Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

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not a lot of people watching the stream by the end I gotta say
 
People cannot seem to seperate the audience from the paypigs. There were consistent tomatoes the entire stream, more likes than dislikes, chat was going on full revolt, but people are quick to bring up how much money they made. There are still a fair amount of viewers watching everything slowly fall, but they will surely lose their fans.
This is a debate about making money vs. providing entertainment and which one really matters. Anyone could accept money from paypigs, entertaining the minds of thousands of people takes work from the soul and they have lost their soul to ego.
 
People cannot seem to seperate the audience from the paypigs. There were consistent tomatoes the entire stream, more likes than dislikes, chat was going on full revolt, but people are quick to bring up how much money they made. There are still a fair amount of viewers watching everything slowly fall, but they will surely lose their fans.
This is a debate about making money vs. providing entertainment and which one really matters. Anyone could accept money from paypigs, entertaining the minds of thousands of people takes work from the soul and they have lost their soul to ego.
Once you crystallize a paypig herd, they're hard to truly shake off. Excuse the pun, but once someone has "bought in" into something, be it a new car or a few hundred dollars on an internet streamer, they'll rationalize the purchase and overlook faults to justify their financial investment. Plus, the act of paypigging builds a relationship that is more than the average viewer, once again leading to someone overlooking obvious faults.

So long as they can weather this storm and keep above 1000 live viewers, they'll take a hit to the piggy bank and their pride, but they will more than limp on. Ironically enough, it's guys like Ralph who prove how far you can fall, yet still retain a profitable audience.
 
Once you crystallize a paypig herd, they're hard to truly shake off. Excuse the pun, but once someone has "bought in" into something, be it a new car or a few hundred dollars on an internet streamer, they'll rationalize the purchase and overlook faults to justify their financial investment. Plus, the act of paypigging builds a relationship that is more than the average viewer, once again leading to someone overlooking obvious faults.

So long as they can weather this storm and keep above 1000 live viewers, they'll take a hit to the piggy bank and their pride, but they will more than limp on. Ironically enough, it's guys like Ralph who prove how far you can fall, yet still retain a profitable audience.
Agree, if they want to keep going they will probably be fine if they can push through episodes and time will do its thing, but the big question is can/will they handle pushing through that adversity?

Warski's not that good at this and PPP strikes me as someone who could easily lose interest if the fun is taken out of it by being mogged for being tards.

Just can't see them hang in there like Ralph did.
 
Once you crystallize a paypig herd, they're hard to truly shake off. Excuse the pun, but once someone has "bought in" into something, be it a new car or a few hundred dollars on an internet streamer, they'll rationalize the purchase and overlook faults to justify their financial investment. Plus, the act of paypigging builds a relationship that is more than the average viewer, once again leading to someone overlooking obvious faults.

So long as they can weather this storm and keep above 1000 live viewers, they'll take a hit to the piggy bank and their pride, but they will more than limp on. Ironically enough, it's guys like Ralph who prove how far you can fall, yet still retain a profitable audience.
It's sad to say, but paypigs get in the way of any change being put forth into a show. You would think that it would operate in a way where a content creator entertains and appeases to an audience and gets support and when they bore and belitte an audience that they lose support, but paypigs will always pay whether the creator is putting out good content or not.
 
Agree, if they want to keep going they will probably be fine if they can push through episodes and time will do its thing, but the big question is can/will they handle pushing through that adversity?

Warski's not that good at this and PPP strikes me as someone who could easily lose interest if the fun is taken out of it by being mogged for being tards.

Just can't see them hang in there like Ralph did.
I actually have more faith in Warski tard strengthening through. He's been through this multiple times before, under much worse conditions. While PPP is in a tough financial situation, he may not have the emotional wherewithal to withstand the storm, especially if Surfer keeps feeding Ralph personal emotional trigger points.
It's sad to say, but paypigs get in the way of any change being put forth into a show. You would think that it would operate in a way where a content creator entertains and appeases to an audience and gets support and when they bore and belitte an audience that they lose support, but paypigs will always pay whether the creator is putting out good content or not.
Over the long term, it is a losing strategy as the herd never grows or keeps at a constant with new blood, and the herd naturally cull itself over time, to the point you'd make more money flipping burgers. But if you're short sighted or more interested in having your ego rubbed, you can stagnate for a very long time once you have your core people. 80-20 principle in action.

I think it's possible PPP and Warski take this opportunity to cull some dead weight (IBS types who hate everyone, diehard non-paypiggers, fickle followers, ect) and pivot to catering and building toward a more normie viewer base. Honestly if I was Warski, I'd view this as a mixed blessing, as who fucking wants an audience like the IBS/post-IBS crowd: trolls, vindictive, never happy, wanting you to suffer, Kiwifarmers looking to dox you for fake internet points, people on /cow/ posting cum tributes of family members. Yeah you'll disappoint Daddy Jim over "selling out" the important art form of hosting retarded online debates where people compete to shout "SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER" the hardest, and reporting the going-ons of literal pants shitting retards. But he is dying of cancer and enjoys manga way more while sitting in the waiting room anyway.
 
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If you set things like donation amounts or viewcounts as winconditions before people like Ralph, PPP and Warski, they're always going to hit those numbers either legitimately or through falsifying them. Their egos are too huge to take the L. So regardless of what they say the numbers are It's no trustworthy indicator of their succes.

If you want to get to them just mock them regardless of what they do or how succesful or unsuccesful they are. Give them win-conditions to meet and they'll meet them either legit or they'll lie about it just to grab that W. These autistic discussions about whether donos or views are legit or not only gives them a W in their mind cause you're showing them that you want them to underperform in those areas, and they're not above lying about it to rob you of that satisfaction.

There's a lot these retards say and do that you can laugh at, and all they can do is cope about it when they do, just have a good time at their expense.
 
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They made $1660 tonight and had normal viewership numbers sure looks like they are sinking.
Maybe you just don't get it if you think that means anything.

There have always been two main audiences watching the KC: The people who need a braindead interactive radio show they can send their welfare checks to, and then the people who a-log for fun. All of the money comes from the braindead welfare people who could just as easily be watching somebody like Cog. They're the people who leave and stop sending donations, but they're not the ones in revolt. The only ones who are in revolt are the a-logs. Literally every single a-log can flip on the show and the dono tallies will not change 1 cent, and the viewership could easily stay exactly the same. They switch from tuning in to a-log Ralph/Nick/etc. through the KC to instead a-log the KC directly.

Given that the whole premise of the show is that people tune in to a-log WITH the hosts rather than a-log AT the hosts, then the show can't go on with things the way they are. It runs against the premise. Even the clueless fans who don't get or don't care about what is going on in the background will eventually feel like they're not "in" on anything any more because sentiment in the chat is too chaotic for their Cog viewer level brains. Andy and PPP know that's a huge problem for them that will eventually eat away at their donations. If you can't tell that the whole tone of their performance has changed to a "none of this is affecting us" cope session then there's no helping you.
 
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