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im ok with gay characters tho pride parades and drag queens are not things to put onto children's media for sure
starborn427614
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What the absolute fuck does this have anything to do with a superhero team and their giant pillowy robot mascot?
Alter Ego
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Before anyone gets the wrong idea, realize that the intention is probably that the character is a transman (a woman) to push the notion that "men can have periods". It's not meant to be a dude lurking around the women's hygiene products.
Trannies aside, this video is still off-putting. My guess is that it's promotional material for the show that also doubles as a public service announcement to destigmatize the awkwardness of men having to fetch hygiene products for their wives or some such. But why is this a subject for a kid's show about a cuddly robot? Probably because of progressive interests to push sexual topics onto children younger and younger. Part of the “not-at-all-secret gay agenda” as that one producer/director said in the leaked internal Disney meeting.
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Personally, I would be willing to sacrifice that marginal demographic to temporary confusion, if it would ensure a lack of childrens cartoons about inflatable robots discussing tampons and troons.
MysticMisty
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Legit, it doesn't have to be some graphic explanation about buttsex and scissoring. All you have to say is some people have two moms or two dads (or one mom or dad and no other parent) and leave it at that. Or that some boys like other boys and some girls like other girls. Acknowledging that they exist so kids know that they're people too.
starborn427614
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Isn't the Baymax show just about him helping people with personal problems? It's not really Big Hero 6: II. Personally, that's why I haven't really had much interest in it.
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Don't you mean Thor 4?
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I did, my mistake.
I also heard spoilers were already out, but I didn't look for them.
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Odd to see they're doing another Big Hero 6 spinoff. Near as I can tell the show did alright and while not great was at least done with a sense of humour. They also got Stan Lee to do some of his last voicework and had some geninely interesting designs for characters.
Ah I see, it's 10-11 minute episodes. This is basically a webseries.
Ah I see, it's 10-11 minute episodes. This is basically a webseries.
Basic Blonde Boy
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Wanted to write here as I recently got to catch up on a few Pixar films thanks to my camp counselor job. The two films were Turning Red and Onward, both I had no interest in seeing prior, but hey, now I can say I have.
Onward - This movie was painfully mediocre. The best way to describe it is that it was always going to be a mediocre film. Most films I can usually point out the flaws and explain how it could be written better, but this, it felt fundamentally broken from the premise. The idea of two brothers bonding as they try to get back their father, with one realizing that their older brother was the father they never had was a good premise. The movie fails though by adding the magic element. The whole technology vs magic aspect did not get expanded on at all and overall killed much of the film's pacing. This film could have been told without magic as its best aspects have like nothing to do with it. The only big thing it adds is the father, but with a rewrite they could have probably done this with no magic by having the father be lost for years and they are travelling to find him. The legs really aren't a character.
This movie basically wanted to be Monster's University 2, which was already a pretty divisive film. Personally, Monster's University is my favorite Pixar film, it was a fun adventure that did a fantastic job building up to the massive gut punch, and had the best ending of any Pixar film. I think Onward would have been better if it was a non-magic adventure about two brothers looking for their father and they go through the whole film bonding with one brother wanting an adventure with the youngest to make him proud, and the other wanting to see the absent father for the first time. At the end it should be revealed that the father is dead, which builds up to the big wake up for the youngest that the eldest was there for him the entire time. It really could have worked as another MU style lesson of the world being cruel, but you can make the best of it. Overall, the magic got in the way of a sound plot to the point where it should have just been cut out entirely, leading to a weak emotional climax.
Turning Red - This film was a mixed bag. It felt like three films at once with one storyline being strong and having a good pay off, one storyline in the middle, and one that drags the film down hard. The film can be broken down into three conflicts: Puberty, becoming independent, and generational abuse. The later two are the only parts I see as having good, while the first was shit, so lets start with the first.
The puberty story is poorly handled and didn't gel with the rest of the film. The film talking about pads and thirst isn't bad, but the Panda allegory shit ruined the entire plot. Having the panda represent, or implied to represent, a young woman's changing body in a film where she exploits it for cash with merchandise and photos/video is worrisome. This is some pedo tier shit that is hopefully just piss poor writing. They probably should have left out this stuff.
The independence storyline is fine, just bogged down by the puberty weirdness. Mei growing distant from the mother was a decently handled plot as you got to see how much it hurt both characters. I think they went a little too hardcore on the mom in the beginning, but she ended up being fine by the end.
The final story is generational abuse, which I thought was handled well. None of the parties were evil, but the way of handling the children was seen as wrong and carried over from mother-daughter to mother-daughter. The idea of the women of the family holding the child to impossible standards to appease the parent before was pretty interesting. It made the mother more sympathetic when you see how strict her own mother is, showing how the characteristics are passed down. This all lead to a pretty good ending of realization.
The film would probably be among the best if it focused more on the family conflict weirdly enough. There is a very strong narrative regarding how the mother is trying to appease her own that seems too pushed aside to get much out of. A better version of Encanto where the strict standards have poor affects on the family and how they raise their children.
Onward - This movie was painfully mediocre. The best way to describe it is that it was always going to be a mediocre film. Most films I can usually point out the flaws and explain how it could be written better, but this, it felt fundamentally broken from the premise. The idea of two brothers bonding as they try to get back their father, with one realizing that their older brother was the father they never had was a good premise. The movie fails though by adding the magic element. The whole technology vs magic aspect did not get expanded on at all and overall killed much of the film's pacing. This film could have been told without magic as its best aspects have like nothing to do with it. The only big thing it adds is the father, but with a rewrite they could have probably done this with no magic by having the father be lost for years and they are travelling to find him. The legs really aren't a character.
This movie basically wanted to be Monster's University 2, which was already a pretty divisive film. Personally, Monster's University is my favorite Pixar film, it was a fun adventure that did a fantastic job building up to the massive gut punch, and had the best ending of any Pixar film. I think Onward would have been better if it was a non-magic adventure about two brothers looking for their father and they go through the whole film bonding with one brother wanting an adventure with the youngest to make him proud, and the other wanting to see the absent father for the first time. At the end it should be revealed that the father is dead, which builds up to the big wake up for the youngest that the eldest was there for him the entire time. It really could have worked as another MU style lesson of the world being cruel, but you can make the best of it. Overall, the magic got in the way of a sound plot to the point where it should have just been cut out entirely, leading to a weak emotional climax.
Turning Red - This film was a mixed bag. It felt like three films at once with one storyline being strong and having a good pay off, one storyline in the middle, and one that drags the film down hard. The film can be broken down into three conflicts: Puberty, becoming independent, and generational abuse. The later two are the only parts I see as having good, while the first was shit, so lets start with the first.
The puberty story is poorly handled and didn't gel with the rest of the film. The film talking about pads and thirst isn't bad, but the Panda allegory shit ruined the entire plot. Having the panda represent, or implied to represent, a young woman's changing body in a film where she exploits it for cash with merchandise and photos/video is worrisome. This is some pedo tier shit that is hopefully just piss poor writing. They probably should have left out this stuff.
The independence storyline is fine, just bogged down by the puberty weirdness. Mei growing distant from the mother was a decently handled plot as you got to see how much it hurt both characters. I think they went a little too hardcore on the mom in the beginning, but she ended up being fine by the end.
The final story is generational abuse, which I thought was handled well. None of the parties were evil, but the way of handling the children was seen as wrong and carried over from mother-daughter to mother-daughter. The idea of the women of the family holding the child to impossible standards to appease the parent before was pretty interesting. It made the mother more sympathetic when you see how strict her own mother is, showing how the characteristics are passed down. This all lead to a pretty good ending of realization.
The film would probably be among the best if it focused more on the family conflict weirdly enough. There is a very strong narrative regarding how the mother is trying to appease her own that seems too pushed aside to get much out of. A better version of Encanto where the strict standards have poor affects on the family and how they raise their children.
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This was made by either a autogynephile or radical feminist. No women I have ever meet in my life, from my mom, grandmothers, aunts, cousins, co-workers, etc, raves about tampons and pads. When I was a girl there was no stranger who helped me buy pads because it is a private matter and no person who is decent intrudes on a young woman's privacy unless asked. Not only that but almost every women on Earth hates her period nor wants to talk about it. It is gross and most women feel annoyed when their time of the month comes because that means having to waste 10-20 bucks on pads and tampons when they could be using that money on something else. I have no idea why autogynephiles and radical feminists have such a fetish for young girls having their periods but it is just fucking disgusting. First Turning Red now this. The ride never ends.
By the way Disney, no Aiden looks like that tranny. Nice unrealistic depiction.
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You're not a radfem, Jesus Christ.
Yeah I guess a man going into the store and asking which feminine hygiene products to buy for his adoptive daughter should be met with shame and scorn instead of suggestions. Fuck off.
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Show me instances where that happens. I work at a store. This never happens, ever. If a man is looking for pads for his daughter he asks a female store employee, not a random woman browsing the the tampon and pad section. Fuck off and go back to masturbating over little girls getting their periods Salon Fat.
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starborn427614
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Agreed on the Encanto comparison, I feel they could've gone a touch harder there with the generational trauma angle. I never saw Mei's panda thing being exploited for profit as weird though since it was for something as petty as tickets to see a boy band. Probably should've stuck to scenes outside of the bathroom, though.
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Literally no one gushes about pads and tampons. Menstruation brings out primal, ungodly degrees of emotion and rage in women and no one would be all chatty and "tee hee uwu" about it.
Your period shouldn't be taboo and more media needs to stress that it's natural. But it's not this cutesy female bonding ritual. It's a pain in the ass and is pretty gross on your worst day.
Anyway, creeper detected. Good thing I already fucking hated Big Hero Six.
Your period shouldn't be taboo and more media needs to stress that it's natural. But it's not this cutesy female bonding ritual. It's a pain in the ass and is pretty gross on your worst day.
Anyway, creeper detected. Good thing I already fucking hated Big Hero Six.
Basic Blonde Boy
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It is hard to understand what they wanted the panda to represent as they literally start with it being compared to getting a period and came as a result of Mei's thirst. The added "My Panda My Choice" only makes it worse. You could very easily see the panda as a young woman "expressing" herself in this scenes, which feels wrong. This is what I meant when I said the puberty narrative really hurts the main one as it feels like no one thought this through.
Honestly, I really love how they portrayed Mei's relationship with her mother. Unlike the Encanto grandma, we really see her actually take pride in her child past having an ability, and they seem to have a healthy relationship. Even the relationship between the mom and her own seems more healthy than anything in Encanto as that mother, for constantly scolding her child, jumped in right away to grab her daughter and save her during the giant panda scene. Turning Red really does feel like a family that wants what is best for the child, but lacks the parenting skills to do right for them. Encanto felt like a hierarchy in many ways, where the grandma needed to see her damage to help any of the family members.
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I actually watched both Turning Red and Encanto recently, I actually liked both movies although neither are great and both have some flaws.
In the case of Turning Red I liked how good of a job it does do in capturing 2002 and the novelty of watching a 2002 period piece, nothing in the movie stuck out to me as too egregious, I like that the dad character was portrayed positively, Encanto's emphasis on family stuck out to me as refreshingly non-Woke.
Now it is a problem in Turning Red that Mei doesn't really have an arc, instead it's all about accepting herself as who she already is, compare it to Lilo and Stitch which feels proto-Woke in it's own way with the life situation of the sisters feeling a lot more real and less "Disney" than what they were doing in the 90s, it was the 00s pushing itself as something distinct from the 90s.
But Stitch still has to learn and change and grow as a character, if the movie were made today he would remain gross and everything else would have to just learn to live with it.
But I can handle a little Woke if I feel like it isn't TOO bad, this fucking Baymax thing is a perfect example of Woke going too far, it's one of those things where you just know it when you see it when somehting goes too far.
In the case of Turning Red I liked how good of a job it does do in capturing 2002 and the novelty of watching a 2002 period piece, nothing in the movie stuck out to me as too egregious, I like that the dad character was portrayed positively, Encanto's emphasis on family stuck out to me as refreshingly non-Woke.
Now it is a problem in Turning Red that Mei doesn't really have an arc, instead it's all about accepting herself as who she already is, compare it to Lilo and Stitch which feels proto-Woke in it's own way with the life situation of the sisters feeling a lot more real and less "Disney" than what they were doing in the 90s, it was the 00s pushing itself as something distinct from the 90s.
But Stitch still has to learn and change and grow as a character, if the movie were made today he would remain gross and everything else would have to just learn to live with it.
But I can handle a little Woke if I feel like it isn't TOO bad, this fucking Baymax thing is a perfect example of Woke going too far, it's one of those things where you just know it when you see it when somehting goes too far.
There's a fair debate and discussion to be had about it, the trouble is we're not having any debate and discussion, Woke retards are barreling ahead and we get stuff like the Baymax scene.
Basic Blonde Boy
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Would disagree. Mei has a pretty good arc about learning to move away from her mother and to try more rebellious things, live even. Throughout the first half, Mei is completely tethered to her mother and her ideals, while her friends try to push her to be more normal for a girl her age. The panda creates a change in Mei where she learns to figure herself out and carve out her own desires. Mei’s arc then pivots to her struggle between the new person she is that was crafted by her experiences with her friends, and the old person she was serving her mother’s interests. This is echoed by her own mother at the end as we see that she struggled to remain her mother’s perfect child after she met the father. Mei did change throughout the film and it was about her accepting those changes as part of herself and her family needing to accept that the child will stray from the nest eventually.