keep seeing people call me “resilient” because I don’t broadcast my hurt on social, or a repeated insistence (both from supporters and detractors) that no matter what people have done, I’ll be “okay.” I’m not resilient, and I’m not okay. I kept deluding myself that some return to normalcy would happen eventually, but I realize now that it’s never coming back.”
In January, she left her most recent gig: hosting the podcast “Musicalsplanin,” which she co-created with her friend Kaveh Taherian.

These days, while Ellis may remain mostly offline, she said she still has hot takes on films, which she sometimes wishes she could publicly share. For example, she said she thinks “The Prince of Egypt,” the 1998 animated film from DreamWorks Animation about the story of Exodus in the Bible, “sucks.”

In a different life, she would’ve made a YouTube video discussing the ins-and-outs of production, showing viewers how the film industry can be complex and ego-driven, resulting in artistic sacrifices and cash grabs.

But she said she thinks that posting those kinds of opinions now could incite a fresh wave of willful misinterpretation and harassment.

“The discourse around certain movies will prevent you from being honest about certain things and that’s really unfortunate,” Ellis said.

As far as what’s next, Ellis said she knows a return to social media is likely. She specifically mentioned Twitter, noting that she will have to learn to engage with her audience while promoting her books without saying anything that could be controversial.

For now, she has other priorities.

Six weeks prior to attending VidCon, Ellis gave birth to her first child. Having her daughter helped her to gain perspective on her life post-internet, and what priorities matter to her most.

Her daughter’s birth reaffirmed her decision to go offline, although she recognizes in the future, she may have to help her daughter navigate whatever that iteration of social media comes when she’s of age.

“I can only hope that I stay hip to the jive enough to advise wisely and that I’m respected enough by my offspring that I’m actually listened to,” she said. “But I don’t know if anyone can actually plan for that.”
 
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Dear God help us all and especially that poor baby girl, I hope Lindsay at least stayed off the booze so she doesn't have FAS. That kid is going to be so fucked just like the rest of her gaggle of harpies' kids it wouldn't shock me if the kid trooned out at age 4 or something else as fucked up.(:_(
 
So if baby Ellis-Hansen was born 6 weeks before VidCon, that'd be around May 12th so she definitely knew she was knocked up in December when she released the Goodbye post. Woman blew up her entire career while hormonal and pregnant :story:

It is a moderately good sign that she called her kid her daughter and isn't raising a theybie...yet.
 
[...]In January, she left her most recent gig: hosting the podcast “Musicalsplanin,” which she co-created with her friend Kaveh Taherian.

These days, while Ellis may remain mostly offline, she said she still has hot takes on films, which she sometimes wishes she could publicly share. For example, she said she thinks “The Prince of Egypt,” the 1998 animated film from DreamWorks Animation about the story of Exodus in the Bible, “sucks.”

So let me get this straight: Lindsay disowned her hometown/family/upbringing for being "uneducated backwater Confederate worshipping trash", moved to NYC and earned an expensive film degree from an elite liberal university....only to realize that deep down, all she really wanted in life was the ability to openly hate on Jews without facing backlash or criticism. (Or as Linsday puts it - "Old Testament baby killing colonizers that worship a Death God")

Anyway, I'm going to make a prediction: Lindsay is setting up the narrative for her dramatic return to the interwebz....as a member of the Alt-Left (...she doesn't have the balls to go full Red Pill). You know, the El Chapo Traphouse sorta dirtbag Leftists - where they're cool with replacement theory and antisemitism, and openly hate on "woke" leftist shenanigans. But they're still progressive enough to want student loan forgiveness and free healthcare.
 
I mean it’s a pretty common phenomenon. Most people are insecure and especially Lindsay. She’s not as smart as she thinks she is but she’s smart enough to know how meaningless praise is from a sea of online retards who will lap up what she puts out no matter what. She has a lot of contempt for her fans and sees her as superior to them. Lindsay is a self-loathing person so she’s not going to respect anyone who actually likes her.

To be fair, I also have a lot of contempt for her fans.

And lol that the theories she went offline because she was pregnant were proven correct.
 
Whew, that child is gonna grow up in a Disneyland.

What are the bets that Cora will go through a pregnancy in book 3 and that "it was totally planned from the beginning".

It's honestly a miracle with her alcohol consumption that she managed to.get pregnant at all.

I seriously hope the best for her child, but the chances aren't good. It'll probably be smothered to death as she gave up her entire career for her and has practically nothing else to do.
 
Oh man I can't wait for the shit posts about her keeping the white baby show up.

Can't wait until that little ankle bitter gets to watch the documentary its wine mom made about aborting her brown older sibling.

And not a word about book three. And yet insists on being branded an author.
Very little about it so far on the socials; her fans haven't gotten the memo yet and no one is publicly congratulating her. Congrats Lindsay! Some Twitter reactions to her article:
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In all honesty I hope her kid is healthy and manages to turn out well. If anything, Lindsay at least seems to have the sense not to post about her kid all over social media so there won't be future issues about the kid being an "internet star" before she gets out of elementary school. Let her daughter have some privacy.

I half-expect Cora to be turned into a cyborg and somehow reproduce a new race that's superior to both humans and the aliens.

...Fucking hell I just remembered the first book and how the alien baby accidentally killed itself by tearing off its own life support suit in a fit of enthusiasm while taunting the bad guy.
 
So...breaking news:

Lindsay has a new, very very very prestigious job.

She's associate story producer for the Kardashian's new reality tv show! (The one on Hulu that is generally considered a dud and will probably get canceled after season 2).

*snickers* she's sure putting those film degrees to work!

Maybe Kylie Jenner can help Lindsay finish her third book, considering Kylie Jenner's glorified Starscream fanfic turned YA dystopian romance series was at least coherent.


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Well, I'm an idiot. For some reason I thought this was new information (wasn't the show just released? IDK I don't have Hulu).

*shrugs*
 
Anyway, I'm going to make a prediction: Lindsay is setting up the narrative for her dramatic return to the interwebz....as a member of the Alt-Left (...she doesn't have the balls to go full Red Pill). You know, the El Chapo Traphouse sorta dirtbag Leftists - where they're cool with replacement theory and antisemitism, and openly hate on "woke" leftist shenanigans. But they're still progressive enough to want student loan forgiveness and free healthcare.
I would expect that to happen considering that Dillin Thomas also returned to the internet under a new persona/possible child to use as a meatshield the past few weeks, but if Lindsay does return, you'd better believe there's a huge chance she'll use her new daughter as a meatshield.
 
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