Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

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also anyone have some neat ideas for left over flat soda or beer? 4th of july i'm expecting a lot of leftovers.

Beer bread.

https://www.thatswhatchesaid.net/beer-bread/

https://thenovicechefblog.com/buttery-beer-bread/

I prefer the second one, with butter, but either works. You can swap beer for Cola / Root beer.

Pepsi chicken.

https://insanelygoodrecipes.com/coca-cola-chicken/

https://www.pillsbury.com/recipes/barbecue-cola-chicken/aa68549f-0f48-4438-874e-609cfda35dd4

Basically mix BBQ sauce and Cola and use that as a marinade, then as a sauce to cook the chicken in (in a Dutch oven / slow cooker / skillet with lid) or on the grill. The trick to doing it off the grill is to make sure it's a closed environment (i.e., a lid) so the mix has a chance to caramelize onto the chicken. Cleanup sucks donkey dick, btw, although I suspect a cast iron skillet / dutch oven wouldn't even flinch at it. Would probably work really well as a wing sauce, too, come to think of it, although you'd probably want to add some extra seasonings (Lea and Perrins + onion powder maybe) and boil it down a touch.

 

[Puff]

Personally, I wouldn't recommend fermenting and distilling flat sodas. You will get a product of some sort, but I doubt it would taste any good. Just use a mixture of sugar, yeast, and your choice of yeast nutrient if you want something cheap.

What you could do, if you do ferment the flat soda, is distill as much of the flammable products as you can and use them to fuel a homemade spirit lamp or something. That's sort of MacGyver-ish, I guess. Get creative with it.

I was just suggesting it as a source of sugar if it's sitting around. With all of the acids and flavors, who knows what would distill off with the alcohol now that I think about it.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

It's wild to me that we're all but certainly at the precipice of a global depression, yet everyone around me is frolicking about like its 2019; I'm really just numb to it at this point, every indicator is pointing towards what me and other's were "doomposting" about months ago, yet I can't even muster an emotional response in either direction.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

It's wild to me that we're all but certainly at the precipice of a global depression, yet everyone around me is frolicking about like its 2019; I'm really just numb to it at this point, every indicator is pointing towards what me and other's were "doomposting" about months ago, yet I can't even muster an emotional response in either direction.

Arrogance is a slow killer. Apathy is the dying gasp of a people.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

It's wild to me that we're all but certainly at the precipice of a global depression, yet everyone around me is frolicking about like its 2019; I'm really just numb to it at this point, every indicator is pointing towards what me and other's were "doomposting" about months ago, yet I can't even muster an emotional response in either direction.

On the flipside, some are frolicking about and wasting money on trips and whatnot because there's a depression coming on and believe that this may be last call on that. I wouldn't worry about it too much in either case, if people are ignorant of the signs, that's on them at this point.

 

[ToxicKek]

It's wild to me that we're all but certainly at the precipice of a global depression, yet everyone around me is frolicking about like its 2019; I'm really just numb to it at this point, every indicator is pointing towards what me and other's were "doomposting" about months ago, yet I can't even muster an emotional response in either direction.

I've been seeing it exactly how you have but after seeing the whole clown show surrounding coof tyranny - the masks, the forced vaccinations, the compliance, the lack of normies complaining and happily putting on their masks even going on the 3rd year (over 90% of the population still wear masks outdoors in Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Korea, etc) - I'm not surprised anymore.

I've been called ToO nEgATiVe and ToXiC but so far all the "conspiracy theories" in the last 2 years have been proving themselves right. I really have no clue what to do at this point... like do I just keep working my job and keep prepping? I've realized it's not just one, two or even 10 things are bullshit now, but the entire system we've been living in is farce.

Meanwhile you have all these dumbfucks, still asleep, posting about their vacations and parties because they got vaccinated and boosted for max Good Boy Points, like there's no giant depression and rampant rise of "random" diseases and "sudden" deaths ahead of us for the foreseeable decades to come.

 

[The Ugly One]

I've been called ToO nEgATiVe and ToXiC but so far all the "conspiracy theories" in the last 2 years have been proving themselves right. I really have no clue what to do at this point... like do I just keep working my job and keep prepping? I've realized it's not just one, two or even 10 things are bullshit now, but the entire system we've been living in is farce.

I don't think it's a positive development that the people who used to meet in smoke-filled rooms have realized they can go on camera, say exactly what they're doing, and get away with it by having Snopes Dot Com deem it "misinformation."

 

[Chinggis Khan]

I don't think it's a positive development that the people who used to meet in smoke-filled rooms have realized they can go on camera, say exactly what they're doing, and get away with it by having Snopes Dot Com deem it "misinformation."

I think we’ve reached the point that people can be unemployed and borderline homeless and they will still repeat talking points in the MSM talking about the “hot job market” and “companies can’t find employees who want to work anymore”, and how we need more immigrants as it increase wages for all of us. We’re pretty much already there.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

It's wild to me that we're all but certainly at the precipice of a global depression, yet everyone around me is frolicking about like its 2019; I'm really just numb to it at this point, every indicator is pointing towards what me and other's were "doomposting" about months ago, yet I can't even muster an emotional response in either direction.

This happened in 2007-2008. “The fundamentals of the economy are strong” was the rallying cry of the retard back then. Then Bear Stearns happened. Then Lehman Brothers happened. After that, the economy fell into freefall and all the mindless optimism went away. It’ll require something similar here. Boomers are understanding it because MUH 401K has dropped by about 20% of its peak, I know of several who were going to retire but have put it off because their 401gays are limping along. For those who don’t pay attention to the stock market, it’ll require some big firms to either go tits up or make huge payroll cuts before they notice.

 

[WULULULULU]

This isn't as dumb as you think since your money is rapidly losing value and there's really not any ways to save besides converting your money into an asset less vulnerable to inflation/banking retardation like PM or land or converting your money into something you'll need tomorrow (food, ammo, etc.). Alcohol is actually a good purchase since you can make hand sanitizer with it (with vodka at least), can purify water, it's high in calories/carbs, it can keep for a very long time if properly stored (decades to centuries), it's good for bartering with, and it's fun to drink.

You're probably fucked anyway and if SHTF for real then you're either thoroughly fucked or you'll be able to hang around people who if you work for them and follow their orders they'll give you food and clean water and if you're lucky some guns/ammo they looted from somewhere. People take care of others in times of disaster provided they're not obviously bad people/trying to kill you. That's how the human race survived this long.

Couldn't have agreed more. Many times I keep thinking about saving money for something but when the year starts off shit and the rise of online money came into light, it puts an interesting question if what savings you have such as paper bills will even continue to be relevant in the years ahead. Yeah, you can buy stocked food/freezers/oil barrels to save up but why bother when the apocalypse occurs and everyone is shit-ass fucked. Its like as if the Sun is about to die and all you do is stock up on beans but you know the Sun is gonna burn the planet so why bother, might as well enjoy while it lasts.

 

[Quindoll]

This happened in 2007-2008. “The fundamentals of the economy are strong” was the rallying cry of the retard back then. Then Bear Stearns happened. Then Lehman Brothers happened. After that, the economy fell into freefall and all the mindless optimism went away. It’ll require something similar here. Boomers are understanding it because MUH 401K has dropped by about 20% of its peak, I know of several who were going to retire but have put it off because their 401gays are limping along. For those who don’t pay attention to the stock market, it’ll require some big firms to either go tits up or make huge payroll cuts before they notice.

If you had to put off your retirement you had way to much of your asset allocation in volatile assets like stocks. To much greed.

 

[AbendCode12]

Be careful liquidating all your savings into assets right now. There's going to be a deflationary rugpull right before the hyperinflationary rugpull.

What is the deflation going to be or look like? I can't imagine that happening. The western energy sector just had Russian oil/natural gas cut off as well as nuclear in most western economies notably Germany and including Japan.

Deflation in the 21st Century
The most recent deflationary period in U.S. history was during the Great Recession, which officially lasted from December 2007 to June 2009. During this time period, there was a drop in commodity prices, particularly oil, and economists worried that deflation would lead to a prolonged recession, rising unemployment, and further strain on the U.S. economy. In reality, the deflation that occurred was less severe than some economists predicted. While the exact reason for this is unclear, some economists have speculated that the unusually high cost of borrowing in late 2008 and 2009 put pressure on businesses and prevented them from cutting their prices.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/040715/were-there-any-periods-major-deflation-us-history.asp

 

[Hippopatumus]

What is the deflation going to be or look like? I can't imagine that happening.

Imagine it.

- Absolutely massive MASSIVE demand destruction as whole sectors of the economy begin to layoff workers and families feeling the pinch eliminate all discretionary spending
- Housing crash. Soon you can buy a 500k house for 200k
- Bullwhip effect in durable goods triggers huge price cuts in retail
- (this is the big one) A massive surge in demand for dollars from other countries

*10 minutes later*

- Fed turns back on the tap
- Dollar demand fades as other countries reduce trade in dollars and reduce trade with dollars. Slowly, and then all at once.
- War economy will require massive money printing on top of QE (you think NATO is activating 300,000 troops for a picnic?)

Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Remember when rappers were flashing Euros for cred because the Dollar was devalued?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

 

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- Housing crash. Soon you can buy a 500k house for 200k

Problem is the housing market's bubbled as fuck right now. $60k houses in my parents area are going for $250k-350k. That's the price floor for their town and the next 2 towns out, and we're talking shanty town shacks that were built in 1915 and have say, 600 square feet of living space and no appreciable yard. This isn't a Seattle suburb, either, the largest town in the area is a shitty college town with maybe 40k people in it.

So even if that 500k house is going for 200k, it still needs to drop another 100-150k to see the price be realistic.

 

[Hippopatumus]

So even if that 500k house is going for 200k, it still needs to drop another 100-150k to see the price be realistic.

That is not going to happen

 

[Stasi]

$60k houses in my parents area are going for $250k-350k

Similar story in Bongland and from what my friends tell me in a lot of places in Europe, even cities and towns with no local economy to speak of where prices should be rock bottom. What the fuck drove prices so much, it can't all be techbros moving to the middle of nowhere for their remote jobs? Either way they're part of the problem, I hope they all get fucked in the coming crash.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Similar story in Bongland and from what my friends tell me in a lot of places in Europe, even cities and towns with no local economy to speak of where prices should be rock bottom. What the fuck drove prices so much, it can't all be techbros moving to the middle of nowhere for their remote jobs? Either way they're part of the problem, I hope they all get fucked in the coming crash.

Can't speak for anywhere else, but in the UK it's a combination of things.

Lots of old housing stock has been demolished for being insufficiently "energy efficient". Meanwhile, a great deal of the new-build housing stock, built to replace the old, is being held off the market by investment companies. This is a particular problem with large apartment block projects. There are a lot of apartments around Manchester that have never been inhabited.

Population increase. It's been fudged somewhat, but the UK population has increased massively in the last 20 years. Something like 8.2 million officially, but more than 10 million in reality.

Then people are trying to find affordable housing by moving to the shitholes, which drives up the prices. The effect is magnified as you get closer to commuter corridors.

It also seems like everyone is on a house-buying spree at the moment, too, perhaps trying to lock in mortgages before the interest rates rocket up. The market is more volatile than an angry tinker at last orders, and just as likely to explode.

tl;dr too many people, not enough available housing.

 

[AbendCode12]

Imagine it.

- Absolutely massive MASSIVE demand destruction as whole sectors of the economy begin to layoff workers and families feeling the pinch eliminate all discretionary spending
- Housing crash. Soon you can buy a 500k house for 200k
- Bullwhip effect in durable goods triggers huge price cuts in retail
- (this is the big one) A massive surge in demand for dollars from other countries

*10 minutes later*

- Fed turns back on the tap
- Dollar demand fades as other countries reduce trade in dollars and reduce trade with dollars. Slowly, and then all at once.
- War economy will require massive money printing on top of QE (you think NATO is activating 300,000 troops for a picnic?)

Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride.

I'm sorry, but I still don't see it. I don't want to appear argumentative as this forum gives me plenty of insights from people who would otherwise be unable to speak up, but this focus is on housing.

Instead I'm looking at four main sectors of the economy:
1) rent
2) energy
3) fuel
4) food

Remove Ukrainian and Russian grain/energy production through embargo and we have lost how much of the world supply? Less supply causes prices to rise.
I don't see us being able to make up from that with local food production by overproducing. That's number 2 and 3 and 4.

What about rent? If housing prices collapse, surely rent will go down. But here's the thing, in 2007-9, the southern border of America wasn't seeing approx a million or more migrants a year walking across the border and being automatically given housing and welfare money. But that's where we are now.

There is little chance that housing goes down if the federal government is trying to get every foreigner in to the USA on free section 8 housing. And those are just illegal immigrants. Courts in the USA have ruled that there can't be a means test on legal immigrants preventing them from automatically acquiring public welfare checks and benefits, so the chances of them leaving are very, very small. They will also require housing. Before the pandemic, I think legal immigration to the USA was half a million a year.

Any temporary drop in housing prices will still mean demand is outstripping supply. Home ownership may go down, but rentals and leasing will go up unless the government plans to put the immigrants in tents, which isn't a good look for them as they are trying to encourage maximum immigration, legal or not. The powers that be want 1 billion americans (citizen or not) by 2060 or so.

So deflation? I'm still not seeing it.

 

[Beavis]

Deflation in things you don’t need (another 75” TV or Apple gadget) and inflation in things you need (food, energy, housing).