Debate newfag Cauchy on if trannies deserve anything

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

No, I disagree:

This is only surprising to people who have never actually studied fascism. Hitlerism was a form of fascism but not all of it or the traditionalist fascism that came from Evola out of it. But most people have been so brainwashed to never spend a microsecond of thought on fascism, lest they be accused of thoughtcrimes. Yet fascism is the problem.

 

[One Quick Post]

You know, OP, I used to be a lot more open-minded on the trans issue. "Why would I care that they want to live as another gender," I thought, "it doesn't effect anyone else and it makes them happy." So what happened? Well, to put it bluntly, the things that I laughed off ten years ago as crazy conspiracy theories of what would happen if this shit got affirmed now look tame in comparison to what is actually happening.

Imagine someone ten years ago saying that compelled speech laws and threats to parental rights to choose healthcare for your children were at risk in various western nations over the trans issue, schools would be secretly transitioning kids without informing their parents let alone getting their consent, men would be playing rugby and fighting in MMA against women, people would be getting death threats over saying that convicted male rapists should not be in prison with women, or that males should not be in battered women's shelters, cases of rape in a school bathroom would be covered up because the perpetrator was trans, and that someone would be defended by trans activists for having their dick out in the women's section of a spa... This person would've sounded like an extremist.

Now, that's all just the tip of the iceberg of what trans activists are demanding of society. The increasing amount of pushback you're seeing is entirely your own creation, many people did not give two shits about trans people until it started effecting their lives, their kid's education, etc. If you want to find out what is radicalizing those pesky transphobes, take a look in the mirror.

I do feel a little bad for the fags and trannies with GID (like 0.1% of modern trannies) who just want to live their life and be treated like a normal person, they are having their names dragged through the mud by perverts who want kids to attend drag shows, and they will suffer greatly from the societal pushback that is inevitable. I also feel bad for the gays/lesbians who are having their sexuality erased by trannies who demand that they also be attracted to the opposite sex, must suck to have everything you fought for be destroyed by your own side! Trannies are doing more damage to gay rights than fundies ever did.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

No, I disagree:

Nah, despite the name and what some white supremacists on /pol/ told you, it's a right-wing ideology. At least according to every history and poli sci professor, but then again, /pol/ Republicans claim they know more than actual professors about their subjects of study

Then again, horseshoe theory does apply

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

You know, OP, I used to be a lot more open-minded on the trans issue. "Why would I care that they want to live as another gender," I thought, "it doesn't effect anyone else and it makes them happy." So what happened? Well, to put it bluntly, the things that I laughed off ten years ago as crazy conspiracy theories of what would happen if this shit got affirmed now look tame in comparison to what is actually happening.

Imagine someone ten years ago saying that compelled speech laws and threats to parental rights to choose healthcare for your children were at risk in various western nations over the trans issue, schools would be secretly transitioning kids without informing their parents let alone getting their consent, men would be playing rugby and fighting in MMA against women, people would be getting death threats over saying that convicted male rapists should not be in prison with women, or that males should not be in battered women's shelters, cases of rape in a school bathroom would be covered up because the perpetrator was trans, and that someone would be defended by trans activists for having their dick out in the women's section of a spa... This person would've sounded like an extremist.

Now, that's all just the tip of the iceberg of what trans activists are demanding of society. The increasing amount of pushback you're seeing is entirely your own creation, many people did not give two shits about trans people until it started effecting their lives, their kid's education, etc. If you want to find out what is radicalizing those pesky transphobes, take a look in the mirror.

I do feel a little bad for the fags and trannies with GID (like 0.1% of modern trannies) who just want to live their life and be treated like a normal person, they are having their names dragged through the mud by perverts who want kids to attend drag shows, and they will suffer greatly from the societal pushback that is inevitable. I also feel bad for the gays/lesbians who are having their sexuality erased by trannies who demand that they also be attracted to the opposite sex, must suck to have everything you fought for be destroyed by your own side! Trannies are doing more damage to gay rights than fundies ever did.

This subject comes up frequently in the sideshow thread. A whole lot of the regular posters there say the same things. Every story on r/gendercritical (rip) in their "how did you peak" threads were also saying all of these things. I can't remember how many of those threads there were, but it at was at least seven. Seven threads filled with so many stories of women not generally caring about trannies or even supporting them - until they met one - that they ran into reddit thread length limitations.

Didn’t matter if it was an MtF or FtM. Every one of these women had at least one bad experience with a trans person, often times truly horrifying ones. Like rape, exposing themselves, physical abuse, rage episodes that turned violent.

Those threads were what originally fully peaked me. I was already leaning terf, but seeing the same story play out time and again with the only difference being the specific details, made me so angry. I miss r/gendercritical just for those threads. Unlike here you could point normies to them and convert them too. Which is 100% of the reason it was shittcanned.

The truth is powerful disinfectant. In the case of Homos exposure showed that most of them want the same thing hets do. In the trannies case further exposure makes them less likely to support them.

I've seen two big surveys this year both say acceptance for trannies is falling in the US. Even though the number of people who don't want them to be discriminated against in housing and employment is the same. Turns out most people don't hate trannies, they don't want bad things to happen to them, but also don't trust or like them. A surprising number of the people who know trannies irl don't support them. Almost no one cares about the bills being passed to limit their activities.

Of course, this tranny will claim this is all cope and bullshit because she can't see, or won't see, the evidence that proves these things - even though it's all documented here. I pity her.

 

[Dirty Larry]

Nah, despite the name and what some white supremacists on /pol/ told you, it's a right-wing ideology. At least according to every history and poli sci professor, but then again, /pol/ Republicans claim they know more than actual professors about their subjects of study

Then again, horseshoe theory does apply

Whatever ambiguous professors you’re referring to either held lectures that went right over your head or they’re just as stupid as you are. The term has been abused beyond all meaning, likely since before you were born, and trying to ascribe either side of modern American discourse to it is an exercise is mental masturbation. The ideological tenants of Fascism are so far removed beyond our Overton window that it doesn’t serve as anything other than a derogatory remark agains things you don’t like.

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[!Felid_Transmuter666!?]

Little experiment:
Imagine showing this thread to an average American on the street. Who do you think they would side with?
Me arguing that transfolks deserve happiness? Or an army of trolls telling me that I'm filth and that I should kill myself?
Society is against you, your dishonesty and impotent rage will be your downfall.

I can guarantee that they would side with the farms from where I live. Most Christians believe that men and women were made to compliment each other and have equally important roles to fulfill as God intended. Remember that Baphomet is a troon.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

If you're really happy as a transsexual, I'm glad. I think adults have the right to make their own decisions with their bodies. I also think transgenderism is a legitimate condition (however, I also think most cases right now are due to social contagion). I don't agree with violence against transsexuals or discrimination against transsexuals in the workplace (provided it isn't a gender-specific job). If an employer refused to hire qualified transsexuals because they were transsexuals, that would be wrong. I don't misgender people when I speak to them because that would be a jerk move. I might not agree with what someone is doing, but it isn't my place to question them in day-to-day conversations.

However, you need to acknowledge the problems in your community. The aspect of social contagion. Doctors playing Frankenstein on mentally ill and often underage patients with hormones and extreme surgeries. That often times someone is not screened well enough before their medical transition begins.

Spoiler: Personal Anecdote Sperg

My best friend in my teens was a BPD depressed anorexic. The doctors approved her transition to a man when she was underaged. I hope she, or should I say he (though it feels weird given I always knew her as a girl) is still happy. However, I'd been friends with this girl all my teens. She was highly unstable, self harming, prone to psychotic episodes and delusions, suicidal, engaged in reckless behaviour, etc... So I worry. The doctors said she was good to go, but I knew her. I knew she wasn't mentally stable at the time. I'm no doctor, but years of knowing somebody has to count for something.


This isn't somebody they should've taken the knife to. Yet within a couple months it was all happening. They didn't even wait to see if her antipsychotics and antidepressants were abating the symptoms before they started pumping her full of hormones. And since the surgeries started at around the same time as the therapy and medication for her mental illness, there's no way of knowing if it's the transition that cured her or the medication.

Aside from all of that, estrogen is protective to the bones for biological females. She was already pretty badly anorexic, putting her more at risk for brittle bones when they started pumping her full of testosterone. As a doctor, that is extremely irresponsible. While I know that anorexia is often a symptom of gender dysphoria which makes this sort of situation more complicated, to not get her weight restored before they started doing all that shit is idiotic.

After her top surgery, she told me she could no longer feel her chest. That means nerve damage. It's bad enough if the area stays numb and dead, but if those nerves start working again, she's going to be in agony. Nerve damage pain is some of the worst pain out there.

I'm convinced that had she not been in a circle where transgenderism was always being talked about and encouraged, she would've stayed a butch lesbian.

That's what peaked me and made me skeptical of the trans movement. It wasn't the evil Kiwifarms or Jordan Peterson or 4chan. It was watching what happened to my best friend.

Another thing that's important is to follow the money. Pharmaceutical companies are making BANK off of hormone therapy. So of course it's going to get pushed, just like how ADHD pills were handed out to kids like candy in the 90s and opiates were chucked at anybody with a mild ache in the 2000s. Doctors make big money off of gender reassignment surgeries. Too many people ignore the monetary incentives in all this, and they're (IMO) a big part of why so many people are being transitioned.

You said before that you wanted to show us that transgender people are just people seeking happiness. And I believe that. But it's possible to seek happiness in the wrong places, or be influenced by things going on in society.

 

[OrionBalls]

this is such a dishonest take lol, I've been nice to y'all for 20 pages and everyone has been shitting on me and telling me the most heinous shit

When did I do anything heinous to you, again? Having thin skin means you just bruise easier. If this is truly going to be the life you lead, you might want to get a bit tougher. No one trusts a weak man.

 

[whothefuck]

damn this thread is so shit I want to join the 41%.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

My guess would've been this person who goes by Couchy. FtM but not really trying, knows about the farms, horrifying TikTok, talks like a shithead.

Oh good find! But the art style of that Couchy actually seems markedly shittier than our Cauchy's catboys.

 

[Niggaplease]

This subject comes up frequently in the sideshow thread. A whole lot of the regular posters there say the same things. Every story on r/gendercritical (rip) in their "how did you peak" threads were also saying all of these things. I can't remember how many of those threads there were, but it at was at least seven. Seven threads filled with so many stories of women not generally caring about trannies or even supporting them - until they met one - that they ran into reddit thread length limitations.

Didn’t matter if it was an MtF or FtM. Every one of these women had at least one bad experience with a trans person, often times truly horrifying ones. Like rape, exposing themselves, physical abuse, rage episodes that turned violent.

Those threads were what originally fully peaked me. I was already leaning terf, but seeing the same story play out time and again with the only difference being the specific details, made me so angry. I miss r/gendercritical just for those threads. Unlike here you could point normies to them and convert them too. Which is 100% of the reason it was shittcanned.

The truth is powerful disinfectant. In the case of Homos exposure showed that most of them want the same thing hets do. In the trannies case further exposure makes them less likely to support them.

I've seen two big surveys this year both say acceptance for trannies is falling in the US. Even though the number of people who don't want them to be discriminated against in housing and employment is the same. Turns out most people don't hate trannies, they don't want bad things to happen to them, but also don't trust or like them. A surprising number of the people who know trannies irl don't support them. Almost no one cares about the bills being passed to limit their activities.

Of course, this tranny will claim this is all cope and bullshit because she can't see, or won't see, the evidence that proves these things - even though it's all documented here. I pity her.

I didn't even hit radical feminism until I got out of sex work after a good four years of being pimped out by an ex; before that I was a liberal feminist, because liberal feminism sold me the idea of what I did was empowering and not an obvious cancer I was trying to kill with alcohol every night I was involved in it. terfism wasn't an out and out day 1 decision of oh Immah be a terf now.

it was a long grueling process of finding out why I was lied to , why despite how people told me sex work is work just like any job, it still felt like exploitation, and the extent to how much bullshit was sold to me. It was progressive series of shower thoughts and deep introspection to come to terms with the fact liberal feminism is a lie and if I kept whoring I'd get killed or kill myself by drinking myself to the grave. no where was trannies in that equation; HOW ever because liberal feminism is a lie about sex work, it got the noggin joggin about other topics like you guess it troons.

its amazing really I went full terf because liberal feminism lied to me, and instead of seeing reality of the situation I was in a barely legel 18 year girl who was essentially groomed into sex work by a man 10 years older than her, and obviously what is a trafficking en lite situation, no all I got was YASSS QUEEN slay get yo coin. Irl had literal physical cries for help, and no one helped instead the gave me toxic fake affirmation. I guess you can say I started of swerf then jumped into terf when I realized men and by extension troons encourage sex work too.

if you think @Cauchy I started off as a bigotted troon hater your dead wrong; my path to terfdom was lined with thorns, I started off being lied to about whats empowering and whats not to coming up with my own conclusion that sex work and troonery must go. I had before the forced sex work been somewhat of a live let live type, now if I ran my perfect ancap state degneneretes like you would be yeeted of the earth with recreational nukes.

 

[Sanshain]

I came here to convince people that transgender people are just people seeking happiness. Which I'm successfully doing. You come across as deranged bitter transphobe.

People who mainline heroin into their veins every day are just seeking happiness.

Lavrentiy Beria was just seeking happiness by driving around Moscow, abducting women off the street, raping them and then sending letters to their husbands telling them they'd be tortured to death if they complained about it.

Ted Bundy was just seeking happiness by murdering people.

Pedophiles are just seeking happiness by sodomizing innocent children.

'Seeking happiness' does not automatically make you a good person, an innocent person, or not a burden on society.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

Nah, despite the name and what some white supremacists on /pol/ told you, it's a right-wing ideology. At least according to every history and poli sci professor, but then again, /pol/ Republicans claim they know more than actual professors about their subjects of study

Then again, horseshoe theory does apply

Ever read the works of A. James Gregor? The man himself lead the field in the study of fascism to the point he was The Knight of the Order of Merit for his research alone. Before you say he is some quack professor as well, he was the professor of Political Science at UCLA Berkley. In other words, he was poli sci professor who would most certainly disagree with you

 

[Table Country]

Jesus Christ I've never seen a thread where tons and tons of people who should know better get baited by a genderspecial catboi with little to no effort.

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

Excellent bait. No one can be this daft and retarded.

 

[Lokenstien]

Jesus Christ I've never seen a thread where tons and tons of people who should know better get baited by a genderspecial catboi with little to no effort.

Part of the farms identity is laughing, ridiculing and seething at dumb easy to upset retards who will compulsively reply and say stupid shit in endless circles. If users actually knew better this place would be significantly less interesting. After all part of the fun is hurling pure unbridled vitriol even if the recipient is just a troll.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

Jesus Christ I've never seen a thread where tons and tons of people who should know better get baited by a genderspecial catboi with little to no effort.

I can't help that I'm retarded.

 

[Dyn]

Jesus Christ I've never seen a thread where tons and tons of people who should know better get baited by a genderspecial catboi with little to no effort.

I'm impressed tbh, she's a better Kiwi than people who've been here for years.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Gender dysphoria

What does gender dysphoria feel like? Genuine question, I hear people talk about it on occasion but only in passing. I know a couple of people who did describe it to me have different experiences of it (as it is unique to everyone), can you describe yours if you have the time?

transwomen are real women but actually attractive and have personality

What can cis women do to have personality? Do they need to laugh at themselves more, explore things more, or something else? No personality always was a weird term to me.

As homework, think about who would an average American side with ITT.

You ask this and you should know better: there are still an overwhelming amount of transphobes and homophobes in America outside of us. A few of my friend's parents would kick them out if my friends had turned out gay, I doubt a trans offspring would fair better. America is still divided more evenly on trans people and there's a lot of places that have a lot of like or sympathy for trans people, and others who... don't. IIRC Canada and the UK are more even on trans acceptance in comparison.

 

[Banquet Meal]

Why do these people try to talk as if they were teachers? I saw someone use the phrase "Now to remind the class" on Twitter today. Don't they realize this makes them seem like massive cunts?

has she tossed around the word "educate" yet? that is extremely cunty as well!
anyway, shes getting what she wants...everyone is typing out veritable essays to this young lady, for whatever reason. she is obviously here to gather screenshots for her creepy friends, to show how she schooled everyone, etc etc. trannys make up facts to try and win arguments, and they are mentally ill on top of that, you cannot win with them.