Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

[Fuggalope]

Regarding Kage and his habit of picking up barely legal (or not quite legal) boys, there are certainly rumors around. Unlike most furry gossip, stories about Kage don't really get seem to make it out into the mainstream. I'm sure there are people who know things, but don't talk. And I imagine the man has very good opsec too.

I've been hearing the rumors about how Kage likes them young for at least 15 years now. It seems like most people have heard rumors, but nobody is certain, and so far there's no proof. For better or worse, he's still quite beloved in the fandom, but I feel that his welcome might be starting to wane a little. Troons and the woke are becoming more entrenched in con operations and old fags like Kage don't really fit in with their vision.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I've been hearing the rumors about how Kage likes them young for at least 15 years now. It seems like most people have heard rumors, but nobody is certain, and so far there's no proof.

The problem for anyone trying to get up on Kage's grill for liking late teens is that's a universal thing amongst faggots. It's an extremely open secret that gay guys, particularly older ones, like going for increasingly younger partners. Shit, the average age for first sexual experience among gays is 15, which means statistically half of them started younger than that, and I guarantee you the crushing majority of those did not have their first experience with a boy their age.

So trying to nail Kage to the cross for going for a 17 or even 16 year old is a big glass ceiling situation because there are way too many gays in the fandom who do the same shit. Add to it the fact he's more private than most and the callouts never stick.

 

[Athena's Biggest Fan]

You've provided literally zero evidence Kage is actually fucking this dragon fursuiter, let alone the fact it happened when he was underage.

If you've got proof, post it. Otherwise, I'd quit while you're still ahead.

Kage's relationship with Ronnie is one of the fandom's open secrets that no one talks about. Either because they don't really care or (more likely) no one wants to end up on Kage's bad side. He wields more power in the fandom than he really should.

That said, there's absolutely no evidence that their relationship started when Ronnie was underage, even with Kage's preference for younger LEGAL men being another one of his open secrets.

In the end, it's milk that isn't worth the effort given Kage does a decent job keeping his private life private.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

even if he is wise to letter-of-the-law not fuck/efuck someone before they're 18, he has no qualms about getting it on with people who are ripely of age and using his self-aggrandized 'status' to woo them beforehand. so the tl;dr is who cares about evidence

I doubt anyone would even care as long as he's smart enough to not touch minors.

There are (or were, at least) a lot of rumors circulating about Elliot too, and I somehow go into his FTP server that his security cameras automatically uploaded pictures to. There were like very young kids (4-6 years old I'd estimate) running around at like 3 AM when everyone else had gone home. Proof of anything? No. Creepy as fuck? Yes.

I assume there's a huge dark side of the fandom among older furries but their opsec is a sight better than the younger ones.

 

[Furry Troon]

He wields more power in the fandom than he really should.

Troons and the woke are becoming more entrenched in con operations and old fags like Kage don't really fit in with their vision.

I've spoken to some who've had involvement since the 2000s and they hate him. Including some AC board members. But the power is structured so they can't do much about it & there's staff like Giza who'll kiss his ass eternally. The macrophiles who aren't just about mass gore also hate him too after his defense of Aerys, given Aerys edgy talk about black n troon killing despite commissioning and sleeping with both groups. Macrophiles run most furry events.

I really don't think it'd be sleeping with an 18 y/o or edgy bedfellows that'd do him in though- just resurfacing his old mock-the-troon story hours would cause enough of a PR disaster that he'd need to step down from AC & be pressured out of speaking at any cons he'd be booked for until he's no longer booked for any.

 

[Sintharia]

I've spoken to some who've had involvement since the 2000s and they hate him. Including some AC board members. But the power is structured so they can't do much about it & there's staff like Giza who'll kiss his ass eternally. The macrophiles who aren't just about mass gore also hate him too after his defense of Aerys, given Aerys edgy talk about black n troon killing despite commissioning and sleeping with both groups. Macrophiles run most furry events.

I really don't think it'd be sleeping with an 18 y/o or edgy bedfellows that'd do him in though- just resurfacing his old mock-the-troon story hours would cause enough of a PR disaster that he'd need to step down from AC & be pressured out of speaking at any cons he'd be booked for until he's no longer booked for any.

All the evidence you have right now is "I heard." You have no receipts for any of this.

 

[Furry Troon]

All the evidence you have right now is "I heard." You have no receipts for any of this.

receipts for 'kage is rogue' above, scroll up. receipts for 'kage defends aerys' somewhere on this site in 2020 or 2021 or something, do a search for aerys.

receipts for my discussions with AC staff, unfortunately gone forever due to not renewing a google voice # I used for Telegram nor having 2fac enabled.

receipts for making-fun-of-troons story hours, I've gone on late night autistic searches for, but I've not been able to find them & I feel kage had the foresight to purge the VODs. they were on youtube at some point though and maybe still are.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

even with Kage's preference for younger LEGAL men being another one of his open secrets.

Rogue's macrophile.com site still shows the cub stories he, and other people who ran AC contributed to if you look through the Wayback Machine.

 

[The Atlantic Ocean]

That's "Rogue the Megawolf", (allegedly) his crush and macro fetish character. There's a website here (NSFW) containing art and stories of exactly that.

Not sure if anyone has ever conclusively connected the two, but it's been an ongoing "open secret" for at least 20 or so years now.

Here’s the video of him mentioning it:

I’m fond of the fact that he attended college with Kathy Rumer.

In fact he gave the whole of Ursinus College a view of his psyche way back in 1985 at the age of 20:

(https://digitalcommons.ursinus.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1127&context=lantern)

 

[Furry Troon]

I’m fond of the fact that he attended college with Kathy Rumer.

wait THE kathy rumer? he went to college with THE butcher of ardmore? THAT'S SO FUNNY

Also thanks for the vid where he just says it outright, that'll be useful

 

[Solid Snek]

The kind of proof that you require would be impossible for anyone to get. The closest one to Dr. Samuel Conway/Uncle Kage was Matt Davis/2 The Ranting Gryphon and not even he would turn on Kage if he had any past sex videos from their convention hotel rooms. As for the underage bit, look back at the convention videos and videos of Tien Long in Uncle Kage's home dating back over the years of the two together, but whatever, you don't have to be personally convinced that the two have been in a relationship. Maybe I'm wrong? Their friendship could be totally platonic, but because they're degenerate furries, that's highly doubtful there's no sex going on when Uncle Kage invites a fursuiter into his personal home and gets drunk with them.

Try this website if you find anything: https://archive.ph/

Take screenshots, too; some browsers have screencaps as a built-in feature, if not all major browsers have screencap extensions, and if all else fails you can hit PrtScr.


Goes without saying, but Kage is the highest profile furry of them all, and extra-careful about his degeneracy. IF you're not full of shit, and can prove that Kage has been banging underage kids, it'll be the biggest furhunt prize of your lifetime.

But only if you can find some proof.

Regarding Kage and his habit of picking up barely legal (or not quite legal) boys, there are certainly rumors around. Unlike most furry gossip, stories about Kage don't really get seem to make it out into the mainstream. I'm sure there are people who know things, but don't talk. And I imagine the man has very good opsec too.

I've been hearing the rumors about how Kage likes them young for at least 15 years now. It seems like most people have heard rumors, but nobody is certain, and so far there's no proof. For better or worse, he's still quite beloved in the fandom, but I feel that his welcome might be starting to wane a little. Troons and the woke are becoming more entrenched in con operations and old fags like Kage don't really fit in with their vision.

I haven't heard much grumbling about Kage from wokefurs, but they definitely hate 2, and openly threaten violence against oldfags in a way that would make even the most hardened EDiot shitposter blush. They have the loyalty of a pack of piranhas, and the moment Kage says something insufficiently bigoted, they will have his head on a pike.

The good (? good for him?) news is, Kage is a fag, and any kid he's diddling right now is likely to be an enbie genderspecial. Wokefurs won't mind that; if such a story comes to light, they'll circle the wagons and start attacking any transphobic terfnazi who speaks out against Kage.

If Kage gets caught with a girl, there will be blood. If Kage says "hey guys, maybe don't punch other furries?", there will be blood. But if Kage is caught with a gay Asian youngshit femboy, the wokefurs will rally to his side. It's possible, even likely, that Kage will fuck up eventually and get run out of town by his bastard grandchildren, but we cannot put too much trust in the wokefurs to do this.

 

[Icarus Aresane]

https://twitter.com/PatrickSnowyote/status/1543728204141264896?s=20&t=1wltOWz28luu7FnKmPhn2w

Furries: Scream all goddamn weekend about not feeling safe over tarkov guy and wanting more done for their safety

Also furries: sperging about the amount of police force present makes them feel uncomfortable and oppressed.

Ok

 

[Corn Flakes]

It's possible, even likely, that Kage will fuck up eventually and get run out of town by his bastard grandchildren, but we cannot put too much trust in the wokefurs to do this.

I think Kage is just not registering on most younger furries' radars simply because he doesn't have that big an online presence. His twitter feed is 75% retweets, 25% inoffensive bullshit. And he clocks at around 900 tweets a year on average. That's less than 3 per day, most of them mindless retweets or simple replies. Not even a blip compared to shitstains like my personal favorite furry lolcow Strype. And what little original content he does post there is basically either "I like to drink a lot" or "did you know I'm a scientist?". He's clearly more about talking to people directly and getting things organized like that, rather than trying to build up and wield a huge following, and so he's got fewer followers than many of the artists that peddle their wares at the conventions he runs/attends.

And even if he did get run out of town... the dude is fucking 57 years old already. For one, he's not running out of town, he's drunkenly waddling. For two, he's had such a long career herding cats that losing relevance might actually be good for him. It would certainly leave him with more free time to finish pickling his liver in peace. But in all seriousness, he's from an age where people spoke directly, and so are a lot of his associates, and he always preached against oversharing sexual shit. Being canceled might result in him losing invitations to be guest of honor, but he'll still have most of his circle of friends and indirectly most of his clout. Not being as terminally online as the rest of the fandom has benefits most don't seem to understand.

 

[Spoonomancer]

https://twitter.com/PatrickSnowyote/status/1543728204141264896?s=20&t=1wltOWz28luu7FnKmPhn2w

Furries: Scream all goddamn weekend about not feeling safe over tarkov guy and wanting more done for their safety

Also furries: sperging about the amount of police force present makes them feel uncomfortable and oppressed.

Ok

oh, you know. They felt so unsafe that they will be going back to the convention next year even if nothing has changed.

 

[Solid Snek]

I think Kage is just not registering on most younger furries' radars simply because he doesn't have that big an online presence. His twitter feed is 75% retweets, 25% inoffensive bullshit. And he clocks at around 900 tweets a year on average. That's less than 3 per day, most of them mindless retweets or simple replies. Not even a blip compared to shitstains like my personal favorite furry lolcow Strype. And what little original content he does post there is basically either "I like to drink a lot" or "did you know I'm a scientist?". He's clearly more about talking to people directly and getting things organized like that, rather than trying to build up and wield a huge following, and so he's got fewer followers than many of the artists that peddle their wares at the conventions he runs/attends.

And even if he did get run out of town... the dude is fucking 57 years old already. For one, he's not running out of town, he's drunkenly waddling. For two, he's had such a long career herding cats that losing relevance might actually be good for him. It would certainly leave him with more free time to finish pickling his liver in peace. But in all seriousness, he's from an age where people spoke directly, and so are a lot of his associates, and he always preached against oversharing sexual shit. Being canceled might result in him losing invitations to be guest of honor, but he'll still have most of his circle of friends and indirectly most of his clout. Not being as terminally online as the rest of the fandom has benefits most don't seem to understand.

True, but Kage is not JUST a mild mannered furry cat-herder. It'd be easy enough for him to be just another nameless furry who organizes things behind the scene, but he's always relished that role, and relished being seen as the guy who fills that role. He's like King Humblebrag; "I'm not saying I'm the most important furry on earth or anything, Buuuutttt..."

While Kage won't die if he gets furry-cancelled, I don't think he'd be able to just walk it off like nothing happened. It wouldn't be just the online stuff he'd lose (which you're right, he'd probably be better off without), he'd also lose access to the con scene, which as @Fuggalope points out, is becoming increasingly infested with wokefurs. That would be an issue for him.

He'd still have some friends (at least privately), and he may even be able to weather controversy enough to remain a major part of AC, even in the face of a 2-tier scandal. But he'd lose access to much of the furry world, and - most importantly - to the young furry gaybutt he craves. Kage's inner circle aren't getting any younger; if he stops being "hip with the kids", he'll have nothing left but the pickled liver.

 

[JethroTullamore]

https://twitter.com/PatrickSnowyote/status/1543728204141264896?s=20&t=1wltOWz28luu7FnKmPhn2w

Furries: Scream all goddamn weekend about not feeling safe over tarkov guy and wanting more done for their safety

Also furries: sperging about the amount of police force present makes them feel uncomfortable and oppressed.

Ok

What is their proposed solution, a cop in a fursuit? Oh no wait that’s scary too, because cop.

I’d bet good money the city police are in a Union that has an in with the convention center and anyone who rents it out has to temporarily hire a certain amount of them (at a stupid high hourly rate) just to be there and mostly do nothing.

It’s probably the most hilarious overtime they get.

 

[Corn Flakes]

True, but Kage is not JUST a mild mannered furry cat-herder. It'd be easy enough for him to be just another nameless furry who organizes things behind the scene, but he's always relished that role, and relished being seen as the guy who fills that role. He's like King Humblebrag; "I'm not saying I'm the most important furry on earth or anything, Buuuutttt..."

While Kage won't die if he gets furry-cancelled, I don't think he'd be able to just walk it off like nothing happened. It wouldn't be just the online stuff he'd lose (which you're right, he'd probably be better off without), he'd also lose access to the con scene, which as @Fuggalope points out, is becoming increasingly infested with wokefurs. That would be an issue for him.

He'd still have some friends (at least privately), and he may even be able to weather controversy enough to remain a major part of AC, even in the face of a 2-tier scandal. But he'd lose access to much of the furry world, and - most importantly - to the young furry gaybutt he craves. Kage's inner circle aren't getting any younger; if he stops being "hip with the kids", he'll have nothing left but the pickled liver.

Oh, absolutely. A full canceling would be very bad for Mr. Conway overall, I was just pointing out it wouldn't be quite as bad as it is for artists or your average no-marketable-skills furry "influencer".

Anyhow, unless Kage managed to say something so incredibly hideous as to get him banned from conventions (maybe he implies Donald Trump might have been right about anything), being canceled would lose him special guest privileges but he would still be able to attend as a regular guest. Which doesn't carry the same glamour, but he's no stranger to it. And if even washed-up celebrities still get to coast on their reputation for decades after striking any kind of success, I'm sure Mr. Pickled Liver would still find enough young furry ass to keep him busy simply by dint of being Uncle Kage.

We'll only know if it actually happens, of course. Which is what's so frustrating about this guy. He's been around as a public figure for 20+ years, and he's an old-school furry. He's definitely got a bunch of skeletons in his closet, but he's good enough at opsec that no one really has anything really bombastic on him. Even old videos don't really stick because he will readily admit to being wrong and change the subject. It's like trying to nail jello to a wall.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

young furry gaybutt

I knew I picked the wrong username.

 

[Shaka Brah]

We'll only know if it actually happens, of course. Which is what's so frustrating about this guy. He's been around as a public figure for 20+ years, and he's an old-school furry. He's definitely got a bunch of skeletons in his closet, but he's good enough at opsec that no one really has anything really bombastic on him. Even old videos don't really stick because he will readily admit to being wrong and change the subject. It's like trying to nail jello to a wall.

Kiwi Farms is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to historical lolcows because nobody was there during the BBS and IRC days to record their antics. A lot of quintessential early speculative fiction/nerd con people are mostly lost to history because of that.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

We'll only know if it actually happens, of course. Which is what's so frustrating about this guy. He's been around as a public figure for 20+ years, and he's an old-school furry. He's definitely got a bunch of skeletons in his closet, but he's good enough at opsec that no one really has anything really bombastic on him. Even old videos don't really stick because he will readily admit to being wrong and change the subject. It's like trying to nail jello to a wall.

The thing with Kage is that he really doesn't have "good opsec" because allegations have been around for decades. The thing with Kage is he's cultivated a following of ass patters, so that he doesn't need to respond to anything because as soon as someone brings up an allegation, there will a metric ton of furries that will immediately jump up and demand proof. Take the whole Kage is Rogue thing. There's still people in the fandom that will claim nope, he's not Rogue, almost like it's some funny inside joke, but still, the denial is there.

Kiwi Farms is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to historical lolcows because nobody was there during the BBS and IRC days to record their antics. A lot of quintessential early speculative fiction/nerd con people are mostly lost to history because of that.

A lot of the old furry bulletin board stuff, like alt.fan.furry, is still all archived, it's just a tough dive to go through all of it, but there's stuff there. Just looking at the drama from the late 90s on that site indicates the old guard furry was just as retarded as the current crop, however there was a general idea that really iffy stuff would be kept close instead of broadcasting like today. Old furry sites that from web 1.0 are still around, and for instance, a lot of them contain zoo links matter of factly put right next to regular furry links.

The real treasure would be a leak from macrophile.com's private messages. That would most likely unlock a lot of information.

I do agree though, there are some amazing lolcows in the old fandom. I mean following someone like Jim Groat around all day, today, would be as entertaining as any of the others.