US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

At this point I think winning again might just be the strongest revenge he could have.

True, but I think they're terrified he's going to go full ham on them. Remember, projection is a very real issue with leftists anyways.

 

[MrJokerRager]

It was also from when the police sat around with their thumbs up their asses while BLM went around looting and killing.

Yep, the one big thing that Democrats destroyed their own gun control argument with.

Defunding the police and sheriffs department are still being pushed by the true believers, who outnumber the grifters on that issue as well.

Well if the police are useless cucks, who is going to save them now lol.

But it's a giant own goal that has gotten out of control.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Yep, the one big thing that Democrats destroyed their own gun control argument with.

Defunding the police and sheriffs department are still being pushed by the true believers, who outnumber the grifters on that issue as well.

Well if the police are useless cucks, who is going to save them now lol.

But it's a giant own goal that has gotten out of control.

I have been down with the idea of defunding the police since day 1

1. My taxes go mostly to city and state police rather than the department out where I am, in the rural half of a county.

2. I'd trust a local militia to handle law more than I would police officers who do not live in my area code who drive in to work here.

3. I'd trust the local militia to hit their target more than police officers who re-qual once a year with their service pistol and typically don't know jack fuck about guns.

 

[The Last Stand]

It is something to keep in mind though. McConnell is not on 'your side'... but he is also not a hostile entity. He's more or less in his own self-contained faction that views every other faction with disdain. I am curious to see if it is still -equal- distain though, after everything the Democrats have pulled. Trump has to be looking like a mighty fine deal right now since every time McConnell wanted to deal with him, Trump was open to it and above all else -kept his word-.

A trustworthy brute might well be better than a deceitful gentleman.

He's old, he's White, he also works for the government, he is an enemy to me.

 

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At this point I think winning again might just be the strongest revenge he could have.

Winning would be nice, but if he spent 4 years completely fucking over the deep state and democratic rigging machine in complete give-no-fucks mode, that would be better. He could nominate special prosecutors targeting the spying on his campaign in 2016 and 2020, Epstein's clients, Seth Rich, Scalia, vote irregularities in 2020, 2022, and 2024...

He's too compromised by god's chosen to audit the fed, but, that would be the ultimate one. He'd never live long enough to sign the order, however.

It is why he largely remained neutral to Trump. Like the man and his policies all you want, Trump is a bull in a China shop and McConnell had and has plenty of legitimate reason to be sceptical of the man's ability to retain the senates dignity. Yet, he also never actually betrayed Trump. When the election fiasco came down he set up everything needed for any contests and left open space on the senate docket to do so. It was others like Pence who got out their knives.

I know there was a lot of grief towards Pence during and after 1/6, but what exactly did he do that was knives out?

 

[Gehenna]

Winning would be nice, but if he spent 4 years completely fucking over the deep state and democratic rigging machine in complete give-no-fucks mode, that would be better. He could nominate special prosecutors targeting the spying on his campaign in 2016 and 2020, Epstein's clients, Seth Rich, Scalia, vote irregularities in 2020, 2022, and 2024...

He's too compromised by god's chosen to audit the fed, but, that would be the ultimate one. He'd never live long enough to sign the order, however.


I know there was a lot of grief towards Pence during and after 1/6, but what exactly did he do that was knives out?

In very brief. He was the final potential stop as the head of the senate, the person who could have put a pause on it all. Long enough to do looks at the system or to bamf it back to the states. He outright refused.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Wasn't accidental.

McConnell isn't a RINO, but neither is he a populist. McConnell is an institutionalist.

His concern is solely focused on the perceived sanctity of the institution of the senate. He believes it is his job as senate majority/minority leader to ensure that the rules are followed and that the senate runs like a well-oiled machine. But, above all that, that it retain the dignity it is meant to have as the place legislation goes to be weighed and refined.

It is why he largely remained neutral to Trump. Like the man and his policies all you want, Trump is a bull in a China shop and McConnell had and has plenty of legitimate reason to be sceptical of the man's ability to retain the senates dignity. Yet, he also never actually betrayed Trump. When the election fiasco came down he set up everything needed for any contests and left open space on the senate docket to do so. It was others like Pence who got out their knives.

When it came to Scalia, I am somewhat sceptical of whether he was actually murdered.... but it was common parlance that it was possible and those who might have been responsible were busy being cagey as fuck. So McConnell saw that as an attempt to use the senate as Obama's hatchetmen. So he said no and stalled it out. Whoever won the election would determine it from there, but he'd not allow the senate to be misused.

It is something to keep in mind though. McConnell is not on 'your side'... but he is also not a hostile entity. He's more or less in his own self-contained faction that views every other faction with disdain. I am curious to see if it is still -equal- distain though, after everything the Democrats have pulled. Trump has to be looking like a mighty fine deal right now since every time McConnell wanted to deal with him, Trump was open to it and above all else -kept his word-.

A trustworthy brute might well be better than a deceitful gentleman.

He’s basically the Ents from Lord of the Rings. On nobodies side except his own, but ready the minute someone breaks an agreement he will zealously attack them.

Please rate me the soy emote if we have one.

 

[The Last Stand]

He’s basically the Ents from Lord of the Rings. On nobodies side except his own, but ready the minute someone breaks an agreement he will zealously attack them.

Please rate me the soy emote if we have one.

READ ANOTHER BOOK

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

READ ANOTHER BOOK

I can autistically ramble off the Screwtape Letters if you’d like.

 

[Sithis]

He’s basically the Ents from Lord of the Rings. On nobodies side except his own, but ready the minute someone breaks an agreement he will zealously attack them.

Please rate me the soy emote if we have one.

The two are not comparable at all how fucking dare you compare my nigga Treebeard and the rowdy Huorn bunch to the turtle of Congress

Lmao McConnell is just a true politician, a modern day Cato. I don't necessarily say this as a compliment. He is very skilled and very influential with what he does, but as has been said he's not really on anyone's distinct side, he loves the system, not the people or their whims.

 

[The Ugly One]

Wasn't accidental.

McConnell isn't a RINO, but neither is he a populist. McConnell is an institutionalist.

His concern is solely focused on the perceived sanctity of the institution of the senate. He believes it is his job as senate majority/minority leader to ensure that the rules are followed and that the senate runs like a well-oiled machine. But, above all that, that it retain the dignity it is meant to have as the place legislation goes to be weighed and refined.

It is why he largely remained neutral to Trump. Like the man and his policies all you want, Trump is a bull in a China shop and McConnell had and has plenty of legitimate reason to be sceptical of the man's ability to retain the senates dignity. Yet, he also never actually betrayed Trump. When the election fiasco came down he set up everything needed for any contests and left open space on the senate docket to do so. It was others like Pence who got out their knives.

When it came to Scalia, I am somewhat sceptical of whether he was actually murdered.... but it was common parlance that it was possible and those who might have been responsible were busy being cagey as fuck. So McConnell saw that as an attempt to use the senate as Obama's hatchetmen. So he said no and stalled it out. Whoever won the election would determine it from there, but he'd not allow the senate to be misused.

It is something to keep in mind though. McConnell is not on 'your side'... but he is also not a hostile entity. He's more or less in his own self-contained faction that views every other faction with disdain. I am curious to see if it is still -equal- distain though, after everything the Democrats have pulled. Trump has to be looking like a mighty fine deal right now since every time McConnell wanted to deal with him, Trump was open to it and above all else -kept his word-.

A trustworthy brute might well be better than a deceitful gentleman.

An interesting take, but not quite hard enough on the old turtle. McConnell disliked Trump, wanted him gone, and signaled through lackeys that if Trump stepped out of line--if he fired Robert Mueller, if he ignored a bullshit nationwide injunction from a lower court, if he sent troops to stop domestic terrorists, and so on--he wouldn't hesitate to find 17 Republicans to vote to remove him from office after impeachment sailed through the House. He worked with the GA-GOP to try and win the runoff after allowing The Steal, hilariously thinking that putting his ugly mug on campaign ads would keep the Senate red.

The difference between him and either Liz Cheney or Paul Ryan is he's not an outright political retard. He can see which way the wind is blowing in the Republican Party, and he's not dumb enough to announce in the press that the President with overwhelmingly high approval ratings among his own voters is the country's greatest enemy.

 

[The Last Stand]

An interesting take, but not quite hard enough on the old turtle. McConnell disliked Trump, wanted him gone, and signaled through lackeys that if Trump stepped out of line--if he fired Robert Mueller, if he ignored a bullshit nationwide injunction from a lower court, if he sent troops to stop domestic terrorists, and so on--he wouldn't hesitate to find 17 Republicans to vote to remove him from office after impeachment sailed through the House. He worked with the GA-GOP to try and win the runoff after allowing The Steal, hilariously thinking that putting his ugly mug on campaign ads would keep the Senate red.

The difference between him and either Liz Cheney or Paul Ryan is he's not an outright political retard. He can see which way the wind is blowing in the Republican Party, and he's not dumb enough to announce in the press that the President with overwhelmingly high approval ratings among his own voters is the country's greatest enemy.

Best way to describe McConnell is that he's a calculated genius in his craft. Power motivates him, not public opinion.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

He’s basically the Ents from Lord of the Rings. On nobodies side except his own, but ready the minute someone breaks an agreement he will zealously attack them.

Please rate me the soy emote if we have one.

LotR comparisons are at least comparisons to great works of literature. Unlike Harry Potter or the female erotic fantasy that is Handmaiden's Tale.

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As for my take on Chinless Mitch, is that he is the ultimate expression of the Iron Law of Institutions and the Iron Law of Bureaucracy:

The Iron Law of Institutions is this: “the people who control institutions care first and foremost about their power within the institution rather than the power of the institution itself. Thus, they would rather the institution ‘fail’ while they remain in power within the institution than for the institution to “succeed” if that requires them to lose power within the institution.”

Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers and launch technicians and scientists at NASA, even some agricultural scientists and advisors in the former Soviet Union collective farming administration. Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organization itself. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many professors of education, many teachers union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, etc. The Iron Law states that in every case the second group will gain and keep control of the organization. It will write the rules, and control promotions within the organization.

This is not particularly emblematic of the Man himself, but rather the structure of politics.

 

[Kane Lives]

LotR comparisons are at least comparisons to great works of literature. Unlike Harry Potter or the female erotic fantasy that is Handmaiden's Tale.

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As for my take on Chinless Mitch, is that he is the ultimate expression of the Iron Law of Institutions and the Iron Law of Bureaucracy:



This is not particularly emblematic of the Man himself, but rather the structure of politics.

Crucially, no matter how you view Mitch McConnell, he's predictable. Let him keep power, and he'll do you a solid in return. You will never call him friend, but you can rely on him as an ally of convenience.

 

[verissimus]

Crucially, no matter how you view Mitch McConnell, he's predictable. Let him keep power, and he'll do you a solid in return. You will never call him friend, but you can rely on him as an ally of convenience.

I've always viewed him as nothing short of a professional horse-trader.

 

[Mothra1988]

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE. PLEASE BE REAL, I WANT TO SEE THE GLORIOUS SHITSHOW THAT WOULD BE TRUMP V. HILLARY - THE REMATCH.

I've been saying this was going to happen since 2020. I don't know why no one believed me. Her ego is gigantic, and Biden was definitely a one term deal.

 

[The Last Stand]

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE. PLEASE BE REAL, I WANT TO SEE THE GLORIOUS SHITSHOW THAT WOULD BE TRUMP V. HILLARY - THE REMATCH.

Everybody is sure obsessed with Hillary Clinton lately. Thirsty.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I need my job. I'm fucking a master at it. Five years is all I need. But I'm old and trying to gravy train on out. My tongue is full of holes because I have to bite it so often. So be it. Diversity, Inclusion, Equity.

Just bite that tongue a little harder. Corporate sucks donkey balls. BIG fucking donkey balls.

Just nod and say the right keywords Slappy. In a couple more years, I can dickslap all these corporate morons on my way out the door.

Makes me glad I'm not high enough to deal with DEI at my place, though somehow there's still a troon at my factory here in Flyover Country.

True, but I think they're terrified he's going to go full ham on them. Remember, projection is a very real issue with leftists anyways.

He would be completely justified dropping the hammer down on them.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[MirrorNoir]

Didn't being a lame Duck kinda helped Obama to keep his image?

After he lost his super majority and shit went south for his presidency, all Obama had to do was to shrug and say "well if it wasn't for those dang gridlocking republicans, we could get stuff done", and the media would run with it?

Not to mention Obama always had someone ready and willing to jump into swords whenever a scandal came up in the WH.

Sure, Bideon doesn't have a drop of the same good will people have for Obama, but hey, at least the Dems can play dead and maybe get someone else for 2024.

I Say they listen to Colbert and run AOC, let's fucking go, I want to see this shit!

when it came to the press and the public, Obama getting half-measure health care reform passed PLUS stealing credit from the Supreme Court over gay marriage being legalized, gave him an infinite "get out of jail" card for being a fuck up who couldn't get anything done. Combined with the Tea Party being coopted by racists who kept saying the quiet part out loud and Ted Cruz failing to get a clue as far as reading the room and realizing that he needed to go after disaffected liberals moderates, not granny and grandpa.

Also, running AOC in 2024 as a Michael Foot sacrifice special would be a horrible idea because she might actually fucking win and fuck everything up. Better to run Bernie, who has a better chance to lose and use his defeat to destroy AOC and her Jew hating squadron of mean girls ala how Militant got crushed after Foot's defeat.