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He drew the killer in a pretty sympathetic way. I'm sorry, but that's what I'm getting at here.
Serial killer fangirls
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He drew the killer in a pretty sympathetic way. I'm sorry, but that's what I'm getting at here.
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I spent last night talking to my friend on skype. He's obsessed with these killers, especially Weise and the Columbiners. Not to mention his tumblr blog is filled with posts about serial killers.
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Ramirez fangirls just strike me as horribly shallow. "Sure he actually raped children...but he's cute!" Chances are if these people had kids they would change their tone fast...or at least I hope so.
Eric was incredibly homophobic. I wondered what he'd think if he read any of those fanfics.
I think having a drill bit saw shoved through your forehead or eye while still alive qualifies as torture.
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Heck. How the heck would Hitler react if he knew a large portion of Nazi fetishists were gayer than a glitterbombed flamingo.
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Peter Kurten got a non-glorified appearance in the great novel The Bloody Red Baron.
Albert Fish got a very well-made documentary on him.
Gilles de Rais is still analyzed and used as think piece on the corruption power brings.
The newer guys get the chibi shit. If anything, those soulless bastards of the past got off easy.
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James Alan Fox and Jack Levin wrote in their book 'Extreme Killing' that often groupies are taken with the idea that they always know where their target of infatuation is. "He may be behind bars, but at least he's not out in the bars with some other woman."
I'm surprised as well that Gilles de Rais doesn't get more attention from groupies. While in his portrait he doesn't look exactly like someone who would make a great portrait, he sure as hell wasn't overly ugly in the face. In his time of extreme poverty and untreatable illnesses, he was very likely seen as quite attractive, purely for the fact that his mouth hadn't been rotted away by Noma. Add to that he had teh gays, some of Joan of Arc's second hand glamour, and a titillating possibility that he might have been set up (though I sincerely doubt it) and you'd think he'd have his own Yahoo group and fortnightly newsletter. It is interesting to read the note on de Rais' Wikipedia entry, however:
Doubtless many, if not most, of those women were there because they genuinely believed that it was an altar of St Anne, but I suspect that a significant number were there for reasons that had more to do with the thrillingly gruesome stories that their Nan used to tell them when Mum wasn't around.
I have to confess to wondering where fascination with monsters crosses the line into infatuation as well as any of you. Example: I've read and watched a lot of material about Elizabeth Bathory. I started with Ann Rice, worked my way back to Bram Stoker, then onto Vlad Tepes, and then finally Bathory. Naturally, I absorbed a fair amount of romanticism along the way. It's difficult for me to think of Bathory as a person, because the image that comes to mind straight away is something like this:
(Thank you Hammer Studios) Whereas in reality, she was one of the ugliest, most vile human beings that has ever blighted the world. But I still think that a lot of the media she's inspired is fuck awesome, and I'm very likely to hunt something up just because she's sited as an inspiration for it. It's very confusing. So if I were to ever meet a Bundy fan IRL, I know that I'd have to pull my punch to their mouth at the last second because there's a significant amount of hypocrisy there.
I do seriously wonder how the groupies would react to meeting Albert Fish face to face. I suspect that they wouldn't hang around for long.
I'm surprised as well that Gilles de Rais doesn't get more attention from groupies. While in his portrait he doesn't look exactly like someone who would make a great portrait, he sure as hell wasn't overly ugly in the face. In his time of extreme poverty and untreatable illnesses, he was very likely seen as quite attractive, purely for the fact that his mouth hadn't been rotted away by Noma. Add to that he had teh gays, some of Joan of Arc's second hand glamour, and a titillating possibility that he might have been set up (though I sincerely doubt it) and you'd think he'd have his own Yahoo group and fortnightly newsletter. It is interesting to read the note on de Rais' Wikipedia entry, however:
Doubtless many, if not most, of those women were there because they genuinely believed that it was an altar of St Anne, but I suspect that a significant number were there for reasons that had more to do with the thrillingly gruesome stories that their Nan used to tell them when Mum wasn't around.
I have to confess to wondering where fascination with monsters crosses the line into infatuation as well as any of you. Example: I've read and watched a lot of material about Elizabeth Bathory. I started with Ann Rice, worked my way back to Bram Stoker, then onto Vlad Tepes, and then finally Bathory. Naturally, I absorbed a fair amount of romanticism along the way. It's difficult for me to think of Bathory as a person, because the image that comes to mind straight away is something like this:
(Thank you Hammer Studios) Whereas in reality, she was one of the ugliest, most vile human beings that has ever blighted the world. But I still think that a lot of the media she's inspired is fuck awesome, and I'm very likely to hunt something up just because she's sited as an inspiration for it. It's very confusing. So if I were to ever meet a Bundy fan IRL, I know that I'd have to pull my punch to their mouth at the last second because there's a significant amount of hypocrisy there.
I do seriously wonder how the groupies would react to meeting Albert Fish face to face. I suspect that they wouldn't hang around for long.
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WOW.
Two teenage girls face trial in Colorado for 'planning mass school shooting'
"Two 16-year-olds have been charged with plotting a mass shooting at their suburban Denver high school, in an exceptional case that finds two teenage girls on trial instead of teenage boys.
Prosecutors said the two girls worshipped the Columbine shooters, and the movie Natural Born Killers. They had specific targets, the prosecution said, but everyone at the school was a potential victim. Entries on social networking sites show moody pictures of blood-spattered walls, and hand-scrawled journal entries filled with anguished prose."
This is just an excerpt; the article basically just elaborates that they were typical serial killer fangirls (specifically of the Columbine shooters) and had the generic blood-spatter/violent/“dark blog” Tumblrs.
But guys, there's nothing wrong with being obsessed with serial killers and school shooters!
Two teenage girls face trial in Colorado for 'planning mass school shooting'
"Two 16-year-olds have been charged with plotting a mass shooting at their suburban Denver high school, in an exceptional case that finds two teenage girls on trial instead of teenage boys.
Prosecutors said the two girls worshipped the Columbine shooters, and the movie Natural Born Killers. They had specific targets, the prosecution said, but everyone at the school was a potential victim. Entries on social networking sites show moody pictures of blood-spattered walls, and hand-scrawled journal entries filled with anguished prose."
This is just an excerpt; the article basically just elaborates that they were typical serial killer fangirls (specifically of the Columbine shooters) and had the generic blood-spatter/violent/“dark blog” Tumblrs.
But guys, there's nothing wrong with being obsessed with serial killers and school shooters!
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Some responses to the crime:
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Just saying, maybe the police should check out these blogs...
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At least some people are pointing out the madness.
Lol, this isn't even accurate. She lied about being a serial killer and modeled her claims (such as "I only kill bad people) after the show Dexter. Yes, she did actually kill someone, but she's far from a serial killer with such a high body count.
These people fetishize murderers so much they don't even care if their claims are accurate or not.
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hybristophilia is a fucked up thing man, a really fucked up thing, makes it all the worse that most of my family works in corrections facilities, including one of my relatives being at ted bundies execution, the fact people think hes "omg so kawaii" is honestly just fucking awful to me
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Not exactly a serial killer, but as one reviewer aptly put it, "This is so precious I want to tape this on my refrigerator."
I don't support in thing that the Nazi and Hitler did were good: Believe me. But somehow I just fell in love with Amon Goeth. Not just in the movie but in real life. I really hate the millions and millions of lives Amon screwed up.
You should be ashamed of yourself
The way you've treated Jews
How could live with yourself
How could you be so rude
When did the devil decide to take over
He had you in his clutch
To him you were like his 4 leaf clover
You were lucky too much
You killed Jews for sport
Not even realizing what you were doing
Your mind was blocked with a fort
People lives you were screwing
Your heart was very thick
No one could touch your blackness
It would take a miracle to get to it
Or maybe just calm down your sadness
For the crime and murders you did, you were hung to death
Nobody could help you
So in Poland September 13th is were you took your last breath
People tell me I am crazy, when I said I am in love with you
You and the Nazi may have been evil
But everyone deserves love
Even they thought it was illegal
But Amon, in away you were special to me, so I look above
Overseeing the deaths of thousands of people and personally murdering dozens more was very rude, Amon.
fucking A, man
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Heh. I ended up digging out my copy of Ann Rule's 'The Stranger Beside Me' and rereading it. Rule's account of Ted Bundy, the trials, the publicity, the groupies, is fascinating. My copy is one that was updated in 2000. Reading the final chapter, "Update: 20 Years Later" Rule was still struggling to understand wtf is up with murder groupies. She'd spent decades amongst some of the worst monsters imaginable and the people who hunted them, but she remained flummoxed by the groupies. When she wrote the update in 2000, she was still getting letters from women who were mourning Bundy and were convinced that he was just misunderstood. Underneath he was a good person with a terrible illness, and that nearly every one of them was convinced that if they'd just been able to meet him he'd have fallen in love with them and be redeemed, and that they wouldn't get their brains bashed out of their skulls (literally) with a crowbar and raped while their corpse was still twitching. And raped again after their corpse stopped twitching. And again and again until the corpse was too decomposed to rape.
The worst example of this was Carole Ann Boone. Rule never corresponded with the woman, but she does give a good account of the way Boone and Bundy managed to exploit a strange loophole in the law, that allowed them to be legally married after a bizarre little line of 'questioning', with Boone as a witness on the stand. Bundy acted as his own lawyer (as he did often) during his murder trial. Rule explained how it worked but it all went over my little brain. The extent of my ability to read legal documents is legislation specific to my job, so if anyone's familiar with this, it'd be great if you could explain it slowly and with small words for me. Boone went on to have Bundy's whelp which she also proudly showed off to the world. Popular belief is that she was knocked up behind the soft drink machines during visiting hours to Death Row. Rule repeats this in her book as such, however, this article from an anonymous correctional officer says that she Bundy passed a condom full of his semen from his mouth to hers as they kissed. I dunno which is true, but given the way Boone would drag her teenage son (no relation to Bundy, she'd had the son to an ex before all this happened) to all of the trials and visits in jail and all that shit, smearing the kid's face all over the news and making certain that the whole world knew that the boy's stepfather was/is one of the most notorious murderers in the English speaking world, I think it's easy to conclude that Boone was absolutely a classy and very intelligent lady who loved and cared deeply for her children. As opposed to being a brainless gold digger who was convinced that she was going to make a mint on payments for interviews after Bundy was finally knocked off. Towards the end she appeared to finally grasp how high up she was on the list of most hated women in America, so by the time Bundy was executed she was nowhere to be seen. A very quick search suggests that neither Boone nor her and Bundy's daughter have had much to do with the media since. It can only be hoped that Boone finally realised what a shit awful mother and general human being she was, and that her daughter would always be hunted and harassed all of her life, because of her biological father. I feel for both Boone's son and her and Bundy's daughter, but Boone herself is a fucking eight day old, shit smeared sanitary napkin, soaked with urine.
It must be stated that Bundy himself had all the hallmarks of a shit awful childhood. There's a belief held very strongly by those close to him, including Ann Rule and his own near relatives, that his biological father was his own grandfather, the product of incest with his mother and her own father. Accounts state that Bundy's father/grandfather was violent, abusive, vicious and psychotic, and tortured both animals and people with abandon. All the while he was pulling off a Jekyll and Hyde act as a respectable Christian minister. Rule relates how an aunt of Bundy woke up in the middle of the night to find herself surrounded by knives. They'd been taken from the kitchen drawer and arranged very carefully and quietly all around her on the mattress so that she didn't wake up until the arrangement was finished. The culprit was her nephew, Theodore, who she saw was standing very close to her and grinning. Who was three years old. When you've a monster who has all the signs of being born with this brand of insanity, I think that the only thing you really can do is lock them up to protect society.
Bundy is suspected of kidnapping and murdering an eight year old child, Ann Marie Burr, while he was just fourteen years old. He denied it but frankly, anyone who'd have heard him say that the sky was blue would have been compelled to go outside and check. At the end of her book, Rule says that she believes that Bundy's real victim count was over a hundred. Others concurred, including one of his own lawyers. (And there were many of those lawyers; he kept firing them.) What a delightfully charming scamp he was!
According to Rule, during all of Bundy's trials and appeals there were always groupies packed into the courtroom, all attractive young women that he'd be delighted to be alone with in other circumstances, oohing and ahhing as he posed for the camera and played his own lawyer, and in general did a very charming and attractive impression of batshit insanity.
Unfortunately, even in these so called enlightened times times, people tend to attribute admirable traits to monsters, even with so much information about anything and anyone only a few key taps and a phone line away.
Take Malcom Nagen for example; while he was on the run he'd attained a mythic status, became a folk hero and a larrikin, sort of a modern day Ned Kelly, leading the bumbling policemen around and around. People left food out for him and quietly cheered him on... and it never crossed their minds to look him up. If they'd had, they'd have realised that he was not on the run for knocking over a bank or two. He was on the run because he was a rapist and a murderer, and when he was finally caught he cheerfully admitted that he'd loved every single second of his crimes and given opportunity he'd have made a habit of it.
Humans are weird.
The worst example of this was Carole Ann Boone. Rule never corresponded with the woman, but she does give a good account of the way Boone and Bundy managed to exploit a strange loophole in the law, that allowed them to be legally married after a bizarre little line of 'questioning', with Boone as a witness on the stand. Bundy acted as his own lawyer (as he did often) during his murder trial. Rule explained how it worked but it all went over my little brain. The extent of my ability to read legal documents is legislation specific to my job, so if anyone's familiar with this, it'd be great if you could explain it slowly and with small words for me. Boone went on to have Bundy's whelp which she also proudly showed off to the world. Popular belief is that she was knocked up behind the soft drink machines during visiting hours to Death Row. Rule repeats this in her book as such, however, this article from an anonymous correctional officer says that she Bundy passed a condom full of his semen from his mouth to hers as they kissed. I dunno which is true, but given the way Boone would drag her teenage son (no relation to Bundy, she'd had the son to an ex before all this happened) to all of the trials and visits in jail and all that shit, smearing the kid's face all over the news and making certain that the whole world knew that the boy's stepfather was/is one of the most notorious murderers in the English speaking world, I think it's easy to conclude that Boone was absolutely a classy and very intelligent lady who loved and cared deeply for her children. As opposed to being a brainless gold digger who was convinced that she was going to make a mint on payments for interviews after Bundy was finally knocked off. Towards the end she appeared to finally grasp how high up she was on the list of most hated women in America, so by the time Bundy was executed she was nowhere to be seen. A very quick search suggests that neither Boone nor her and Bundy's daughter have had much to do with the media since. It can only be hoped that Boone finally realised what a shit awful mother and general human being she was, and that her daughter would always be hunted and harassed all of her life, because of her biological father. I feel for both Boone's son and her and Bundy's daughter, but Boone herself is a fucking eight day old, shit smeared sanitary napkin, soaked with urine.
It must be stated that Bundy himself had all the hallmarks of a shit awful childhood. There's a belief held very strongly by those close to him, including Ann Rule and his own near relatives, that his biological father was his own grandfather, the product of incest with his mother and her own father. Accounts state that Bundy's father/grandfather was violent, abusive, vicious and psychotic, and tortured both animals and people with abandon. All the while he was pulling off a Jekyll and Hyde act as a respectable Christian minister. Rule relates how an aunt of Bundy woke up in the middle of the night to find herself surrounded by knives. They'd been taken from the kitchen drawer and arranged very carefully and quietly all around her on the mattress so that she didn't wake up until the arrangement was finished. The culprit was her nephew, Theodore, who she saw was standing very close to her and grinning. Who was three years old. When you've a monster who has all the signs of being born with this brand of insanity, I think that the only thing you really can do is lock them up to protect society.
Bundy is suspected of kidnapping and murdering an eight year old child, Ann Marie Burr, while he was just fourteen years old. He denied it but frankly, anyone who'd have heard him say that the sky was blue would have been compelled to go outside and check. At the end of her book, Rule says that she believes that Bundy's real victim count was over a hundred. Others concurred, including one of his own lawyers. (And there were many of those lawyers; he kept firing them.) What a delightfully charming scamp he was!
According to Rule, during all of Bundy's trials and appeals there were always groupies packed into the courtroom, all attractive young women that he'd be delighted to be alone with in other circumstances, oohing and ahhing as he posed for the camera and played his own lawyer, and in general did a very charming and attractive impression of batshit insanity.
Unfortunately, even in these so called enlightened times times, people tend to attribute admirable traits to monsters, even with so much information about anything and anyone only a few key taps and a phone line away.
Take Malcom Nagen for example; while he was on the run he'd attained a mythic status, became a folk hero and a larrikin, sort of a modern day Ned Kelly, leading the bumbling policemen around and around. People left food out for him and quietly cheered him on... and it never crossed their minds to look him up. If they'd had, they'd have realised that he was not on the run for knocking over a bank or two. He was on the run because he was a rapist and a murderer, and when he was finally caught he cheerfully admitted that he'd loved every single second of his crimes and given opportunity he'd have made a habit of it.
Humans are weird.
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https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-columbine-shooters-the-girls-who-love-them-and-me
There was an interesting article on broadly about this topic.
"Reb420angel is part of a controversial fandom community of women—some of whom describe themselves as "Columbiners"—who have connected with one another based on their shared interest in the details of the crime, and especially in Dylan and Eric. They range in age from their early teens to late twenties, and blog about the shooting from all over the world."
Eh..... K.
"They also produce a lot of original content, which includes Columbine themed quizzes, like "Which Columbine Victim are you"
There was an interesting article on broadly about this topic.
"Reb420angel is part of a controversial fandom community of women—some of whom describe themselves as "Columbiners"—who have connected with one another based on their shared interest in the details of the crime, and especially in Dylan and Eric. They range in age from their early teens to late twenties, and blog about the shooting from all over the world."
Eh..... K.
"They also produce a lot of original content, which includes Columbine themed quizzes, like "Which Columbine Victim are you"
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