Mass shooting reported at an Independence Day/July 4th parade in Highland Park, Illinois - Reported Casualties: 6 dead, 24 Hospitalized - Suspect in custody

[Beautiful Border]

Damn, a ghost gun with a fully-semi auto clip and the shoulder thing that goes up is an assault weapon of war!

Why, is a gun without a serial number not called a ghost gun now?

 

[Tiggletown]

Thanks for having me. I've been keeping an eye on this thread since the whole thing happened, and finally decided to create an account so that I can maybe offer some... insight, I guess, since he and I were pretty good "pals" on the gore site. We talked often, almost every day.

What kind of proof would you like?

Well since we know his user names, screenshots of any convos.

Then post all the fucked up shit.

 

[Matt Damon]

Why, is a gun without a serial number not called a ghost gun now?

A "ghost gun" is a gun that never had a serial number because it was made from an 80% lower or something along those lines.

And no one but scaremongering politicians and media people has ever called them that.

 

[Tiggletown]

Why, is a gun without a serial number not called a ghost gun now?

Because a gun had a serial number at one point and it got scratched off that doesn't make it a "ghost gun" it makes it a gun with a scratched off serial number.

A "ghost gun" is something like an 80% lower or a 3D printed gun that never at any point in its life was serialized and doesn't have to follow any normal gay rules on forearms.

 

[Doctor Ivo Robotnik Sr.]

Did anyone save his toy video

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Why, is a gun without a serial number not called a ghost gun now?

Removing the serial number doesn't make it a "ghost gun". "Ghost guns" were manufactured without a serial number to begin with. If you're going to latch on to the scary buzzword o' the day at least use it right.

 

[Matt Damon]

Did anyone save his toy video

Right here.

the "Toy Soldier" video on his youtube/in archives.
or here, since I'm sure youtube's going to nuke his channel if they haven't already.
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[Accidentally On Purpose]

Well since we know his user names, screenshots of any convos.

Then post all the fucked up shit.

I will grab some screen shots as soon as I'm able to access DR. The site has been getting a lot of unwanted attention lately. Haha.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Because a gun had a serial number at one point and it got scratched off that doesn't make it a "ghost gun" it makes it a gun with a scratched off serial number.

A "ghost gun" is something like an 80% lower or a 3D printed gun that never at any point in its life was serialized and doesn't have to follow any normal gay rules on forearms.

Ghost guns can also be created in other ways. Like before 3d printing, a gun that was made in a country with limited record keeping (mainly former Soviet Republics right after 1991) smuggled into the US is a ghost gun. No record of sale, and if they call the manufacturer through interpol, nobody picks up because the factory is abandoned.

There are effective ghost guns, where the paper trail cuts off over a decade ago, but it clearly changed hands many times. If the serial number of a recovered gun in a gang shooting is linked to an old white guy who died of natural causes 20 years ago in a different state, that’s not useful to investigators. They can’t ask around at the gun shop that sold it, or bring the registered owner in for questioning. Waste of time.

Scratching the serial is easier said than done. CSI techs will use electron microscopes to read it anyways. Gun smugglers/dirty gunsmiths can remove it with a blowtorch but it’s incredibly hard to remove with a file.

 

[Beautiful Border]

A "ghost gun" is a gun that never had a serial number because it was made from an 80% lower or something along those lines.

And no one but scaremongering politicians and media people has ever called them that.

Ah okay, fair enough. I've edited my original post to reflect that.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Ghost guns can also be created in other ways. Like before 3d printing, a gun that was made in a country with limited record keeping (mainly former Soviet Republics right after 1991) smuggled into the US is a ghost gun. No record of sale, and if they call the manufacturer through interpol, nobody picks up because the factory is abandoned.

There are effective ghost guns, where the paper trail cuts off over a decade ago, but it clearly changed hands many times. If the serial number of a recovered gun in a gang shooting is linked to an old white guy who died of natural causes 20 years ago in a different state, that’s not useful to investigators. They can’t ask around at the gun shop that sold it, or bring the registered owner in for questioning. Waste of time.

Scratching the serial is easier said than done. CSI techs will use electron microscopes to read it anyways. Gun smugglers/dirty gunsmiths can remove it with a blowtorch but it’s incredibly hard to remove with a file.

No, if that was what "ghost gun" means then every gun sold in a private sale would be one. This is another example of the Left inventing a word to legislate something and then changing the definition of that word after the fact to confuse everybody and make a whole bunch of innocent people guilty of something.

CSI techs and electron micrososcopes? This isn't a TV show.

 

[Matt Damon]

CSI techs and electron micrososcopes? This isn't a TV show.

From what I understand, this is true.

The principle is that the internal grain structure of the steel/aluminum/whatever is affected by the stamping process and allows a serial to be found even if it's completely destroyed on the surface.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

From what I understand, this is true.

The principle is that the internal grain structure of the steel/aluminum/whatever is affected by the stamping process and allows a serial to be found even if it's completely destroyed on the surface.

Is it possible? Probably. How many police dept's have access to electron microscopes for day-to-day use? Not many. That still doesn't make it a "ghost gun". Removing a serial number from a firearm is an insta-felony, making your own firearm (a.k.a. "ghost gun") is legal.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

CSI techs and electron micrososcopes? This isn't a TV show.

They've been able to do it since the mid 90s. That being said, they would only pull out that technique if many easier leads haven't made progress, and the case was high priority. The cops and Feds can't just do this in a day.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

They've been able to do it since the mid 90s. That being said, they would only pull out that technique if many easier leads haven't made progress, and the case was high priority. The cops and Feds can't just do this in a day.

Of course it's possible, I'm saying Deputy Jones isn't going to visit the Smith County Crime Lab and run that gun he just found through their electron microscope. That's not realistic. All a serial number gets you anyway is the original purchaser, maybe.

 

[BelUwUga]

They've been able to do it since the mid 90s. That being said, they would only pull out that technique if many easier leads haven't made progress, and the case was high priority. The cops and Feds can't just do this in a day.

They do not even have to use electron microscopes. The ATF strongly encourages manufacturers to use methods of imprinting the serial that are going to precisely and predictably effect the underlying metal. Considering how many cases they've gotten to do this on now I would imagine it is fairly straightforward for anything but custom-made firearms these days. The "blowtorch" you previously mentioned is the right direction to completely remove it but doesn't fully get into methodology (I won't either, you're welcome feds). However they are basically having to entirely redo the heat treatment process to effectively "reset" the grain structure of the underlying steel.

@SaidNoOneEver The ATF will happily and readily subsidize the cost and facilitate processing at one of their labs. It's kind of a big part of what they do. You're right it's not a day but I bet this is rushed to a lab and front of the line if need be.

 

[Accidentally On Purpose]

Well since we know his user names, screenshots of any convos.

Then post all the fucked up shit.

Okay, here are some of our recent convos, probably not in the right order but the dates are there. I only left his username visible, but he's replying to me in each screenshot. I hope I'm doing this right, if not, yell at me.

 

[Naidyonov]

From what I understand, this is true.

The principle is that the internal grain structure of the steel/aluminum/whatever is affected by the stamping process and allows a serial to be found even if it's completely destroyed on the surface.

You could just drill or mill it off, AR aluminium is fairly robust. Most of the ID marks on a lower are on the left side of the mag well anyway.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I hit the highlights only so I hope this isn't a repost:

Rabbi claims shooter came to his synagogue at Passover and was removed by security (archive)



It doesn't sound like the guy did anything sus, just his being there while looking like a total meth head freak instead of a religious Jew was sus enough.

From the synagogue's security director:

Robert E. Crimo III, whom police apprehended Monday evening and have described as both a “suspect” and “person of interest” in the shooting, showed up at Central Avenue Synagogue on the last day of Passover this year.

He stood out from the typical Chabad visitor.

Crimo was wearing all black clothes “in the goth style,” according to Blumenthal, including black gloves.

He was also wearing a knapsack, which Blumenthal, after going over to introduce himself, squeezed to check for weapons. He didn’t feel any.

“He said his name was Bobby and he lived in the neighborhood,” Blumenthal said, adding, “I watched him the whole time.”

After sitting in the sanctuary for about 45 minutes, Crimo, who is 21, left by bike, according to Blumenthal.


Though Blumenthal believed Crimo was scoping out the synagogue — which he estimated had 125 people there that day — he did not check the man’s ID or report the incident to police. He said to the best of his knowledge Crimo had not broken any laws by coming into the synagogue, and that he had felt he had handled the situation appropriately.

“I profiled him. I knew what he was up to,” said Blumenthal. “But he didn’t cause a disturbance or anything. So I was just watching him.”

https://forward.com/news/508979/hig...ited-chabad-this-year-synagogue-crimo-july-4/

either he visited the synagogue twice or he left out details because I would think he would mention having security escort him out/having the rabbi talk to him.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

@Super-Chevy454 posted an article from American Thinker linking the perp to Antifa. For some reason I cannot replybornquote it. As the Andy Ngo tweet I submitted indicates, I doubt this guy has any ideological or political worldview that he could articulate intelligently. I do concede though that Antifa and the like attract a fair amount of that. I am reminded of the sex offender Rittenhouse shot and killed who paid lip service to Antifa/BLM but was really just looking for violence and mayhem.

Still, I question any attempt to link this guy to any coherent political perspective. He would probably make someone who strips naked to get down on all fours to howl at the moon like a wolf look sane and grounded. Again, Antifa attracts a lot of mentally ill people. Bio Leninism and all that. But this guy seems to go far and beyond your typical Antifa, leftie subhuman, as I doubt he could even regurgitate hackneyed slogans and phrases in any coherent manner whatsoever for even five minutes.