Reading this thread and the replies to my previous question reaffirms my pro-choice stance, ultimately the downfall of the abortion debate is a failure in messaging. The narrative on abortion is controlled by people who, in response to pro-lifers decided treating fetuses like parasites was a good idea and not-at-all alienating. It doesn't help that Roe vs Wade is a foundation of sand for the abortion debate, but can the US ever get back to the point of federalized control at this point? I think a lot of these problems we have are going to be 'solved' in one way or another by the global depression we've been kicking down the road since 2008. It's coming people! Let the chips fall where they may.