Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Okay, this is becoming a rumor that gets repeated as fact and it needs to be quashed. Robyn didn't take Luna to the emergency room because of her relatives or because of her weight. She took her because she posted a video on IG and people told her that Luna's weird eye movements were seizures and Robyn was shocked to learn they were right. Luna was a normal weight at that time. Luna's skeleton phase started AFTER she was diagnosed and while she still was revcieving regular medical care by actual doctors. The US may be more permissive in what they allow parents to do with their children, especially in the name of religion or strongly held beliefs, but one thing that the courts have consistency found is that starving your child does not count. The actual doctors that Luna was seeing at the time would have called CPS and there would have been an emergency hearing that would have guaranteed Luna ended up with a feeding tube looooonnnngggg before she actually did if her starvation period was due to Robyn. It was not. We hate Robyn, but this is Kiwi Farms, not Lolcow, and it is factually untrue that Luna's weight had anything to with her initial diagnosis and the idea that medical professionals let Robyn get Luna to the point she was at because "well she's a woo mom who wants to breastfeed" is farcical.

Edit: Reading carefully Luna's case was handled by no less than 4 diffrent medical teams between April when she was diagnosed and September when she finally got her tube. These included the Boston Childrens Hospital at the end of May and a team in the emergency room in mid August when the infamous big-head-skelly-body picture was taken. When the tube was placed Robyn mentioned that they did this in consultation with Luna's hospice team, who would have been monitoring Luna. Luna didn't just fall through the cracks somehow and Robyn wasn't successfully hiding her from real doctors. Whatever bullshit about latching and breastfeeding and all that that Robyn posted was just a social media lie, nothing more.

Interesting, there’s been many times we’ve wondered about the timeline, so I’m glad to have it narrowed down.

Are you getting this info from @GenociderSyo post #815? I had to dig around a bit, but that’s the only timeline of Robyn’s version of events I can find.

Do we know when Luna got the tube/s?
Because I question if Luna was under consistent medical care, especially after Boston confirmed the original diagnosis and they left for LV.

(One weird thing I noticed, Robyn says they were sent home with hospice, but weren’t able to get hospice services for 5 weeks, and she ‘was left to do everything on her own’ Who knows what she means by that. I wouldn’t trust Robyn to hold a door open for me, much less care for Luna by herself )
 
Isn't Luna basically blind? The user controls the device with eye movements, so good is it to a blind person?
Yep its worthless for her.

As for the feeding tube thing. If I remember right Luna was diagnosed then they went off doctors again stating none would help them. She was later diagnosed failure to thrive and given the feeding tube and still was not gaining much weight so it was upgraded to the g-tube. But a lot of Luna's early history has been deleted by Robyn so we only have her as a very unreliable narrator to go by.

If your up to trying to figure it out she has story highlights Luna 1 through 7 i think now which kinda give an idea of history linearly.
 
Atlas is a gorgeous, clever little boy and wasted on these two idiots.

Robyn is socially isolated and exhausted with a profoundly disabled child and a toddler. Her being terminally online is an escape from her reality that allows her to create an entirely different one where everything is divine and magical.

Being a stay at home parent is very difficult. You do go a certain amount of crazy when you only have children around you, and you're also cleaning the house and trying to look after yourself. There is no one in her life now after avoiding doctors that will correct her delusions or give her any kind of meaningful adult feedback that addresses what she avoids... That being her daughter's condition is her fault, and she is incapable of socialising Atlas properly and supporting his development while Luna is alive and she has a phone in her hand.

What happens when Luna dies? Will she start finding problems in Atlas munchie by proxy style? Will she adopt another potato? Will she find a new role as a psychic medium for potatoes to communicate with the world? Will Atlas still be second fiddle forever as Robyn falls into depression and psychosis from grief and guilt?

Atlas loses in all of this. Every time. He deserves better than what he was born into. Where are other children his age to play with? She doesn't go to play groups or spend much engaging time with him at all. It's just sad and will get more sad in time for him even after Luna mercifully fades.
It always baffles me that they moved back to Vegas to supposedly be closer to family yet it seems there’s no one there to intervene and get Robyn the help she needs. Glenn, of course, is completely useless, as all he does is isolate and work out. I know Robyn’s bat shit crazy and I wouldn’t want to deal with her either but for Atlas’s sake the family really should do something. I wonder if they even try.
 
Was anyone able to grab the video Glenn posted of him working out and you see a wild Robyn walk in, not IG ready and her in reality took me back. She looks 10 years older and 20 pounds heavier IRL
Was it today? Also they delete FAST if you see something psoted in stories grab it via story saver or if its an ig post itself via inflact.
 
It always baffles me that they moved back to Vegas to supposedly be closer to family yet it seems there’s no one there to intervene and get Robyn the help she needs. Glenn, of course, is completely useless, as all he does is isolate and work out. I know Robyn’s bat shit crazy and I wouldn’t want to deal with her either but for Atlas’s sake the family really should do something. I wonder if they even try.
Remember, we just got through Covid. Maybe they wanted to help and Robyn was too afraid to let them have regular contact.

The few times we’ve seen grandparents, they’ve seemed unhappy about this situation and stay away from Luna. How much is Covid, how much is anger at what happened, how much is intolerance of woo nonsense and how much is my imagination-hard to say.

I think being a grandparent in that situation would be tough, but I know Atlas would be at my house at least weekly if it was allowed. Awful as I might be, I doubt I’d have much to do with Luna. I’d consider my job loving on Atlas and showing him a snippet of normality.
 
Antivaxxers and pretty sure the only time they wore masks was when a place required it (and I'm pretty sure they refused to wear them properly out of spite). Nor were they shy about eating out at the height of the pandemic before the vaccine came out with one medically fragile child and another on the way/newborn. They've been sick a few times so honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they had it and just aren't aware (or care).
 
The buzzword for this is "spiritual bypassing". People who get into this idea of always being "positive, love and light" when in practice that means doing exactly what Robyn does, retreating into a fantasy land where you don't even acknowledge anything negative or try to grow and move on from your own negative traits, you just spam social media with love and light and stick your fingers in your ears la la la.
A really awful by product of this is the idea that if you have positive energy, and ask for something, the universe will give it to you. The reverse of this: if something terrible happens (cancer, accident, unwell baby, etc.) to you, then you must have brought it upon yourself by having negative energy.

Also, an awful Christian adage is that "God will never give you more than you can handle," which is absolute crap. People are constantly getting more than they can handle. God must hate them.
 
Robyn is ostensibly spiritually enlightened, in touch with the important things in life, and far above the mindless and 'energetically destructive' practices of contemporary consumerist life. And yet she is utterly superficial and devoted to appearances, the way she looks physically and how she and her family come off to the online world. There are many other people like this and it baffles me. If you are into hippy-dippy alternative stuff and opposed to the pretense and manipulative practices of mainstream life, good for you. That kind of lifestyle and belief system is authentic for many people. But, in my mind, such people shouldn't have any problem with presenting themselves as they truly are, warts, armpit hair and all.

I know, I have an uncanny grasp of the obvious and all that. But shit, Robyn's life is so filtered, from the photo filters which sometimes cause her nose to completely disappear to the heavily curated window we get into her life.
 
Careful, all this talk about Robyn’s image and she’ll scold us again for being privileged to be able to see what she chooses to show us. It wasn’t pretty.
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This is one of the nicest things anyone has said to me in a long time and it made me all weird and and I didn't know how to respond so I just avoided the thread because I'm a turbo sperg. Thank you. ❤️


Fortunately, fixing a clogged shunt is not quite as involved as installing a new one. They're designed so that the tubing part can be changed out without actually needing to mess with the brain. I hope your friend's boy is feeling better now. It seems like the kind of thing where once it's fixed, the relief is pretty much instantaneous, but surgery is surgery. He's gotta be tough if he made it at 25 weeks! ❤️


I actually think she doesn't have enough brain left to experience REM sleep, which is pretty mind-blowing, no pun intended. Like I've said before, she really is treading wholly new ground here in terms of her neuroanatomy and the manifestations thereof. Who knows what is going on when she's "asleep". I'm curious if it's a regular, cyclical thing or if she just periodically goes into standby mode. Is it synchronized with light and dark cycles? Can she be roused? Are there behavioral changes that indicate it's going to happen or does she just kind of go limp? What is her respiratory pattern like while she's...doing whatever it is she's doing? So many questions.

When Luna had that sleep study a while ago, Robyn was weirdly silent about the results, which makes me think that it was very abnormal in a way that can't be spun to sound better. I mean, obviously it was very abnormal but Robyn's reaction to it was unusual.

Robyn is trying to rebrand:
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And Glenn is back to almost daily posting:
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Holy shit when I saw Luna in her chair with Atlas standing next to her, I didnt recognize her for a second. My brain didn't register what the hell I was looking at
 
Luna is basically one of Robyn’s plants. She just feeds and waters her regularly, and that’s that - just another living thing sucking up oxygen in that house. The difference is those plants are actually “thriving” while Luna is just on a steady decline. I think Robyn will start working on a replacement baby soon.
 
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