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That is a little bit upsetting.
Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial
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I did not know that mice could potentially have Down syndrome.
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Yeah this is a super weird thing mothers do that makes me very uncomfortable. Kiss your kid on the goddamn cheek you fucking weirdos.
Garbage.Theory
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I don’t know if or how often it occurs naturally, but you can breed and clone lab mice to have nearly every genetic disorder known to man. The tough ones are disorders incompatible with life, as the mouse fetus wouldn’t develop same as a human one wouldn’t.
Scolopendra Dramatica
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Oh why have an article about downy mice without pictures? I wanted to see what a downy mouse looks like!
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"My dead kid is going to get me SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many likes yo" -The mother, probably
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I saw a guy holding what I assume was his daughter (maybe 8ish I’m bad at ages) full on mouth kiss her in the chemist.
It was super gross and I still wonder if she’s okay.
Garbage.Theory
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This little blip has a picture. Looks like a regular mouse to me but I’m not a mouse expert. Looks like you can’t just knock in a third copy of chr21 like in humans, it’s a far more complicated mouse!
I’m also going to leave this here. Because it’s a paper where a bunch of scientists gave zebrafish autism and I think it’s just relevant to the farms in general.
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Here are the Down's mice.
A regular field mouse for comparison
A regular field mouse for comparison
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The weirdest/grossest part is that he has both his endotracheal (breathing) and orogastric (feeding) tubes coming out his mouth so she's just kissing around that and all the tape securing it in place.
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Rate me autistic but these pictures she takes of him half naked, the kissing on the mouth - maybe it's just me, but it sets off all the alarm bells in my head. I guess it's sort of an uncanny valley effect? It's so unsettling. I feel so bad for Archie. Poor boy. 
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They're actually pretty cute, hopefully the sacrifice of their lives will lead to major breakthroughs in dementia/etc treatments
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There's a difference between "can't contribute at all, is a drain on the collective" and "can contribute, just not as well as normal" though. Someone who's a bit of a sped or has mobility impairments can sit around and weave baskets or help cook. That would also mean the able-bodied people wouldn't have to be using their time on those tasks and can instead use their time on things that are limited to able-bodied people. Give people the opportunities they're best suited for.
Anencephaly warriors, inside-out babies, and whatever happened to the Hartley girls wouldn't be able to contribute anything. They probably would also be fucking dead if they didn't have modern medical resources available.
I love downsy mouse. He should be the protagonist of a picture book.
(Based on just those photos, it looks like the main difference between field mouse and downsy mouse is about the same as the difference between field mouse and house mouse. Do they use field mice or house mice as the test subjects?)
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I'd imagine any dementia treatments developed from the downie mice would be available to people w/downs first and foremost as well, so hopefully the downie mice will even help existing people w/downs 
That's something nice to think about amidst the Archie child corpse horrorshow.
That's something nice to think about amidst the Archie child corpse horrorshow.
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Who's ready for that karate event to raise money for Archie tomorrow??
BBJ_4_Ever
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They are specially bred mice. This abstract goes into detail.
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To my mind it doesn't even matter if someone can work in any way- we live in a world with enough resources that it makes little difference if someone can only be present and conscious. We can still feed them and medically care for them, the family may enjoy knowing them. Eugenics is a pretty bad stance in most context including this.
However it's horrifying and wicked to keep a body warm with machinery, that is a true waste of medical resources. If someone is brain dead they are just a corpse with machines moving parts of it to keep it from decomposing. It's even worse to produce and keep alive people who can experience nothing but pain- many of the anencephaly kids, the Hartley kids, Jaxon, they fit this category. Just enough brain stem to hurt all the time, not enough to know why, or to tell others what the problem is. Those are the stories that wreck me.
The drain on medical staff of resuscitating a corpse daily can't be overstated. Medical workers are quitting en masse right now, the pressure of covid plus the battles with idiot families and low pay, threats, long hours. The better doctors and nurses are leaving the professions and only the worst are staying. Pretty soon these kids will just be dying from lack of care, lack of resources, no matter how much the crazy mlm moms scream about it.
Garbage.Theory
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I'd imagine any dementia treatments developed from the downie mice would be available to people w/downs first and foremost as well, so hopefully the downie mice will even help existing people w/downs
That's something nice to think about amidst the Archie child corpse horrorshow.
This thread is getting a real “Flowers for Algernon” vibe to it today.
alzheimer's Is more prevalent in people with Down’s due to a few extra shitty mutations in their DNA. It’s all early onset and they can develop the disease in their early 40s. Activists with Down’s are at the forefront of Alzheimer’s awareness, so they are all doing good work.
That said, drugs aren’t developed solely in mice, even Down’s mice, and there would be several clinical trials before a medicine hit the shelves.
Happily, it looks like there has been a recent, and accidental breakthrough. With Viagra.
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I thought thanatophoric dysplasia was a form of dwarfism unrelated to achondroplasia that can occur randomly, rather than “double dwarfism” as you’re saying? I mean, both of her parents are average height for starters, and if many forms of dwarfism are autosomal dominant, you surely need two dwarf parents to make a double dwarfism baby.
As an example, there’s an Australian couple who are Instagram famous and have three kids. The mother has Achondroplasia, the father has geleophysic dysplasia. One kid has mom’s type, one kid has dad’s type, and one kid will be average height. They explained there’s a 25% chance of each, the final 25% being a baby inheriting both types.
They were really lucky not to do that, because they were very upfront that they would terminate if tests at 20 weeks showed that. Risky odds.