Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

[behindyourightnow]

Lol he’s reading this thread. Cope and seethe, Gretchen. Burning all of us alive won’t bring your weird moobs closer together.

I wonder how this will work out, though:

https://archive.ph/MGF2a

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Clearly she was talking about cunnilingus.

 

[mrae]

There's something really special about making a grand announcement to reveal your relationship on social media, while being extremely performative and using public instagram comments as a messaging service so everyone can see and then pretending to be all ass mad that some people are being "tabloid mutants" and talking about said relationship in a way that you didn't sanction. It's like art, Micah. You don't get to control people's responses to it.

 

[homewayhalf]

Lol he’s reading this thread. Cope and seethe, Gretchen. Burning all of us alive won’t bring your weird moobs closer together.

I wonder how this will work out, though:

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https://archive.ph/MGF2a

As is typical with troons, his coom comes before his undeniably well-reasoned principles.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Step 1: Convince your healthy, rich husband that what you're really into is morbidly obese men on megadoses of female hormones
Step 2: Husband decides to go on estrogen and start binge eating to keep up with your sexual desires
Step 3: Husband dies young due to destroying his body for you
Step 4: You become a widow while you're still young and hot enough to enjoy fucking your pool boy and your tennis instructor

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

There's something really special about making a grand announcement to reveal your relationship on social media, while being extremely performative and using public instagram comments as a messaging service so everyone can see and then pretending to be all ass mad that some people are being "tabloid mutants" and talking about said relationship in a way that you didn't sanction. It's like art, Micah. You don't get to control people's responses to it.

This is what you get when you tweet Twitter like a personal blog.

As is typical with troons, his coom comes before his undeniably well-reasoned principles.

You know, there’s a great irony to Gretch. His entire brand up to the publication of Manhunt was that he rejected the performative uwu common in trans circles. He wasn’t soft, he didn’t shy away from the grotesque, and he was opposed to safetyism and moral prudery in publishing circles. Sometimes he even had good points or displayed a refreshing sense of maturity in regards to art. For example, he spoke out against “progressives” who threw Isabel Fall under a bus for… writing a sci fi story that made an ironic allusion to the attack helicopter joke. For context, the story was about a futuristic soldier whose neurology had been altered so they essentially regard their literal attack helicopter as an extension of themselves, identifying (get it?) with it more than their flesh and blood body. A lot of bad faith readers took one look at the title and assumed Fall was “transphobic”.

Fall was a trans woman.

Gretchen thought this was bullshit, and I agree. Whatever I think of the trans thing, the witch hunt against Isabel was cruel and stupid.

Gretchen clearly believes transgression in art is important. This is true. But only so long as that “transgression” agrees with her politics and ontology. Because calling “cis white women” bitches and calling for their rape and murder while being a fat man with longish hair is about as “transgressive” in the current climate as the fucking MCU.

Also, I bet Nicole’s trying to score some cheap “bisexual“ points.

 

[mold]

For context, the story was about a futuristic soldier whose neurology had been altered so they essentially regard their literal attack helicopter as an extension of themselves, identifying (get it?) with it more than their flesh and blood body.

out of curiosity, does this story or any of the internetting about it make any reference to The Ship Who Sang?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ship_Who_Sang

I'm betting it doesn't cause none of these fuckers actually read

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

out of curiosity, does this story or any of the internetting about it make any reference to The Ship Who Sang?

Nope. But it’s not quite the same scenario anyway. The protagonist isn’t wired into the helicopter, and is both still capable and must occasionally leave it to… well, do anything besides wage war. While I disagree with the author’s view of gender I think it’s at least very solidly written and thoughtful. Personally, I suspect a lot of the backlash comes from people taking offence at the idea that “gender identity” is something tangible that can be rewritten with advanced neuroscience. Trans-medicalism not being the en-vogue flavour of bullshit right now.

 

[mold]

Nope. But it’s not quite the same scenario anyway. The protagonist isn’t wired into the helicopter, and is both still capable and must occasionally leave it to… well, do anything besides wage war. While I disagree with the author’s view of gender I think it’s at least very solidly written and thoughtful. Personally, I suspect a lot of the backlash comes from people taking offence at the idea that “gender identity” is something tangible that can be rewritten with advanced neuroscience. Trans-medicalism not being the en-vogue flavour of bullshit right now.

it's not the same scenario but there is a general total lack of reading of the 20th century scifi greats and I like to make fun of those people all the time at every opportunity for NOT BEING ABLE TO READ

 

[homewayhalf]

it's not the same scenario but there is a general total lack of reading of the 20th century scifi greats and I like to make fun of those people all the time at every opportunity for NOT BEING ABLE TO READ

It’s always the people who emerge from hours-long zombie sessions on TikTok who “don’t have time to read.” Literary types trying to appeal to terminally online troons & their sycophants who haven’t cracked open a book since they developed PTSD from being forced to read a Shakespeare excerpt in high school is such a losing game.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

it's not the same scenario but there is a general total lack of reading of the 20th century scifi greats and I like to make fun of those people all the time at every opportunity for NOT BEING ABLE TO READ

That’s true. At best they’ll a token mention of one of the authors you’re still allowed to like, like Ursula Le Guin. Who don’t get me wrong, was a fantastic author everyone should read a bit off. But breadth is important. Hell, that applies to quality, too. As Alan Moore recently said, an important learning tool is also reading bad books.

 

[mold]

they're just dumb and bad at reading. that's why they're impressed by slightly above average intelligence, like what Joe has.

 

[Help Me Move This Table]

they're just dumb and bad at reading. that's why they're impressed by slightly above average intelligence, like what Joe has.

Also, ugly people have to be able to lie to themselves intellectualize about how they’re *actually* attracted to brains and ideas

 

[AirdropShitposts]

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Gretch thinks we're important enough to get the treatment that true and honest witches got for undermining good Christian society?

Why is Gretch reading the Lavery's thread (or anywhere else on the Kiwi Farms) if they aren't being tabloid mutants themselves for more than five minutes?

 

[rocknrollmartian]

This nasty, misshapen pig-man freak needs court-ordered anger management classes. Go pick on slovenly obese dudes your own size and leave women alone.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Gretchen is driven into a murderous rage whenever someone doesn’t react to his kingly ideas and performances the way he wants. We must agree that he is a woman, that he is a great writer whose book is not sadly in need of a structural editor, that his very public relationship must not be commented on with anything but reverence.

In his mind, failure to react appropriately (and thus damaging his feelings) is a crime for which being executed is a proportionate punishment. Whether it’s people on an internet gossip site being burned alive, or Kathleen Stock being publicly hanged for not thinking that he is a woman:

https://archive.ph/7WoeP

He dresses it up in all kinds of social justice words and posturing, but that is what is underneath it all. If a person (particularly a woman) hurts Gretchen and makes him feel silly or small, they deserve to die.

Thing is, he probably thinks this attitude fits with the cool horror-fan persona he is trying to present, when it really makes him look like just another insecure little fat man.

 

[Russiahatesfags]

Just when I thought these cows were getting a little dry, Cliffe comes in with this absolute masterpiece of a terrible decision! God bless. I hope she troons out, mostly because she would pass in a way Mallory could only dream of.

Also, there's a pretty funny thread where some brave kiwis are reading and roasting Micah's book about the TroonPocalypse here, if anyone's interested.

Truly the universe is love
I thought the thread was waning but it comes roaring back to life.
this has to be a joke though? Is Nicole in some weird competition with Mallory?

How perfect that Micah is reading the thread and wants to burn everyone alive. I'll have to refresh my memory of fair use and satire and etc but I can't wait to envision Micah here as a protagonist in a story like his own, hunted and raped to death with a machete in the Yukon territory, or whatever his asinine book was about

 

[Trianon]

Gretch deleted all the posts about the relationship, citing the fact that there were a few people on Twitter who thought Nicole's "acres of skin" comment was gross and extra.





The mockery and disgust:




Dhaaruni is right, let her speak! Like literally nothing that has been said about this, including on this thread, comes close to what Gretch spews out on a regular basis. And yet.

Here are the deleted tweets in full (from r/blogsnark ... which I guess came from Dhaaruni's phone! Way to go, Dhaaruni!):

 

[Dr. Butt]

Micah wants us burned alive so he can eat us. A mass grave of women is just a big chafing dish of pork chops to his planet-sized arse.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Gretch deleted all the posts about the relationship, citing the fact that there were a few people on Twitter who thought Nicole's "acres of skin" comment was gross and extra.

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Wild that a community that Gretch constantly contributes to that spins up hatred and bile to bring down others would actually do this. They never seem to realize that their targets are actually one of the good people this time and that it shouldn't be allowed.