Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.

It should be noted that there's a good case to be made that the current Omicron strain is a either a lab escapee or release itself: It's last related ancestor shows up in genomic surveillance somewhere around mid-2020 and by early 2021 related lineages had died out in wild. Only for it to reemerge with lots off odd mutations, substantial immune evasion capability and much milder sympthoms. Either somebody tried to GoF a future immune escape variant or somebody was working on a depowered virus for vaccine research.
It used to be a theory workshopped on /pol/ that the Omicron strain was a product of "good guy rogue researchers" who released Omicron to outcompete the alpha strain lineage which was going to run the risk of giving a significant portion of the global population a prion or amyloid disease. Omicron, at least according to a  preprint paper, mysteriously lacks the prion-causing protein sequence of all the previous strains.
 
Yes I live in Melbourne so I'm aware we had a few lockdowns.

Point is that since January over 90% of the Australian population has been infected with Covid, likely it's close to 100% at this point. Overall our levels of infection and hence natural immunity are now exactly the same as everywhere else. However if we compare our ongoing Covid transmission rates they're way, way higher than other countries despite our very high vaccination rates. We're in the middle of our winter and we've been subjected to days of hysterical stories in the media about overwhelmed hospitals and mass deaths due to some purported new Omicron super strain while in South Africa, also in the middle of it's winter, Covid has disappeared. Why? What's the difference? No one here asks, it's just the same monotonous bullshit about vaccination and masks.

Didn't the new strain come from South Africa and so there is lag time in surges? Also isn't there always the giant issue when comparing cases that there is no universal standardised testing. COVID is worse in countries that are more concerned and doing more testing.

There's always been the giant misdirect of comparing positive cases in different countries as being relative to each other. Part of the whole, "we don't know what is going on."
 
Yes as opposed to the one in a million chance of dying from Covid if you aren’t a hambeast or ancient. These motherfuckers are sick.
There was an awesome calculator some university in the UK made that determined your risk of death or hospitalization. I plugged in my own data (I'm young and fit) and it said 1 in 12000 risk of hospitalization (which you know is bullshit high because of munchies going to the hospital upon hearing they have the Chinese virus). It's fucking mindblowing they want fit, healthy people to take a drug that is more likely to cripple them than the virus (same calculator said my risk of death is like 1-in-350K or some shit, it's been a while, another BS stat manipulated by people. I'm not even particularly young anymore and there's millions of people with even less risk, it gets so much worse when they're Moloch'ing up kids and teens with the vaxx.

Many cases of "long COVID" appear to be vaxx-derived, while the vaxx is currently the deadliest product marketed as a vaccine in history going by even the official stats. There's no doubt that getting vaxxed will be to young people what catching the virus back in 2020 was to the elderly, but unlike back then, it's going to be a slow-moving catastrophe akin to the opioid epidemic.
 
There was an awesome calculator some university in the UK made that determined your risk of death or hospitalization. I plugged in my own data (I'm young and fit) and it said 1 in 12000 risk of hospitalization (which you know is bullshit high because of munchies going to the hospital upon hearing they have the Chinese virus). It's fucking mindblowing they want fit, healthy people to take a drug that is more likely to cripple them than the virus (same calculator said my risk of death is like 1-in-350K or some shit, it's been a while, another BS stat manipulated by people. I'm not even particularly young anymore and there's millions of people with even less risk, it gets so much worse when they're Moloch'ing up kids and teens with the vaxx.

Many cases of "long COVID" appear to be vaxx-derived, while the vaxx is currently the deadliest product marketed as a vaccine in history going by even the official stats. There's no doubt that getting vaxxed will be to young people what catching the virus back in 2020 was to the elderly, but unlike back then, it's going to be a slow-moving catastrophe akin to the opioid epidemic.


Another aspect of the data is that everyone has already had the virus. Most had no symptoms so they didn't know they had it. At this point most positive test are at home and not reported.

This means the death rate is actually significantly lower then what they are calculating based off reported positive test.
 
The Mirror posted an article wondering if the Covid infection depends of the differents blood types. Note then the first archived version on Archive.today don't have the video.
Covid-19 infections continue to rise in the UK, despite the government's plans to live with the disease.
The number of people in hospital in England who have tested positive for Covid-19 climbed above 10,000 for the first time since April, reaching 10,658 on July 4, up 36% week-on-week.
An estimated 2.3 million across the UK tested positive for Covid-19 in the week ending 24 June, recording a sharp 32% rise from a week earlier.
With a stark rise in infections many may be worried about their risk of catching the virus whether for the first time or again.
Turns out your risk may be significantly lowered depending on the type of blood you have, says research.
 
Follow up to this random pro-vaxxer in my DMs yesterday.

After my reply to his messages, the guy has MORE to say :story:

Here are some NICE snippets of how retarded this person is:
  • Yes, I’m confronting you regarding this issue because it’s fucking sickening to see the way you brainwash your friends and family to avoid vaccination at all cost. Why don’t you complain about other mandatory vaccinations?
  • Yes, covid vaccine DOES NOT protect you completely, but it DOES protect you up to a certain extent or at least until the strike from new variants that are immune against the currently available vaccines.
  • Why enforcing vaccination instead of giving people the freedom to choose? Reason is simple because everyone deserves the right to be hospitalised, and hospitals will be flooded with patients who got hit hard by COVID, thus leaving insufficient rooms for those who actually require hospitalisation
  • I don’t see how this is considered a scam, unless you think that these thousands of researchers across the world are heftily paid by Pfizer, sinovac, etc just to brainwash people into getting their jabs.
  • Person 1-100 have gotten the vaccine, but after exposing them to the virus, person 1 develops symptoms, but 2-100 don’t, and you just concluded that the vaccine doesn’t work? There’re a ton of explanation for this situation. Person 1 might have relatively weaker or slower immune response, person 1 might have been leading an unhealthy lifestyle, person 1 might have had history of certain genetic disorders that fucked up organs that are prone to COVID infection, etc. You said people around you still get it, then why don’t you talk about people around you who DOES NOT get it? Oh because they are lucky enough to escape the virus despite being exposed to hundreds or even thousands of people everyday? Oh because they work from home and try to avoid the crowd to minimise exposure to the COVID? Get the facts right dude!
  • I dare you screenshot all these and post them in your story and let your followers judge if you’re right about vaccination.
  • It doesn’t matter. It’s your delusional way of brainwashing people that is horrendously annoying.
  • Yeah I’m saying out loud, so don’t hide half of my replies. Post them all and let your followers judge who’s the retarded one.
I've established that this person has been following me for a while and looks like maybe they still are on their main account. It's definitely not the case of someone sharing my content to a random who decided to come and bug me (my initial assumption). This is someone I've met in person at least once.

That last line was literally their latest reply and I don't get it. I've already been sperging on my social media about the clot shots for literally the past year. I would think anyone who thinks I'm retarded has long unfollowed and unfriended me, except this seething vaccine cuck, obviously.

Vaccine cuck is confirmed because they had to use a throwaway account with a fake name and fake picture to "confront" me (on the internet LOOOOOL) instead of being the whole bitch and just writing from their account they're already using to follow me.

I'm not going to try to change their mind since this person is eyeballs deep in the narrative, but I'm more interested in uncovering who this is (I'm quite confident I can). Any suggestions on what fun I can have once I find out their identity?
 
Didn't the new strain come from South Africa and so there is lag time in surges? Also isn't there always the giant issue when comparing cases that there is no universal standardised testing. COVID is worse in countries that are more concerned and doing more testing.

There's always been the giant misdirect of comparing positive cases in different countries as being relative to each other. Part of the whole, "we don't know what is going on."
We have no idea where Omicron came from. It was first detected among a group of travelling European diplomats in, I think, Botswana and the first big outbreak detected was in South Africa. But that is likely due to the South Africans having excellent viral genomic tracking.

Omicron has now been around for 9 months, with various sub-variants (the same strain but with tiny genetic differences) popping up. Colour me sceptical that the current sperg out about these being more dangerous or infectious.



“With increasing cases and continued pressure on health systems across the country, it’s as important as ever that people isolate when they have Covid – consideration should be given to continuing any measures which support that,” said a Victorian government spokesperson on Friday.

Restoring gibs to maintain the isolation requirements is a worrying sign. Folks who are catching the coof are suffering anything from a mild cold to a moderately bad flu. People getting a second dose are overwhelmingly experiencing incredibly mild symptoms. The people in hospital with Covid are suffering incidental infections, i.e. they're not in hospital because they have Covid but suffering some other illness or injury and happen to be positive, unsurprising with such a wildly infectious virus. The people dying are very much with not off. At least half are nursing home residents receiving palliative care. Even so the death rates in aged care are less than 2%. The wife tells me that the last Covid outbreak they had in the place she works all of the old people suffered pretty mild infections, the odd cough, lethargy, being off their food for a few days. 2 people died, one of end stage cardiac failure and another from the side effects of the antivirals she was given. Both were marked down as Covid deaths on their death certificates.

So why the top down fear mongering about a bug that is 10 times less deadly than seasonal flu? Not a coincidence that this is happening at the same time that the economic situation is going from bad to dire.
 
  • Yes, I’m confronting you regarding this issue because it’s fucking sickening to see the way you brainwash your friends and family to avoid vaccination at all cost. Why don’t you complain about other mandatory vaccinations?
  • Yes, covid vaccine DOES NOT protect you completely, but it DOES protect you up to a certain extent or at least until the strike from new variants that are immune against the currently available vaccines.

Actually yes; most of the mandatory vaccines were most probably forced upon you during newborn, infant, and childhood phases, with approval from your parents. Any side effects you suffer from those vaccines (BCG spots, anyone?) were ignored because of the "good" they do, and because of how rare the side effects were.

This time though, apparently, you have to get FOUR jabs of the same vaccine! And it's still not enough, and we're still having a new COVID-19 wave coming, despite "polite society" having 3 jabs.

So yeah, thanks to this ineffective vaccine, nobody's free, and since this Pfizer/Moderna/whatever jab used the mythology of "vaccine", I'm interested in questioning the other vaccines in the past.

  • Why enforcing vaccination instead of giving people the freedom to choose? Reason is simple because everyone deserves the right to be hospitalised, and hospitals will be flooded with patients who got hit hard by COVID, thus leaving insufficient rooms for those who actually require hospitalisation
  • I don’t see how this is considered a scam, unless you think that these thousands of researchers across the world are heftily paid by Pfizer, sinovac, etc just to brainwash people into getting their jabs.
The president of the USA once said that the unvaccinated will fill the hospital beds. Right now, we see the exact opposite; jabbed compliant people filling up hospital beds instead.

As for the scam thing, while I can say that the vaccine manufacturer do some weird stuff (withholding data, shilling their jabs), I would point out that it is the governments of the world who purchased the jabs are the ones brainwashing their people into taking the jabs. They're the ones who got massive orders of the vaccine at an undisclosed price, and offer the vaccine to the people FOR FREE, and thus circumvent any cost-benefit analysis. When that didn't work, they institute discrimination policies to force the issue.

  • Person 1-100 have gotten the vaccine, but after exposing them to the virus, person 1 develops symptoms, but 2-100 don’t, and you just concluded that the vaccine doesn’t work? There’re a ton of explanation for this situation. Person 1 might have relatively weaker or slower immune response, person 1 might have been leading an unhealthy lifestyle, person 1 might have had history of certain genetic disorders that fucked up organs that are prone to COVID infection, etc. You said people around you still get it, then why don’t you talk about people around you who DOES NOT get it? Oh because they are lucky enough to escape the virus despite being exposed to hundreds or even thousands of people everyday? Oh because they work from home and try to avoid the crowd to minimise exposure to the COVID? Get the facts right dude!

The vaccine doesn't work at all. I'm waiting for the governments -- who knows exactly what kind of people are hospitalized due to COVID -- to admit it. On the small scale, everyone's a unique snowflake when it comes to their immune system, but governments see the largest scale of all -- the entire population -- and see patterns.
 
This time though, apparently, you have to get FOUR jabs of the same vaccine! And it's still not enough, and we're still having a new COVID-19 wave coming, despite "polite society" having 3 jabs.

It makes total sense. The new variant evades immunity caused by the vaccine, to protect yourself you need to get another shot of the vaccine.....

I think everyone paying attention and thinking is seeing that there is complete bullshit going on now. It is theatre.

I don't know if the original vaccines worked or not. Certainly when they came online in countries with low infection rates like Australia and New Zealand they were completely ineffective. As far as I am aware, there was no where suffering infection where the vaccines made any major dint in cases.

One thing I find curious is how they talk about vaccines as a unit. Shouldn't they know which vaccines now are better? Yet it's all just mythical vaccine. As a group as if the same. Shouldn't we expect some difference in how well they work? The lack of that information doesn't give me any confidence.

EDIT: To clarify when I said "completely ineffective" I mean they didn't work the way they were advertised. Maybe there was some benefit. Who fucking knows though.
 
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One thing I find curious is how they talk about vaccines as a unit. Shouldn't they know which vaccines now are better? Yet it's all just mythical vaccine. As a group as if the same. Shouldn't we expect some difference in how well they work? The lack of that information doesn't give me any confidence.
For anyone who knows about the scientific basis of the jabs, this is the biggest thing that should raise alarms. Not only are they different formulations (the spikes they use are, at least according to both companies, reconstituted in very different ways with different shelf storage lives), but the vector is chemically different.

Lipid nanoparticle formulations are proprietary and vary wildly in profile, not to even mention the adenovirus injections or direct spike injections which are a different vehicles entirely.
 
So why the top down fear mongering about a bug that is 10 times less deadly than seasonal flu? Not a coincidence that this is happening at the same time that the economic situation is going from bad to dire.
They wanted to make monkeypox the next big thing but it was spreading too slow and one study showed that like 95% of people getting it were openly gay. And literally nobody has died of the monkeypox strain in the west, not even the most AIDS-ridden homo. The public isn't buying that shit. It doesn't even have a scary name. "Covid-19" sounds like a mysterious and deadly bioweapon, "monkeypox" I think they hoped might get associated with smallpox but instead makes people think of some disease you'd get as a kid after a trip to the zoo (which you might if your teacher was a flaming faggot).

So they have to go back to the usual NEW S00PER D00PER DEADLY VARIANT if they want to prepare us for more lockdowns and mask/vaxx mandates, coincidentally just in time to manipulate some key 2022 elections in the US.
Actually yes; most of the mandatory vaccines were most probably forced upon you during newborn, infant, and childhood phases, with approval from your parents. Any side effects you suffer from those vaccines (BCG spots, anyone?) were ignored because of the "good" they do, and because of how rare the side effects were.
Thanks to this bullshit I'm now totally against ALL mandatory vaccination. If vaccines work (which all childhood vaccines do, since I've never gotten measles, chickenpox, whooping cough, etc.), then kids will be protected. The only exception is literally newborn infants in which case that's the parents's responsibility to vaccinate older siblings and keep them safe. And besides, how many babies would realistically die/suffer permanent harm who didn't have antivaxxer parents compared to the very rare risk of vaccine injuries?

Nice job, Fauci, you turned me into a fucking vaccine rights activist, something I literally thought I'd never be. I can't imagine how many people will swear off ALL vaccines because of the bullshit over this dangerous product fraudulently marketed as a vaccine.
 
Ok I have a question because I really just don’t understand these numbers that local governments are coming up with
And I know it’s easy to say well it’s just bs but truly, how are they trying to put these numbers out there ?

For instance Santa Clara county, CA
Case rate for unvaccinated - 268.2 per 100,000
Case rates over all for county - 50.1 per 100,000
Fully vaccinated case rates - 46.0 per 100,000

Now then the vaccination rates ,
Percentage of residents 5 and up vaccinated, 91.9%
There are hardly any unvaccinated people left

I’ve never been a math person at all but this makes zero sense to me
 
I'm amazed that the institutions I trust the least (the government and the media) expected me to get a vaccine just because they said so.

I mean, I can literally sit here all day and list examples about how the government and media have lied to push a narrative and benefit themselves, but THIS TIME, they are totally on the up and up.

Yeah, sure thing guys.
 
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Ok I have a question because I really just don’t understand these numbers that local governments are coming up with
And I know it’s easy to say well it’s just bs but truly, how are they trying to put these numbers out there ?

For instance Santa Clara county, CA
Case rate for unvaccinated - 268.2 per 100,000
Case rates over all for county - 50.1 per 100,000
Fully vaccinated case rates - 46.0 per 100,000

Now then the vaccination rates ,
Percentage of residents 5 and up vaccinated, 91.9%
There are hardly any unvaccinated people left

I’ve never been a math person at all but this makes zero sense to me
Since the amount of unvaxxed is so low in your county, it's possible that a handful getting sick just looks more impactful. Like if you have two cats and one died, your cat death rate was 50 per 100 cats. However, if you are a cat hoarder who has 100 cats and 25 die, this cat death rate would only be 25 per 100. I wouldn't call that better.

It might also be that less of them are bothering to go get formally diagnosed, too, since it's so minor and they feel safe from their shots. Unvaxxed who get cold feet and doubt their health might decide to go get the paxlovid.

You think you would run out of unvaxxed, although they are also potentially grouping partially vaxxed/unboosted into the unvaxxed group too, that sometimes happens, but then include them in the vaccinated total to make people feel more shame for not being part of the herd.

Everyone is going to catch covid though, but fortunately, it's a nothingburger right now.
 
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Nice job, Fauci, you turned me into a fucking vaccine rights activist, something I literally thought I'd never be. I can't imagine how many people will swear off ALL vaccines because of the bullshit over this dangerous product fraudulently marketed as a vaccine.
I'm now anti-vax lol.


Ok I have a question because I really just don’t understand these numbers that local governments are coming up with
And I know it’s easy to say well it’s just bs but truly, how are they trying to put these numbers out there ?

For instance Santa Clara county, CA
Case rate for unvaccinated - 268.2 per 100,000
Case rates over all for county - 50.1 per 100,000
Fully vaccinated case rates - 46.0 per 100,000

Now then the vaccination rates ,
Percentage of residents 5 and up vaccinated, 91.9%
There are hardly any unvaccinated people left

I’ve never been a math person at all but this makes zero sense to me
Unvaccinated means unboosted or only boosted once. Don't you know that vaccines wear out in a few months? Believe the science.
 
Nice job, Fauci, you turned me into a fucking vaccine rights activist, something I literally thought I'd never be. I can't imagine how many people will swear off ALL vaccines because of the bullshit over this dangerous product fraudulently marketed as a vaccine.
And those retarded gorilla nigger vaxxmaxxers and part-eggplants like Fraudci, the horse-faced whore from NZ, that weird guy from Germany who looks like the lead actor in a rape/murder snuff film, Trudeau who needs to be executed in my next Mount and Blade Bannerlord campaign, the prison wardens in that shitty prison island Australia, and many more will never take the blame for this. If they didn't literally have to redefine the word "vaccine" so that their shit gene therapy concoction fit the definition, if it was actually effective and not just the equivalent of holy water (holy water which can clot you to death in case of both the viral vector and mRNA jabs, with the mRNA jabs also coming with a plethora of other completely bonkers side effects), if it wasn't so aggressively pushed and basically made mandatory-but-not-mandatory-because-we-don't-wanna-get-sued-when-you-get-crippled-or-die, if they didn't have to change what The Science™ was at any given moment multiple times a month, contradicting themselves each time, this would've never happened. Antivaxxers would still be kooks who think that the polio vaccine causes the 'tism and that bleach cures autism. Fucking Botox injections are a more effective vaccine under the new definition, at least the effects of Botox injections last multiple years.
 
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