General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Screw Danlon]

I present Schrodinger’s Trap - is it gay to like Tamaki?

 

[Rratcatcher]

If you have seen the panty flashes on Tamaki's 3D model, you will know it is exactly the same level of gay as any other trap.

At 1:24:38 Kiara talks about discovering that Gura, Fauna, unspecified "other members", and some random cashiers couldn't identify American currency.

Spoiler: relevant segment

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Jesus christ, Kiara, Fauna's Canadian, why are you acting like she should know lol. No defense for Gura or those zoomer cashiers, though....

 

[White Stone]

Fauna's Canadian

Is she? I have seen people spreading this fact around but never with evidences. Her roommate's YT account shows United State for her location. And as for her current self, the only possible hint was when she tried to sing the Canadian anthem... and got the lyrics wrong.

 

[Azchan]

Like 90% of the revenue is from Salome lmaooo.

Imagine the carry that makes even the top Niji members jealous.

Vox pulls a shitload of money too.

Tribalfag later.
Look at this sheep now.
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That was impressive.

At 1:24:38 Kiara talks about discovering that Gura, Fauna, unspecified "other members", and some random cashiers couldn't identify American currency.

Spoiler: relevant segment

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I assume that zoomers barely work with cash. They all pay by credit/debit card or using cash-apps so they dont know how change works. Its the same with Analog clocks. A large number of millenials and most zoomers can't tell the time on an analog clock, they need digital.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

It isn't tribalism if we both have the same oshi 5t3n0g0ph3r senpai.

True, but most of you 944 Husbandos are GONNA CARRY THAT GUNT in the end.

 

[Avokado]

 

[Ensok]

At 1:24:38 Kiara talks about discovering that Gura, Fauna, unspecified "other members", and some random cashiers couldn't identify American currency.

Spoiler: relevant segment

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50 cent pieces are fairly uncommon but it seems weird that any American wouldn't know the common four. It almost makes me wonder if she got some Sacagawea coins and Susan B. Anthony's from wherever she exchanged her money.

 

[Rratcatcher]

Is she? I have seen people spreading this fact around but never with evidences. Her roommate's YT account shows United State for her location. And as for her current self, the only possible hint was when she tried to sing the Canadian anthem... and got the lyrics wrong.

Have I been bamboozled? Though, I would say not knowing your county's anthem does not mean much of anything, to be fair. She doesn't even seem to know the lyrics to her own original song lmao.

Speaking of the Kirin, she is joining Moom in one of the flavor of the month games in a couple minutes. Rrats are abound that the queen of rrats may join them in-person at the owl's residence:

 

[Tor Lugosi]

based mumei, delaying her stream until Jim is done

 

[kukkia]

Page after page of Holo good niji bad, dogpiling on the couple resident nijiniggers
just rename the thread "Hololive General + Pippa"

I'll give you the same advice I gave to Scuttle: ignore the blatant Holofags and they'll burn themselves out and move on to freaking out about Welsh dudes or whatever Calli and/or Kiara is doing.

 

[Airihead]

Have I been bamboozled? Though, I would say not knowing your county's anthem does not mean much of anything, to be fair. She doesn't even seem to know the lyrics to her own original song lmao.

Speaking of the Kirin, she is joining Moom in one of the flavor of the month games in a couple minutes. Rrats are abound that the queen of rrats may join them in-person at the owl's residence:

What reason do we have to believe that Bae is gonna show to off collab?

 

[(iIivVvbBb-iIimMmvVv)]

Page after page of Holo good niji bad, dogpiling on the couple resident nijiniggers
just rename the thread "Hololive General + Pippa"

Spoiler: Not Tribalfagging I Swear, Typewriter-man

People criticize Hololive members regularly here. Calli and Chicken doomposting is a weekly meme at this point. I get where you are coming from, the odds are not in your favor of finding someone whose mainstay is Nijisanji here.

But I'll point out that, at least in these recent cases, Nijisanji is really not looking too hot. Vox's bizarre ASMR goes well beyond the spiciest shit anyone from any corpo has pulled (Hell, I don't think Canan goes that far minus the cam); and Finana is speedrunning toward controversy central (and I actually kind of like her, horny fish was a bit endearing until recently). Nijisanji clips and highlights are more than welcome, and there are pages (lost to time like tears in rain), that a good few, myself included, fangirled over Pomu doing something fun.

I've been playing a lot of catch-up with this thread recently, so I'm reading around 20-60 pages at a time. It creates a bit of perspective. A lot of tribalistic shit is going on, and it is substantially worse than it was back in the early 2000s. . . a whole new world from the hundreds. People need to chill. Either cool it with the moronic takes, or people need to grow their first layer of skin. It's like mild talk is spears around here recently.

If you have seen the panty flashes on Tamaki's 3D model, you will know it is exactly the same level of gay as any other trap.

Jesus christ, Kiara, Fauna's Canadian, why are you acting like she should know lol. No defense for Gura or those zoomer cashiers, though....

I have a sneaking suspician that Fauna is from the suburbs or countryside outside of NYC. She sounds like one of the milktoast accents NYrs have when they aren't full 'CAWFEE.'

I assume that zoomers barely work with cash.

They don't. Though, I will say that adapting to card has helped me out a lot in managing things. And, you can't really mug a pin number unless the dude wants to go full hostage with you. Cash is becoming more of a liability.

 

[Rratcatcher]

What reason do we have to believe that Bae is gonna show to off collab?

Literally none, which is why it is a rrat.

Sheep clip to make up for the bait:

 

[Thomas Talus]

I have a sneaking suspician that Fauna is from the suburbs or countryside outside of NYC. She sounds like one of the milktoast accents NYrs have when they aren't full 'CAWFEE.'

One of my personal rrats is that Fauna comes from an academic or otherwise highly-educated household, because she tends to be very precise in her enunciation and has a good-sized vocabulary ("vehicular homicide" being the first words that randomly popped into her head, etc.).

 

[Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus]

I have a sneaking suspician that Fauna is from the suburbs or countryside outside of NYC. She sounds like one of the milktoast accents NYrs have when they aren't full 'CAWFEE.'

For what it's worth she also rated these as S tier in her dessert tier. Looking them up when she talked about them they're evidenty fairly popular in NY and that area. They do also sell them where I live but I'd never heard of them before and had to go looking for them.

 

[Avokado]

https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1542562016032071681

https://www.gamerbraves.com/tower-of-fantasy-team-apologizes-after-caught-using-honkai-impact-3rd-assets-in-newest-pv/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/rp4lzm/tower_of_fantasy_was_caught_using_a_bot_that_copy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/u85we7/please_be_careful_with_tower_of_fantasy_explayer/

 

[Nolan Crush]

On the contrary, all arrows point to AnyColor having no such rule in place, and have never brought the hammer down for it.

For example, here is Gwelu and Noraneko discussing ideas on how to get younger Japanese people to vote:

Here is YashiKizu and Honhima cracking jokes at the expense of Joe Biden.

Here is a friendly conversation between Noraneko and Yousei Ide, a long-standing member of the Liberal Democrat Party, about food. Here is a former member of the Diet talking about Noraneko. Here is Toshihiro Koizumi, Mayor of Komoro City, interacting with Inui Toko.

If we are specifically talking 'Identity Politics' then I'll refer everyone to the post I made about all of JP's confirmed non-straight members. Those discussions occasionally discuss things like culture and acceptance and Japan's approach to society. Some members were very conscious of ensuring Melissa was always addressed correctly.

By comparison, Finana making a dumb tweet on her sub account honestly didn't even register to me as something someone would find inordinary. I didn't even anticipate this thread would bring it up at all (though I certainly should have), and was instead enjoying Millie do her YLYL challenge at the time.

Before I give my in depth analysis of the Feesh rant I just want to say that even if it was just the tweet I still think she deserves the criticism even in the context of NijiJp’s openness with politics. Getting people to vote, acceptance (especially in a xenophobic country like Japan) are important topics that can you good discussion and are things the everyday person can relate to. And I also imagine they were conversations handled well.

Contrast that with Finana’s tweet and stream rant where it’s just patronizingly criticizing people for using a word the way it was intended, a word the overwhelming majority of her audience doesn’t care about.

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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/vt/ Feeshposters are mixed on what the cause is. They seem equally split between her FFXIV friends, discord trannies (practically the same thing), and just Uki himself being a cause.
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Either way, Feesh needs to learn about the Euphemism Treadmill.
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It's never goddamn enough. People need to learn they give power to those words by reacting to them. The most effective method for defusing shit like this is Grey Rock strategy.


Based Baba.

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Put that euphemisms treadmill in the “Carlin was right jar”.
Now for a complete critical breakdown, keep in mind I still like Finana, even though this was really hard to watch.

Spoiler: Way to in depth analysis

1. “this shouldn’t have to be controversial” it appears Finana fell for the trap of Twitter being representative of the average person. LGBT Twitter isn’t representative of the average LGBT person, I should know because I’m bi and I don’t relate to these people at all. And so is that friend from the Calli drama (I’ll refer to him as John for future convenience) who said “well theres always bound to be one idiot among the group, her even addressing it is fucking retarded”.
2. “you don’t really describe someone like that” did Finana get selective memory loss, literally the way you describe the characters is “trap”. Also these are fictional characters. Feeling uncomfy is retarded, why should you care.
3. “it’s a common English word” the mental gymnastics you need to justify this ban while being aware of this is absurd.
4. I think her getting emotional and caring so much shows a problem with her. She’s too respectful and it ends up being weak-willed in a way, as in she’s willing to bend the knee to her friends and change her whole opinion on something because of something they said. She also basically got remorse for "bad opinions" in the past so she's trying to overcorrect by being patronizing af.
5. "I have a lot of friends who are transgender too" so do I, but I'm not changing my opinion on trap. Feesh, get some trans friends in the real world to get an idea of what people actually think. At least get some outside the Twitter bubble. I get it, you don't like your friends getting upset, but sometimes you shouldn't coddle them you should explain why it isn't a big deal. You're not helping them in the long-term, you're making them expect the world to coddle them.
6.. She also banned "futa". Though she said people used it incorrectly and for "gender term". Just hate them idea of "oh some people are using a word badly, let's ban it despite 90% of people using it correctly".
7. "I have to" you don't HAVE TO, you are not obligated to do shit.
8. That's the problem, it's not important, that's why people are mad at you rn. And educate others, man get off you're moral highground. I know you feel bad for past usage but christ almighty. Also she keeps saying it isn't used correctly but the thing she was upset about was when it was used correctly. Like bruh. No one even mentioned trans people wtf, it's not like the gacha characters were trans. At least then I'd get it
9. I think her opinion was emboldened because of all the support. Ofc they are, there's only 700 people there, it's likely the people watching live are big fans. https://playboard.co/en/video/ZBVNnMJsV_w . Though within 10 min the live count is down nearly 100.
10. "we [her and Uki] are both very serious about this kind of stuff" inb4 Uki comes out in a few days with the same take.
11. I think the craziest thing about all this "good ally" shit is that by falling in line you feel like you're helping trans people you're actually hurting them. Why do you think the rise in anti-LGBT sentiment in youth coincides with the rise of this ideologue idpol bs. It's because average people see this and they find it fucking annoying. And some of those people with see it all the time and think "this is everyone". I don't agree with it, but you're not helping trans-people by propagating this shit.
12. "I just want people to just say they're transgender I don't want to hear tthem to be called that" Okay, no one in chat is calling trans people traps. They aren't being called it, people say it, they are reminded of others calling them that, and then get upset because idk lack of ability to differentiate.
13. "I'm not even transgender either" this implies that if you were, you'd be more upset. I hate this delusional bubble. This is false consensus effect at it's finest. Surround yourself with people with a single certain opinion and get duped into believing it's the norm when it's the opposite.
14. "it's a really old word and people should move on from that now" does this person measure time in years since Twitter. Trap for anime isn't old, it started in the earlier 2000s. "we're in a place where we actually use the correct terms" holy fucking shit, shut up and stop being so condescending.
15. "I want to be a bit more vocal about these kind of things" next time make it something that matters. "I want to spread that" this isn't church, I didn't come here to be preached at.
16. "they don't try to learn the meaning of words" god the pompous hypocrisy

17. I think she does care, I think she does actually want to help change people's opinions. But it's just, so unnecessary and self-righteous. And comes off patronizing and pompous and arrogant.
18. This did not need to be 14 min long (last 2 min were talking about introversion and crying). It could've been 6 or 7, she repeats herself a lot.

Post-rant info:
59% like ratio, holy shit. Idk if I'll click dislike, I don't usually do that for small sections. And as painful as that was it was only 6% of stream.

What's more interesting is her latest stream also was lambasted.
78% like ratio.

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Moomer and Fauna's avatars constantly bobbing and bopping is really annoying.

 

[You're an idiot]

The retarded animosity that I read through in it's entirety just now isn't what I meant when I said earlier today that people should give their opinions and that it shouldn't be a problem lol.

Either cool it with the moronic takes, or people need to grow their first layer of skin. It's like mild talk is spears around here recently.

I think this is a based take to have. People simply don't know how to disagree, and it turns into cringe passive-aggressive stuff after a few posts.

For what it's worth she also rated these as S tier in her dessert tier. Looking them up when she talked about them they're evidenty fairly popular in NY and that area. They do also sell them where I live but I'd never heard of them before and had to go looking for them.

I had seriously never seen these in the entirety of my life until she rated them, so maybe there's some credibility to the 'northeast Fauna' theory?

@Nolan Crush
I leik ur post.
Seriously, I agree with all your points. I'm sure there are people here who agree with feesh, but I'm certainly not one of them. Well said.

 

[Piaiex]

One of my personal rrats is that Fauna comes from an academic or otherwise highly-educated household, because she tends to be very precise in her enunciation and has a good-sized vocabulary ("vehicular homicide" being the first words that randomly popped into her head, etc.).

Oh yeah, the way Fauna talks definitely makes her come off as intelligent and/or educated, or at least more so than the rest of HoloEN. She's a breath of fresh air for me, as I mainly watch Gura who can have some... exceptional moments. As for that coin fiasco that Kiara brought up, I'm really hoping the Canadian Fauna theory is true.

For what it's worth she also rated these as S tier in her dessert tier. Looking them up when she talked about them they're evidenty fairly popular in NY and that area. They do also sell them where I live but I'd never heard of them before and had to go looking for them.

These are commonplace in the south as well.