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SBG said:
Just sounds like a lot of scaremongering or cheerleading for retards. Groups like the FBI are meant to enforce the law as it was written, so it shouldn't be some grand travesty if they're limited from making up laws themselves.

What Dems have wanted to do for a while is have federal agencies just make up their own rules so that they didn't need to get the votes in congress to pass those same rules. So if SCOTUS ruled against the EPA it probably wouldn't affect the FBI or CIA so much as prevent groups like the EPA just making shit up as they go along.


Retards like this are acting like it's a power grab to not give a federal agency a power it was never allowed by congress to have.

They're also acting like it's somehow massively strange that even though the regulation in question wasn't enacted that a court case is still going on. When that's pretty normal. It's like if you had someone sue over a wrongful gag order and then the person that asked for that gag order decided to have it dropped before the court could look at the case. The court could still go forward with the case to help set precedent, which is the same shit happening here, the courts want to just have the precedent set because this is a major problem worth addressing.

Federal agencies do get a lot of leeway about how they run themselves, but it's a bit different when those federal agencies are telling private businesses how they be run. Might be why the courts feel this is worth ruling on.
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Of course it's a power grab. The longstanding gentleman's agreement in the federal government is that the political right would never use power to do anything except cut taxes, increase defense spending, expand the surveillance state, or start wars. The right actually doing things to curtail liberal expansionism means seizing machinery of the federal government and actually using it, something that traditionally goes against "principled conservatism."
 
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BREYER ANNOUNCES RETIREMENT EFFECTIVE TOMORROW

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TJT said:
This argument always makes me laugh. This was proposed in the book Freakonomics (2005) that was then peddled in every university as mandatory reading in certain required classes. I remember distinctly having to read it. Although interesting. it's merely another way of looking at it. Nonetheless, after 20 years of pushing it as gospel people do indeed believe this notion that abortion means less crime is the absolute truth.

If anything it proves the efficacy of forcing a generation of people where most attend university to read and digest various materials you deem important. In an effort to shape the cultural thought on topics important to your cause (leftists). The long march through the institutions indeed.
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Every time I see people reposting Freakonomics (which also posited that we should absolutely shoot sulfur compounds into the upper atmosphere to stop global warming, definitely no way this ends in eternal ice war), I recall that they don't even proclaim this as gospel in the book, just engage in a lengthy "what if black people didn't exist" exercise, because
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The racists are in coastal cities, not the southern states.
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Klokateer636 said:
So sleepy Joe gets to swap one liberal justice for another.

Not a big deal, right?

Unless something fucking huge is coming out at the same time.
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West Virginia v. the Environmental Protection Agency the outcome of which may absolutely murderdeath the ability of congress to delegate lawmaking to unelected federal agencies.

Meaning that the ATF, CDC, FDA, and EPA all get ratfucked, and contgress actually has to legislate. If the conservative bench is split on this, could lead to some fuckery.
 
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AnotherPleb said:
They're gonna cheese it hard, and with the other rulings I can see this shit getting spicy.

Oh let them drop the hammer on the alphabet agencies.
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If the Supreme Court guts the deep state's power grab, Trump will unironically be the greatest president in history.
AnotherPleb said:
If they go full bore this will send shockwaves through the swamp that will make Trump look mild in comparison.
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Who knows how this shakes out, but those abortion protestors may have directly led to Trump fulfilling his promise of draining the swamp. How much sweet, delicious irony would that be?
 
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Klokateer636 said:
So sleepy Joe gets to swap one liberal justice for another.

Not a big deal, right?

Unless something fucking huge is coming out at the same time.
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Nah we've known this for a year. His replacement was already confirmed.

Badungus Kabungus said:
That's the guy they were planning to replace with Jumanji, so it wasn't a big secret that he's retiring. Thursday, though... timing is kind of suspicious.
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Thursday (tomorrow) is the last day of the term.
 
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Netizennameless said:
If the Supreme Court guts the deep state's power grab, Trump will unironically be the greatest president in history.

Who knows how this shakes out, but those abortion protestors may have directly led to Trump fulfilling his promise of draining the swamp. How much sweet, delicious irony would that be?
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There's gonna be a lot of salt out of that West Virginia et al. v EPA et al. no matter what happens.

If they strike down the EPA, people will reee because "How dare you!"
If they reject the extensive powers given by cheveron deference, then the right will ree because it is tyranny.

It sounds like from oral arguments this will be a heavily split case with mutiple concurrence-in-part and dissent-in-parts, but I'm just some idiot on the webs so it could come down 9-0 or 7-2.
 
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What sucks is either way no good will come from it.

If regulatory agencies get nerfed, Congress will just pass some 1-billion-page omnibus bill copy-pasting all the current agency regs, and that will be so loaded with pork it will be delivered inside a golden swine, and will cement a bunch of rigid regulations that will never change and turbofuck the economy even further.

If not, we remain stuck in a place where government agencies get to write legislation at whim.
 
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