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Hey we're not all bad in California (Never forget about 40% of the votes here went to Trump) and no, I don't want to move to another state or are planning on it. I like living in the one of the most peak /out/doors places in the world and out of spite with all of the shithead progs here.
Here's hoping this can be reality.
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Now more than ever, Democrats need Hillary Clinton​

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Earlier this year, I co-authored a piece for The Wall Street Journal that argued that a perfect storm in the Democratic Party is making a once unfathomable scenario — a comeback for Hillary Clinton in 2024 — highly plausible.

Our reasoning was that President Biden’s low approval rating, doubt about his capacity to run again, Vice President Harris’s unpopularity, and the absence of another strong Democrat to lead the ticket have created a leadership vacuum within the party that only Clinton — as an experienced and politically savvy “change candidate” — can fill.

In light of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade — upending decades of precedent and revoking a constitutional right that American women have enjoyed for half a century — the case for Clinton’s candidacy is even clearer.

Regardless of one’s own political affiliation or opinion of Clinton, the country knows her as an experienced politician and a champion of women’s rights. From her declaration at the United Nations in 1995 that “women’s rights are human rights” to being the first woman nominated as a major party’s candidate for president in 2016, she offers the exact type of leadership that the Democratic Party desperately needs.

Whether or not party leaders will admit it, Democrats know that they need to move on from Biden if they want to stay in the White House in 2024 and — even more importantly — have a fighting chance at building a sufficient enough majority in Congress to advance any element of their agenda going forward, including, and especially, codifying abortion rights.

Put another way, the stakes are simply too high for Democrats to remain on this slowly sinking ship.

Democrats are headed for a blowout loss in November, even worse than in 1994 and 2010 — the two worst midterm election years for the party in recent history — when they lost 53 and 63 seats, respectively, per Gallup’s analysis of four key national mood indicators.

Indeed, Biden’s approval rating is lower than both Obama’s and Clinton’s at the same points in their presidencies, and Americans in 2022 are less satisfied with the direction of the country, more negative about the economy and more disapproving of Congress.

Polls generally show Republicans with a lead of at least 2 or 3 points in the 2022 generic vote for Congress. This advantage would likely give the GOP a solid majority in the House — considering the favorable Republican rulings in redistricting litigation in key states as well as the likelihood that Republican turnout will be even higher than most pollsters are currently accounting for.

While Biden was the right person to defeat former President Trump in 2020, he is clearly not the right person to lead the Democratic Party going forward — as only 36 percent of Democrats believe that Biden gives them the best chance to win the presidency in 2024, per recent polling.

To be sure, Democrats’ confidence in Biden will only decline further after the party experiences a shellacking in the midterm elections. These voters will be looking for a change candidate who is experienced, effective, savvy and committed to the issues they care most about — namely, women’s rights and civil rights.

At that point, Clinton will have a unique opportunity to position herself as an experienced candidate capable of leading Democrats on a more successful path who will also fight — as she has done her entire career — for women’s rights.

As John Ellis wrote this week, “The Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe vs. Wade creates the opening for Hillary Clinton to get out of stealth mode and start down the path toward declaring her candidacy for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination.”

Based on her latest public statements, it’s clear that Clinton not only recognizes her position as a potential front-runner but also is setting up a process to gauge whether or not she should pursue the presidency once more.

Repositioning herself in the national spotlight, Clinton spoke this week at the Aspen Ideas Festival and bashed the overturning of Roe v. Wade as “the most arrogant misreading of history in law that you could ever find” and a decision that is “rolling the clock back on our civil rights, our human rights.”

Moreover, in a separate interview earlier in the week, Clinton refused to rule out a 2024 run.

Aside from Clinton, the Democratic Party lacks any other rising stars who could take the torch from Biden — if he chooses not to run — and win in a general election. The most natural successor would be Harris. However, Harris is even more unpopular than Biden and would almost guarantee a Republican victory in 2024.

Further, Harris’s response to Roe being overturned missed the mark, as she was widely criticized for trying to make the case that abortion access will greatly impact America’s sons.

Ultimately, Clinton is the only prominent Democrat with the experience, the campaign infrastructure, the political know-how and the proven track record who can win a general election.

As Fox News Channel’s Juan Williams wrote earlier this week, “Democrats need a strong voice ready to fight to restore women’s rights, now that the Supreme Court has struck down Roe v. Wade. There’s only one Hillary Clinton.”

If Democrats want a chance at winning the presidency in 2024, Clinton is — now more than ever — their best chance.

Douglas E. Schoen is a political consultant who served as an adviser to former President Clinton and to the 2020 presidential campaign of Michael Bloomberg. He is the author of “The End of Democracy? Russia and China on the Rise and America in Retreat.”

It is time to acknowledge the truth. No matter how much we want to pretend it can't be, there is a faction - either in the Democratic Party, or just in the intelligensia - that is trying to astroturf a Hillary 2024 campaign into reality because they hate every other option. And that's fucking hilarious. That's probably the most glaring symptom of a leadership void in the Democratic Party that you could possibly ask for.

The fact that this drivel was written by a guy who worked for Hillary and then Bloomberg raises some eyebrows.
 
Missouri's pulling a real one.
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Im loving the constant dread in the lefty circles, 2 years ago they got a sigh of relief that orange man was back that everything was going to go BETTER with ADULTS in charge

Now they are doomposting hard about the return of Orange Man, and the recent events have upgraded their fears of "jajaja it cant happen right? i mean we won by a lot" to "he is totally coming back isnt?"
 
Here's hoping this can be reality.
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My only issue about this is their liquor store search sucks ass. And they do lotteries for rare shit. I don't want to have to win a lottery to get a bottle of Weller when I got my last bottle for $27, and I can drive down to Ashland to get another bottle for.. $27.
 
Hey we're not all bad in California (Never forget about 40% of the votes here went to Trump) and no, I don't want to move to another state or are planning on it. I like living in the one of the most peak /out/doors places in the world and out of spite with all of the shithead progs here.
I never realized 4/10 Californians voted for Trump. That's considerably higher than I would've imagined. That's gotta be the most "fortified" state out with nothing even close to real voting laws.. Kind of a white pill.
 
Nice. Now lets legislate publicly owned, open source vote counting software that is really easy to audit and more or less impossible to manipulate. This may be the ultimate use case for blockchains.
How about paper? Or maybe that plastic paper that doesn't get fucked up when the pipes break at 1AM.

Computers seem like the wrong direction for this.
 
How about paper? Or maybe that plastic paper that doesn't get fucked up when the pipes break at 1AM.

Computers seem like the wrong direction for this.
Paper can be counterfeit, modified, and destroyed. Poll watchers can be forced to watch from hundreds of feet away or flat out removed from the property while ballots are still being handled. Digital and paper records were destroyed on a criminally large scale. The 72 IQ black women controlling the vote counting have no problems throwing away or double scanning unencrypted paper ballots.

Anything that can be done to remove human interaction in the process while creating total transparency is probably the only sustainable long term option. If anyone cries foul for any reason, the unmanipulated data is totally accessible by anyone and not protected by copyright/patent law and/or the proprietor being in a foreign country.

I'm a big 10th amendment guy, but handing the federal election process totally over to the states just means that most states will have fair elections while a few with tons of electoral votes will be at the whim of the DNC.
 
Anything that can be done to remove human interaction in the process while creating total transparency is probably the only sustainable long term option.
Ohhh I really disagree with that. I think a paper ballot and a hand count are just fine. Put up cameras in the rooms so you can see the people counting and also put cameras over the desks of the people counting which have a clear view of the vote as it is counted. If you were to digitize or use computers for anything, I think the best place to do that would be with some sort of anonymized means of ensuring that votes counted are tied to votes cast, no more and no less.
 
I never realized 4/10 Californians voted for Trump. That's considerably higher than I would've imagined. That's gotta be the most "fortified" state out with nothing even close to real voting laws.. Kind of a white pill.
Every Left Coast state is like this. It's a few ultra-pozzed city states along the coastline setting the agenda for the suburbs and interior.
Jay Inslee hasn't ever won Washington by more than 10 points, as often as not it's closer to 5. Kate Brown hasn't ever won Oregon with more than a razor-thin margin.
 
Apple needs to sell their products at cost so I don’t have to pay so much for them.
And if they ARE selling them at cost, well, it's too expensive says the potato brained pedophile, and it's making him look bad, so Apple should sell them below cost for the good of his re-election.

So this time they'll quadruple down and stop asking. Gotcha. I'll feel sorry for you out here in Flyover country, Johnny.
They don't have to ask. There are only 3 electric grids in the country. If California uses more power than they should, the rest of the states on that grid can just get fucked, because there's no way the feds let Californiastan go dark. They can't have such an obvious example of Leftist policies failing.

Remember, they faked an power grid scandal (Enron) to get rid of a politician they didn't like.

My family is in one of those California-connected states and their power company just changed to a tiered pricing model, so that they can charge more during California peak hours and months. Their bill is already nearly double what it was last year, and we're not even getting to the time of year the mooches in California will be really sucking the grid dry. I'm trying to warn them that it won't be double in a few months, it'll be triple or higher, but, you know how it goes -- "But his tweets."

Even if Trump gets back in, he can't just cut them off or force them to reform. They wouldn't reform, for one, and for two, the Press would just go "Look what TRUMP DID to the COMPLETLY FUNCTIONAL state of California!"

Better get that pocket judge to call it racis-
Wait what?
You mean he died three years ago?
How unfortunate.
The consent decree, which formally prohibited Republicans from ever challenging leftist election engineering because muh racism.

Such a serious blow to the left that they have tried to put it in an as an amendment in every single bill they've tried to force through since.
 
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