US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Ita Mori]

Feds are trying to secure and fortify Arizona:
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Lol, obey the law that says to disregard the sanctity of citizenship and lets outsiders influence national outcomes, or face the law! You must obey our laws that sound like treason but not really kinda ok so what maybe idk nazi.

As the total lack of prosecutions show, Trump is somehow the cleanest businessman ever.

Nobody who was ever friends with the Clintons is clean, but whatever legit dirt they have on him cannot be used without the Queen of the DNC and her interest groups catching flak.

If Trumps dirty, just pull a Ghislane Maxwell. Jail Trump, and then keep everyone else involved court sealed.

Impossible to do. They have made Trump such a priority issue for their demographics that any case involving him would have to be televised. The entire nation would demand it.

Pulling a Maxwell on Trump would make him a martyr and inspire an entire generation of those sympathetic to his policies that would take decades if not the end of the century to whittle away. That's too much power for the DNC to bestow to the populist arm of the GOP.

 

[MrJokerRager]

New Jersey has joined New York and California with more strong gun control bills lol.

Makes it about three states now, out of the 7 that were affected by Bruen.

 

[9Style]

 

[AnotherPleb]

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I wonder what inconvenient fact they reported this time?

 

[Speakeasy Electric]

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Context behind this?

 

[pen burger]

Context behind this?

It's back up. Twitter apparently claiming that some kind of automation flagged them mistakenly. Sure..

 

[The Last Stand]

I've always leaned 3 on Trump. He's done some shit, but it's the same shit everyone else has done and some of the people coming after him have done far worse.

It's the equivalent of Marilyn Monroe driving on mud while Joan Crawford is spinning out on that same mud.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Ehhh I like Trump-kun and all but he has had a rep as a shady businessman for longer than I've been alive lol
Then again finding a truly clean businessman is probably like finding an ethical lawyer.

If that rep had any merit they would have made use of it, found anything of note and with that in hand burned everything he has to the ground. Instead, they made up a story about russian prostitutes and ran with that.

 

[The Last Stand]

Tucker showed this today on his show, what Nancy Pelosi was up to, during the 4th of July weekend.

Spoiler: Suffer with me and other regular Tucker watchers.

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Damn, that body went over the hill.

 

[pwnest injun]

I've always leaned 3 on Trump. He's done some shit, but it's the same shit everyone else has done and some of the people coming after him have done far worse.

That has not once stopped them from acting like he's the first and only person to ever do [X].

He's done scumbag stuff, but not criminal stuff.

 

[AnotherPleb]

That has not once stopped them from acting like he's the first and only person to ever do [X].

He's done scumbag stuff, but not criminal stuff.

That's why I'm looking at 1. If he was on Pedo Island they would have impeached Trump just for that, no fucks given about Bill's trips there.

 

[Sithis]

If that rep had any merit they would have made use of it, found anything of note and with that in hand burned everything he has to the ground. Instead, they made up a story about russian prostitutes and ran with that.

I said shady, not illegal. Shit like lawsuits to keep people from badmouthing him on deals, taking advantage of forced contract breaches to get favorable dealings etc. Not something that'd get him arrested just stuff that isn't exactly clean business.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

Damn, that body went over the hill.

$13 a pint ice cream has consequences.

 

[Maurice Caine]

The right doesn't do political bombings, not organized ones anyway. That's the left, and yes, we're right on schedule for Antifa cells to start performing terror bombings to try and "trigger the great uprising that will bring forth real communism" or whatnot. People don't remember that in 1972 we had something like 1500 leftist terror bombings in a single year. We're entering a shitty remake of the 70s -- this time in HD -- and that will mean that the Weather Underground and Assata Shakur's Black Liberation Army will be echoed by Antifa and Patrisse Cullors's BLM.

Same bullet points as the 70s, in fact:

1. They believe the entire country agrees with them other than a vanishingly small number of unhinged evil madmen.
2. They have systemic support (media and low level government intentionally ignores their terrorism, the National Lawyer's Guild is openly providing support)
3. They have extreme epistemic enclosure (they NEVER hear anyone who disagrees with them, the social media algorithms block them from ever seeing it)
4. They're losing political and social power, making them desperate.

Hopefully this time when they try to flee into Academia to lick their wounds after we all get tired of putting up with them, we won't let them. In the 70s it was because Senator McImportantJew's retarded fucking daughter was involved and everyone figured she couldn't do any harm as a schoolteacher, I have no doubt at all there's a shitload of very important people's children involved with Antifa and the like now. Hell, BAMN, the even more insane version of Antifa, literally has the Berkeley Mayor as a member -- there was a reason they were allowed to openly plot to murder Milo Yiannopoulos during a riot to silence him years before that became normalized. And to say nothing about how the BLM terrorists are going to try and scream racism if anyone tries to punish them.

When this ends, the answer has to be to continue purging them until they don't HAVE a safe haven to retreat to. No more grievance studies indoctrination mills. No more open marxists teaching economics in our schools. No more degenerate freaks using a union to protect them from being punished for grooming children. We have to have learned the lesson of the 70s, or the next time these fucks come back after indoctrinating idiots and children for 40 years, they'll just be even more insufferable.

So it's alright for me to grow out my hair and walk around in a leisure suit? Or maybe I'll buy an M65 and get a mohawk.

 

[ForTheHoard]

19k upvotes, 0 downvotes. Impressive.

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Those comments are insane. The fact that there are people like that is surreal.

It gets better. 2x better.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

The piss tape was made from wholecloth. As the total lack of prosecutions show, Trump is somehow the cleanest businessman ever. What makes you think they would not just outright make shit up?

That's what really amazes me. How did someone who make his billions doing real estate and development in NYC and Jersey avoid any business contact with the notoriously mobbed up construction industry there in the 70s and 80s? Even if you yourself were completely scrupulous in your dealings, you wouldn't be able to do legit business without at least a few wise guys getting their cut... or else accidents happen.

 

[northstar747]

That's what really amazes me. How did someone who make his billions doing real estate and development in NYC and Jersey avoid any business contact with the notoriously mobbed up construction industry there in the 70s and 80s? Even if you yourself were completely scrupulous in your dealings, you wouldn't be able to do legit business without at least a few wise guys getting their cut... or else accidents happen.

he didnt duh

The problem i can see is this if you have kick backs being paid, who are they being paid to? does this person collect kick backs from other people?

if you go after him for corruption that everyone else engaged in you embarrass alot of other people who might be even more dirty so its not the best option

 

[AnotherPleb]

That's what really amazes me. How did someone who make his billions doing real estate and development in NYC and Jersey avoid any business contact with the notoriously mobbed up construction industry there in the 70s and 80s? Even if you yourself were completely scrupulous in your dealings, you wouldn't be able to do legit business without at least a few wise guys getting their cut... or else accidents happen.

IIRC he was one of the few that really pushed back against that.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

The difference between business and politics is in business, you need to stay legally clean, because there's always some prosecutor out to fuck you and make a name for himself. That doesn't mean you're ethically clean, just that what you've done stays within the letter of the law. Oh sure, your company might have committed regulatory infractions, but you, personally, need to be clean. Everyone knows they got Al Capone on tax evasion.

Politics, by contrast, works by bribery and blackmail. You don't get to the top unless your hands are absolutely filthy. If you had done the deep dive Mueller did on anyone else in Washington, their would have been absolutely infested with foreign collusion, kickbacks, quid pro quos, you name it, because that's just how stuff gets done in Washington. The fact that they had nothing on Trump to blackmail him with, that he wasn't owned by anybody, was a huge part of why they hated him so much. He was something nobody in either party can tolerate in the White House - a President who is more loyal to the American people than to major donors, foreign interests, or three-letter agencies.

Fun fact: The Clintons once ran for office just to make investigating them for wrongdoing politically nuclear. If she runs in 2024, at least in part the idea will be that Trump won't be able to go after her in 2025 because to do so would be seen as using the justice system to go after a political rival.

 

[Synthetic Smug]

It gets better. 2x better.
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I'd expect to see a few bots or people mistyping on the phone app. I've seen a fair number of videos over the past week with thousands of likes and no downvotes. I suspect YouTube is experimentally kludging something that zeroes out the downvotes without actually making the fundamental changes under the hood they said they were going to implement.