General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Analysing and criticising a business decision by an entertainer you like =/= seething or thinking she shouldn't make her own decisions
There's some of the latter, but come on.



Mooms doin some shots
The alcohol seems to be keeping her from going off on gimmicks or tangents, which is a boon for her singing lol.
 
Someone's addicted, but considering this game is based on Vampire Survivors it's not surprising.
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Also, with Kiara gaining a plot of land and a title with it, does that make it the start of the 4th reich?
 
Millie ends at 81 songs with one last out of context quote

"Your mom Canadian association"
I love to see the concern fags in Millie's chat lose. Don't they know that their oshi is pretty strong? lul
Oooh fresh meat welcome to the thread
tbf most of that Moona karaoke was prerecorded
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Also, with Kiara gaining a plot of land and a title with it, does that make it the start of the 4th reich?
Mein Fuhrer will bring the KFP to a new age. The time of the Takodachi's is over

Well Spice and Wolf is getting a new anime. But I haven't seen any news on if its a season 3, or a reboot. Just so long as they keep the aged up Holo design from the anime, and don't take inspiration from the LN, I'm happy. And to keep this vtuber related, I really wish boomer spider had an older looking model, her content looks great, but the avatar is off-putting.
Didn't know this till I read your post. You sir, just made my week

@Scuttle Any updates on Rosemi's arg you would like to share with the class?
 
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There's also the weird tax situation for streamers being self-employed so they get fucked on taxes.
Being self-employed is generally better tax wise (though in Japan you do get screwed a bit on health insurance). If you're a citizen of Eritrea or the US working abroad then it can be a problem (there's some tax credit for foreign earned income that doesn't apply). But also even corporate vtubers are generally independent contractors (see Calli's recent videos), so what difference would there be between that and full indie?
 
Just woke up to seeing the Kson news. The more and more I think about it, the less and less sense it makes. She's been doing really well recently, she's the 13th top superchat earner last month. And while I get that her rig probably costs a lot of money and that she probably wants to coast by a bit after being so creative on Hololive, why did she go to VShojo? Wouldn't she have to split her earnings with the company? And even then, the other members of VShojo are awful people. The only thing that makes sense to me is that she did it for Not-Rushia. But even then, if I was in her position, joining them is a hard sell to me.

I'm not sure if I heard it here or from her dedicated split thread in 4chan but she supposedly got fleeced when attempting to make her own merch. People underestimate how hard the behind the scenes work really is. She may have unfortunately made that exact mistake after leaving cover and decided that joining VShoujo would be better than trying to handle everything on her own. I do hope however that her contract is structured differently since VShoujo's split is different from Cover's since VS allows the streamer to keep all of their profits from streams but in return they take a waaay bigger bite from merch sales, something like 80% if the VShoujo threads are to be believed which is crazy to me especially knowing how profitable merchandising can be. There is one thing I do worry about although it might just be me being paranoid. Objectively speaking, Kson kinda failed with her move to being an indie since she not only lost a good chunk of her audience but her revenue from SC's as well. I wish her the best and Mikeneko too but if those two fail, I'm afraid that the other holo's might take it as confirmation that leaving Hololive is a bad idea and management might get even more leeway to bonk any dissent from the girls which is the last thing I want. The thought of some jackass manager telling Marine or Lamy to "do as your told or else you'll be gone and turn into Kson" fucking sickens me.
 
Kson is corpo now and Uto is on hiatus for personal stuff.

Give me suggestions of indies to watch?
Sounds like a good time to do an indie report

Clear is still going strong despite losing 3D models because v-katsu is shutting down. She has a flash merch sale that I missed and I am sad, but is creating a new 3D
- She covers rocket launches and is quite genki - JP only but many streams are of English rocket livestreams
- Recently put out two covers: DIVE, DEAD END

Ririsya music is still going strong, she dropped out of my rec. so I am catching up
- Fantastic singer and someone who Nolan might actually like. Also, talks slowly and has dedicated translators, some EN

Rei Tadano achieved her stretch goal so now she will have be on a billboard in Shinjuku for a week (very cool campaign that was not entirely $ focused)
- Genki streamer that is creative and tries lots and lots of things - JP and ENish
-Personally, I like her large project where she interviews streams from each 47 prefectures in Japan - Hokkaido (where I'll go if Beatani never comes back)​
Fairy Princess Ichika is now a U cup? She used to call herself an R cup. Anyways, she also fell out of my rec. so catching up
- She is really smart and sometimes plays recorder/flute concerts or song covers. She is a bit weird but in the most endeering way. JP and EN

Terumi is a full on GFE experience. Want Rushia but in English and no restrictions on fan content?
- She is the full menhera experience where you get more if you pay more/go down the discord+VT rabbit hole

Wanna watch some vtubers who I can't understand but are still fun?
Chimugi - Slug alien vtuber that is chill and has great vtuber assests
Maisaki Berry - She sings really well
Shell - She also sings really well
Nika - She runs a decent auto translate and was raided once by the thread prince which was fun
Kamishiro - do you like insane consistency and morning shows? Might be unironically the best vtuber for autists

Want some Phase Connect adject indies?
Tonya - Ayame's daughter that's also Korean and does similar streams but not hag - PC COLLAB
おじきちゃん&Reiny Ch - A duo channel, one is Japanese and the other is British. I think it's an interesting project - PC COLLAB

Also, check out the new song from an OG menhera turned clip gold with Roberu

Nana Asteria - australian with a very good voice, a bit of a dork

Onolumi - plays classic rpgs

Brienna - plays a bunch of older games

Aria Himeno - cute jp loli 2-view has been doing a ton of RingFit streams recently

Tsunderia (not indie) has some decent talent. I also follow a few other JP indies but they barely stream.


I feel like if Mel or Choco are still better off where they are at unless hololive gest too restrictive on them. But them joining another company might probably work out worse for them given how tribalistic fans are.
Choco loves to hang out with Holomem - SubaChocoLunaTan anyone?
Mel calls into all the birthday totsus - she creates roommate stuff if she wants something different.
Plus they can always roommate collab with KSON again.

Thanks for the indies - how did you find that sub 1k one?

in a sequel to Fubuki doing nyokinyokinykoinykoi, madlad decided to make the Gamers compilation of A Dance of Ice and Fire :story:
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Someone feed FBK!
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Rei Tadano achieved her stretch goal so now she will have be on a billboard in Shinjuku for a week (very cool campaign that was not entirely $ focused)
- Genki streamer that is creative and tries lots and lots of things - JP and ENish
-Personally, I like her large project where she interviews streams from each 47 prefectures in Japan - Hokkaido (where I'll go if Beatani never comes back)​
I'll second this, Rei is quite fun.

Unrelated, it seems like Lui, Laplus, and Salome will be doing iDOLM@STER Million Live anken streams.
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Huh Kson joined Vshojo as their head star on their JP branch will we see a three-way battle between the three largest Vtuber corpos in both the EN scene and JP scene?
As a numberfag there is no way vshojoJP can challenge either Hololive and Niji. KSON and NotRushia is not on the same level of viewership as Peko, Miko, Marine and any top holo or the Kuzuha, chinman and salome. They do get a lot of SC though.
 
@Scuttle Any updates on Rosemi's arg you would like to share with the class?
Only that there have been new developments since my last post. Newer steps have required steganography decoder techniques which implies that, whatever she's doing and wherever it leads to, she's put a lot of work into it. Because of this, though, I don't want to provide step solutions because it's clear she's worked hard and wants people to engage.

The whole thing is rife with references to Rosemi's favourite things, such as the company twitter account saying 'Happy Big Friday!' which is an Avoiding The Puddle reference, or the CEO of Angel Katrina's idol agency being called James Bosodvis (Bosovdis, Jim: 'Boss of this gym') referring to that gay porn scene.



Also, Salome secures her second sponsorship, this time with iM@S.
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Do we think that this is closer to what Fauna's real voice sounds like?
I think her streamer voice is very close to her real voice, but im just basing it on ASMR from years back.
The voices here sound a little lower, not as squeaky, but still comfy.
It also doesnt sound as low/forced as the Ara ara voice she uses for batsu

But then again, this is based from asmr from years ago, so there are factors that might come in like
- change in pitch due to aging
- change in sound due to her mic/set-up
- asmr goes for soft-spoken/whispering which may sound way different from normal speaking voice.
- voice acting a script might make one self-conscious of voice projection

here's some samples if you're interested
 
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