DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[AckedyAckTheThird]

Hearing DSP talk about lag in SF so much and how he would dominate Gojitenks offline, I remembered DSP played a series of ahfline matches against John Rambo. I found the playlist, and they played 53 matches. I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty impressed. Admittedly, Phil gave John a shitty controller and John had an arm injury, but even taking these things into account... Phil won 23 of the 53 matches. That's like... almost half. You must have been an amazing player Phil.

You suck and always have sucked at the only thing you ever claimed to have achieved and been good at in your life, Phil. You have 0 talent, and I really don't know if that's a life worth living. I can't imagine it is. But if we consider spending wheelchair money on a gatcha mobile game full of sweaty men jpgs a talent, you're top dog in that category, no doubt about it.

 

[Yung Dalph]

And per your remark about the lack of gay ops being lame but us celebrating shitty streamers and content creators, we're not. There are no decent DSP content creators anymore. They either all left, forgot why editing him down to sub 20 minutes made him funny, or went the absolute latest route of doing what DSP does and turning on the stream and sitting in front of a camera rambling and waiting for money. You know who likes those guys? The seething wings trolls types, the redditors and casual cow enthusiasts. If you care and follow along they never know their shit and it just wastes more time than watching raw somehow.

I might be missing something, but what are these "decent" content creators you're on about? Who dis? Soma Julius Cruz? Literal clip channels that's just a bit of DSP's stream cut off? Memology's repetitive editing and samey clips?

The new guys at least got some personality and style and talk about Phil in their own way. Yea, they sperg out, ramble and don't know their shit, but they don't really have to. What they're there to do is hang out with people and shit on DSP and that's perfectly valid.

The "decent" creators were clip channels with mid tier editing at best, unless we talk about the once in a blue moon ElDeEsRee video or Secret limited. I think you got the impression of some fantasy time where DSP troll content was this great entertainment medium, and not DSP clips with other random clips cut inbetween. The SOK were a bunch of circle jerking kids that got exposed, Tevin falls into the latter category of "waiting for money". What else am I missing? What is the Golden age content? And why are they gone? Because the DSP shit is all the same and more boring, and clips don't cut it anymore. Viewers tune in to people with personalities who make DSP more entertaining or even bearable.

I've kept up with some of them like Shinko and Peace since the origin of their channels and they just seem like nice dudes who you can watch DSP together with. Obviously the Supercrazies and James The Lesser of the world still exist and they always will. I don't know how you got the impression of them "waiting for money" but I am yet to hear a single one of the restreamers imply they should get money or ask for it, so in that regard you're simply wrong. It's absolutely up to the people watching them to decide.

I'd actually think that people like Call of Doody are exploitative way more than the restreamers. Just terrible quality videos, 0 personality or style, visually they are unwatchable and plastered with ads. They also come up with multiple of them daily.

As for the gay ops, I agree with you . If you want to organize gay shit, go in some degenerate private discord where you're gonna get extorted for money by Almighty Nigga or some shit and keep the farms clear from that nonsense.

 

[Null]

I just wanted to add a few more easy ideas:

Call twirls & twirls and pretend to be phil and reschedule/cancel his appointments. Also change the phone number they have on file for him so he won't be auto notified of the updates.

Send him fake psn/Xbox live gift card numbers. He'll have to waste time typing them in just to find out they're fake.

Send any contractors who do free estimates to his house - bathroom remodelers, pest control, ac installers, etc. Maybe try sending them to the condo association directly also and use Phil's contact info so the property managers or whatever think phil sent them and they'll contact him to figure out whats going on.

come on dude

okay sending Phil empty gift cards is funny but do not bother other people.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

I might be missing something, but what are these "decent" content creators you're on about? Who dis? Soma Julius Cruz? Literal clip channels that's just a bit of DSP's stream cut off? Memology's repetitive editing and samey clips?

The new guys at least got some personality and style and talk about Phil in their own way. Yea, they sperg out, ramble and don't know their shit, but they don't really have to. What they're there to do is hang out with people and shit on DSP and that's perfectly valid.

The "decent" creators were clip channels with mid tier editing at best, unless we talk about the once in a blue moon ElDeEsRee video or Secret limited. I think you got the impression of some fantasy time where DSP troll content was this great entertainment medium, and not DSP clips with other random clips cut inbetween. The SOK were a bunch of circle jerking kids that got exposed, Tevin falls into the latter category of "waiting for money". What else am I missing? What is the Golden age content? And why are they gone? Because the DSP shit is all the same and more boring, and clips don't cut it anymore. Viewers tune in to people with personalities who make DSP more entertaining or even bearable.

I've kept up with some of them like Shinko and Peace since the origin of their channels and they just seem like nice dudes who you can watch DSP together with.

I'd actually think that people like Call of Doody are exploitative way more than the restreamers. Just terrible quality videos, 0 personality or style, visually they are unwatchable and plastered with ads. They also come up with multiple of them daily.

As for the gay ops, I agree with you . If you want to organize gay shit, go in some degenerate private discord where you're gonna get extorted for money by Almighty Nigga or some shit and keep the farms clear from that nonsense.

When I say good creators, I mean the reason this guy has more posts about him than any other cow. The pure digestibility of classic tihydp. They're fun, short, highly condensed, don't have clickbait titles like call of doody, they're not just straight clippers (even our clippers are shit, there's so little care in what is left in or cut out so it's over long and misses core things), memology was never good, Soma is fine from time to time, lesser at you get closer to now. I don't want someone to watch DSP with, he puts out so much content that's not fun, interesting, useful, or frankly watchable. These guys don't do much if anything to make it more watchable, they're just company. They're para social interactions with DSP unfiltered as the entree except you have to listen to their sub and donate shoutouts, their rants, and so you can't even get a great quality listen to when DSP is putting his foot in his mouth. SoK era and prior had some of the best DSP content. What I've learned since is pretty much every single DSP content creator has autism or something and is just clever enough to make a buck off of it. Fine, that's fair and not my business. SoK isn't unique then in the tism, just that it was drug out so publicly because it was funny drama also. They became the news instead of reporting it. Ego and idealism over autistic stuff split an otherwise whatever group but you wouldn't be capable of being as gay as they got if you weren't retarded enough to be doing what all these people do to begin with. It's similar with how all celebrities are mentally fucked up.

I stand firm that if a channel put out a ten or do minute best fails of the week, not about his personal drama or lies or speculating, just games plus everyday a YouTube short of a quick fail from the prior day they'd earn gangbusters. But I mean. Could always just restream and shake the tip cup while you watch DSP do it or worse be like Tevin and seethe for years creating an entire wave of eager dummies who endlessly troll tip him inside jokes, sub to his channel to talk in chat, accept gifted subs giving him money, spam reports so systems set him as a protected account that needs manually reviewed reports to actually act which causes a bias in the manual report reviewer to lean towards DSP when reviewing it because they know he's getting a bunch of illegitimate reports. (This last one is pretty common knowledge in takedown groups, discovered first on Facebook then Twitter and finally YouTube/twitch). But they can't wait till he's actually clearly broken the rules and it hurts their own cause. A great example is people here salivating over reporting him on twitters new rule pertaining to tips but it's specific to Twitter transactions called tips and no doubt there's already been 30 new reports against him regardless making it harder to get him legitimately reported later.

come on dude

okay sending Phil empty gift cards is funny but do not bother other people.

For anyone in doubt of what I said above, here's the proof. Stop fucking around with autistic shit. If Phil breaks rules he's fair game but including other people or manufacturing scenarios to punish him is just retarded. This subforum has slid towards encouraged trolling for two years now with the huge flood of new members since covid. That isn't the way here. Stop encouraging Dent-tractors who help Phil and make his crazy claims truer.

 

[Yung Dalph]

LMFAO if you think gaming fails is what will bring people around. This shit is about DSP's personal drama, not gaming shit and 90% of viewers care about that. I feel your nostalgia for the more gaming-based trolling content but it's a bygone era that's not coming back and gaming vids and TIHYPs are not meta anymore. Gaming isn't even DSP's focal point.

Seems to me you're out of touch with what people actually seek out and are interested in watching, and bad gameplay is definitely not it.

 

[Free Jasper]

“For anyone in doubt of what I said above, here's the proof”

Is it though? You were saying things like;

“If you want a dog, find a gay op discord server”

whereas Null was just saying ‘come on, don’t be a dick and cost other people time/money while you’re trolling Phil.’

Dunno, I’m relatively new compared to you and maybe I need a slap round the head but part of the appeal of the board is all the different flavours of autism. I can consider, pick and debate the ones I want to. An individual telling users how to behave is one of the reasons we despise pigroach.

 

[TurdFondler]

I think it would be a total own to DSP if @Yung Dalph killed himself and blamed Phil's wagequitting or not hitting a members goal. I don't know if DSP could ever recover from such a masterful plan.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

“For anyone in doubt of what I said above, here's the proof”

Is it though? You were saying things like;

“If you want a dog, find a gay op discord server”

whereas Null was just saying ‘come on, don’t be a dick and cost other people time/money while you’re trolling Phil.’

Dunno, I’m relatively new compared to you and maybe I need a slap round the head but part of the appeal of the board is all the different flavours of autism. I can consider, pick and debate the ones I want to. An individual telling users how to behave is one of the reasons we despise pigroach.

Null has taken pretty clear action in the past against trolls and the culture has always been to discourage trolling and gay ops in general. In the same breath that he says "don't include other people" he or another mod have also deleted a few posts from around page 2132 pertaining to encouraging trolling and ideas.
This is also a thing, and really still stands true today as far as sentiment.
Lastly at the bottom of every page it says pretty clearly, no trolling plans. As he says in the post above people who do this shit always embarrass the forums. If you're going to do shit it doesn't happen via bitching and twiddling fingers here. You go do it or you're not but the plethora of sackless fags wishing loudly hoping to inspire someone else to glory is just embarrassing.
It might do you good to look at Null's history with the Chris-chan trolls and the stances he took then, going so far as to create an informal alliance to keep retards out since every cow has those who seethe because they think their specific cow is literally Hitler2 and karma just isn't striking hard or soon enough so they MUST take it into their own hands, their firm hands of justice incarnate. The more you think about any action you might do the gayer it sounds. Stupid pranks are different from literal trolling and Null said that with the addition of mentioning not to waste someone else's time. You mention you're new but you're asking questions and having debate, that is the sign of a good long term user. The key takeaway here is to remember. DSP is called the Autism Vortex. He's like a black hole attracting autism. So while you're pretty clearly a very moderate person on this topic, don't forget that for every reasonable person there's several ready and willing to do cringey teenage shit. When I went at the Wings troll discords one of the things I discovered quickly was that many of those dudes sitting in the discord day in day out repeating the same handful of fucking things about pepsi, wendy's chili, and big ups were stupid kids. It's easy to assume that everyone posting here is a reasonable person like yourself and adding to that, the least mature say the fewest words not out of brevity through wit but brevity from immaturity but we all give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Once you've seen the xbox live arcade squeakers behind the curtain you can't ever unsee how many are prominent in the trolling communities and have accounts here. One guy who's pretty active here and in this subforum's chat talked about Filthy Frank being childhood memories to him.

 

[Anal birth]

@Si vis pacem para bellum This subforum exploded in popularity as a result of the bankruptcy arc, in particular the hearing. It has nothing to do with TIHYDP. At best we have all encountered a TIHYDP vid, but the point you're attempting to make is just incorrect.

 

[Yung Dalph]

I think it would be a total own to DSP if @Yung Dalph killed himself and blamed Phil's wagequitting or not hitting a members goal. I don't know if DSP could ever recover from such a masterful plan.

If I go and it's my choice I'm definitely taking DarkSyde to the DarkSyde with me so yall niggas can have something to talk about

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

@Si vis pacem para bellum This subforum exploded in popularity as a result of the bankruptcy arc, in particular the hearing. It has nothing to do with TIHYDP. At best we have all encountered a TIHYDP vid, but the point you're attempting to make is just incorrect.

You're absolutely wrong, the vast majority of the subforum's posts would have occurred post-bankruptcy if what you were saying is true but instead we were already verging on new thread territory. The thing about it is, this forum in general has been booming in population. If you've been listening to null the population has been experiencing yearly booms, moreso with internet ongoings shoving more normal people into the alleys. I'm sure every single DSP event has brought tons more to the forum but DSP has been well watched here since the SoK days and I would just sit here and see people share and comment on the newest TIHYDP then. Pages of it even at a time. Now the best we have is disjointed conversation about this or that throwaway lie he said that he won't even remember and isn't important to him long term in the least. I'll take the moment to note I was warned an hour or so ago that some DSP content creator's circlejerk discord linked to my post from earlier so if we see more white knighting that's why. You can always tell someone's new because they have their sticker alerts on and think they mean shit, so these people will link your post and it just gets brigaded by their dickriders. When I used to point out where Tevin was calling people to arms and celebrating people troll tipping DSP I would get slapped with all kinds of buttflustered stickers.

 

[Anal birth]

You're absolutely wrong, the vast majority of the subforum's posts would have occurred post-bankruptcy if what you were saying is true but instead we were already verging on new thread territory. The thing about it is, this forum in general has been booming in population. If you've been listening to null the population has been experiencing yearly booms, moreso with internet ongoings shoving more normal people into the alleys. I'm sure every single DSP event has brought tons more to the forum but DSP has been well watched here since the SoK days and I would just sit here and see people share and comment on the newest TIHYDP then. Pages of it even at a time. Now the best we have is disjointed conversation about this or that throwaway lie he said that he won't even remember and isn't important to him long term in the least. I'll take the moment to note I was warned an hour or so ago that some DSP content creator's circlejerk discord linked to my post from earlier so if we see more white knighting that's why. You can always tell someone's new because they have their sticker alerts on and think they mean shit, so these people will link your post and it just gets brigaded by their dickriders. When I used to point out where Tevin was calling people to arms and celebrating people troll tipping DSP I would get slapped with all kinds of buttflustered stickers.

We're in a new thread numbnuts.

We've gone through approx 7000 pages in the last two years (i.e. since the hearing).

In total the DSP general is at approx. 12,000 pages over just under 10 years. When more than half of them happen in the last two years, that kinda implies that something big happened.

You can deny it all you want. It doesn't stop it from being true.

 

[Gramh]

Null has taken pretty clear action in the past against trolls and the culture has always been to discourage trolling and gay ops in general. In the same breath that he says "don't include other people" he or another mod have also deleted a few posts from around page 2132 pertaining to encouraging trolling and ideas.
This is also a thing, and really still stands true today as far as sentiment.
Lastly at the bottom of every page it says pretty clearly, no trolling plans. As he says in the post above people who do this shit always embarrass the forums. If you're going to do shit it doesn't happen via bitching and twiddling fingers here. You go do it or you're not but the plethora of sackless fags wishing loudly hoping to inspire someone else to glory is just embarrassing.
It might do you good to look at Null's history with the Chris-chan trolls and the stances he took then, going so far as to create an informal alliance to keep retards out since every cow has those who seethe because they think their specific cow is literally Hitler2 and karma just isn't striking hard or soon enough so they MUST take it into their own hands, their firm hands of justice incarnate. The more you think about any action you might do the gayer it sounds. Stupid pranks are different from literal trolling and Null said that with the addition of mentioning not to waste someone else's time. You mention you're new but you're asking questions and having debate, that is the sign of a good long term user. The key takeaway here is to remember. DSP is called the Autism Vortex. He's like a black hole attracting autism. So while you're pretty clearly a very moderate person on this topic, don't forget that for every reasonable person there's several ready and willing to do cringey teenage shit. When I went at the Wings troll discords one of the things I discovered quickly was that many of those dudes sitting in the discord day in day out repeating the same handful of fucking things about pepsi, wendy's chili, and big ups were stupid kids. It's easy to assume that everyone posting here is a reasonable person like yourself and adding to that, the least mature say the fewest words not out of brevity through wit but brevity from immaturity but we all give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Once you've seen the xbox live arcade squeakers behind the curtain you can't ever unsee how many are prominent in the trolling communities and have accounts here. One guy who's pretty active here and in this subforum's chat talked about Filthy Frank being childhood memories to him.

DSP's gameplay has become the least interesting thing about him though, by his own design because he's been avoiding anything that classically made his gameplay experiences funny. I'm not encouraging "le sick and epic trolling" because he's made himself almost immune to it without one of a handful of authority figures in his life (IRS, Youtube, Paypal) cutting ties with him and you're absolutely right that the idiots who act before they think and have spammed those sources with the DSP equivalent of "juuuulaayy", but all that's really left to laugh about is the absolutely insane cult mentality that he's drilled into his audience to save what little is left of his ego. Snipping out the segments of "we were always at war with Eurasia" style lies he tells to his fanbase is probably the only content anyone could make of him anymore. It's not unbelievable to think that considering how long this track has been going some have wondered how someone so shameless wouldn't attract Wings level trolling or want to see that happen in this case in consideration of the shift in DSP content in general. But it's not something to advocate for either, because relatively the effort will have to be greater than the payoff and you either do the work or you don't because talking about trolling people and how epic it would be is stupid for a whole host of reasons.

 

[TJGamebox]

come on dude

okay sending Phil empty gift cards is funny but do not bother other people.

I thought we were not posting ideas on the farms and just showing results?

Like I’m here to laugh and point at Phil, but if you are going to troll do it! Don’t just go “tee hee what if we raided his house”

Don’t brainstorm, don’t expect ass pats, just DO IT if you are going to.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

We're in a new thread numbnuts.

We've gone through approx 7000 pages in the last two years (i.e. since the hearing).

In total the DSP general is at approx. 12,000 pages over just under 10 years. When more than half of them happen in the last two years, that kinda implies that something big happened.

You can deny it all you want. It doesn't stop it from being true.

Here's what you're doing. You're equating the forum when it had 411 active members, and really only a thousand as recent as when I joined to now when it gets a few thousand more per year. The site has more traffic, DSP does not have more dedicated detractors.

DSP's gameplay has become the least interesting thing about him though, by his own design because he's been avoiding anything that classically made his gameplay experiences funny. I'm not encouraging "le sick and epic trolling" because he's made himself almost immune to it without one of a handful of authority figures in his life (IRS, Youtube, Paypal) cutting ties with him and you're absolutely right that the idiots who act before they think and have spammed those sources with the DSP equivalent of "juuuulaayy", but all that's really left to laugh about is the absolutely insane cult mentality that he's drilled into his audience to save what little is left of his ego. Snipping out the segments of "we were always at war with Eurasia" style lies he tells to his fanbase is probably the only content anyone could make of him anymore. It's not unbelievable to think that considering how long this track has been going some have wondered how someone so shameless wouldn't attract Wings level trolling or want to see that happen in this case in consideration of the shift in DSP content in general. But it's not something to advocate for either, because relatively the effort will have to be greater than the payoff and you either do the work or you don't because talking about trolling people and how epic it would be is stupid for a whole host of reasons.

You're not wrong but we do need some segregation in content. The current ones are doing both jobs, and doing both jobs bad. His drama vids need their own thing, handled in their own way and people like me don't have to care because we come here to see it updated by the minute. His game vids on the other hand desperately need to go back. What people commonly forget his his videos have always been unwatchable, and the TIHYDP always cut them down. We forget that because of two factors, he's so much MORE unwatchable now and avoids any challenge like the plague, and because even when we try to catch a snippet of him failing it's surrounded by 4 to 7 hours of fucking basically unedited garbage. So yeah, the TIHYDP would be much much leaner, it would still exist. Think of what it would look like for the recent Sonic playthroughs already with basically exact copies of this Sonic Mania crap:

(8:17 if the timestamp fails)
With this kind of stuff there's ample for a 1 minute short a day and a very short TIHYDP for the entire game. Again, even before he would play regular games and be completely boneheaded and actually go in blind, and the compilations were very short.

 

[Gramh]

You're not wrong but we do need some segregation in content. The current ones are doing both jobs, and doing both jobs bad. His drama vids need their own thing, handled in their own way and people like me don't have to care because we come here to see it updated by the minute. His game vids on the other hand desperately need to go back. What people commonly forget his his videos have always been unwatchable, and the TIHYDP always cut them down. We forget that because of two factors, he's so much MORE unwatchable now and avoids any challenge like the plague, and because even when we try to catch a snippet of him failing it's surrounded by 4 to 7 hours of fucking basically unedited garbage. So yeah, the TIHYDP would be much much leaner, it would still exist. Think of what it would look like for the recent Sonic playthroughs already with basically exact copies of this Sonic Mania crap:

(8:17 if the timestamp fails)
With this kind of stuff there's ample for a 1 minute short a day and a very short TIHYDP for the entire game. Again, even before he would play regular games and be completely boneheaded and actually go in blind, and the compilations were very short.

Unfortunately he doesn't go in blind, stays away from hard games, he's not anywhere near as reactive, and he's consolidated his excuses down to it's either lag or input delays and moves on. The only time he gets really salty is about his personal life when tips are low. You could pretty much make 1 TIHYDP of any one game he's played in the past 2 years and it would be interchangeable with any of his other playthroughs.

 

[Null]

I thought we were not posting ideas on the farms and just showing results?

Like I’m here to laugh and point at Phil, but if you are going to troll do it! Don’t just go “tee hee what if we raided his house”

Don’t brainstorm, don’t expect ass pats, just DO IT if you are going to.

No? You should not be encouraging people to fuck with retards. If you're going to fuck with retards, don't post about doing it. If you're going to fuck with retards, leave innocent bystanders out of it.

Like.. common sense. Don't be a human blight on society.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

I see we are having this argument again...how many pages will it take up this time i wonder..

 

[actually]

I see we are having this argument again...how many pages will it take up this time i wonder..

Ought to be pretty settled, given that Null just gave his explicit opinion (and the correct one, imo).

 

[snort inquisition]

No? You should not be encouraging people to fuck with retards. If you're going to fuck with retards, don't post about doing it. If you're going to fuck with retards, leave innocent bystanders out of it.

Like.. common sense. Don't be a human blight on society.

does dropping dox on people not count as fucking with them? stop acting like you're above it all, so fucking cringe