Jerma985 - Because fuck it, let’s get a Jerma thread going. Meow.

[Gig Bucking Fun]

I always see clips of this guy recommended to me. Never sat down to watch a stream or even a video, but his clips are pretty funny. I think the issue with him is he entertains his fanbase too much. He seems like an entertaining guy, but he lets himself get corrupted by the absolute cancer that is the Twitch audience. Of course, you can’t expect much from people who have nothing better to do than sit down and watch some autist fumble on a computer for seven hours straight.

 

[GhostButt]

ny. I think the issue with him is he entertains his fanbase too much. He seems like an entertaining guy, but he lets himself get corrupted by the absolute cancer that is the Twitch audience.

A big part of his Thing, is being 'The Entertainer' even going back to before the streams when he was just doing tf2 vids, he would do this Presenter persona, but you could tell he was forcing it like a character. Not to give him so much credit as to say that it's all an act or something, but, he is very much leaning into it, and unfortunately that leads to playing into chat's zoomer tendincies.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

Jerma's streams were at their peak during the first two or three years from his transfer from Youtube to Twitch. Most of the fanbase was still people from the old days who while rowdy and egged him on to do weird shit never took it beyond a quick joke and Jerma himself still had some constraints. I personally felt the change in the audience and content focus when he started talking with and collabing with that "Ludwig" guy because that was when he started dipping his feet into the mainstream twitch crowds. The dollhouse streams and other IRL stuff continued to mesh the audiences together until the old fans became the minority and the generic hivebrand ones took control.

I just hope he finds a way to handle these degenerates in chat before it inevitably blows up in his face like him getting canceled or whatever for saying the wrong opinion or pissing off his parasocial lusters like what happened to Vinny.

 

[BiggerChungus]

I always see clips of this guy recommended to me. Never sat down to watch a stream or even a video, but his clips are pretty funny. I think the issue with him is he entertains his fanbase too much. He seems like an entertaining guy, but he lets himself get corrupted by the absolute cancer that is the Twitch audience. Of course, you can’t expect much from people who have nothing better to do than sit down and watch some autist fumble on a computer for seven hours straight.

I can't blame him though. I think that he doesn't enjoy streaming as much as he used to, to some extent, but he really doesn't have a choice when this is his only source of income. Living in an extremely expensive Las Vegas apartment with his only non-internet work history being a substitute teacher (AFAIK), and yeah, it's not hard to see why he'd be desperate to sell out for a Twitch audience if the alternative's being basically broke and out on the street.

 

[_squall]

I can't blame him though. I think that he doesn't enjoy streaming as much as he used to, to some extent, but he really doesn't have a choice when this is his only source of income. Living in an extremely expensive Las Vegas apartment with his only non-internet work history being a substitute teacher (AFAIK), and yeah, it's not hard to see why he'd be desperate to sell out for a Twitch audience if the alternative's being basically broke and out on the street.

Maybe this is a wildly optimistic guess, but he could probably quit streaming today and live off of the money he's made in the last 2 years alone unless
A: he genuinely paid for most of the IRL streams out of pocket to the point of near-bankruptcy each time
or
B: he's horrible with money in general and hasn't been saving or investing any
Either of these are pretty unlikely IMO. He'd be fine if he quit.

 

[Autistic Mushroom]

I don't think he's just cynically streaming still because it's effectively his career, but I can also absolutely believe that being a nearly middle aged man dealing with his popularity bringing an ever younger audience has an effect on his enjoyment. The Jerma Fan Pipeline used to be: enjoy chill/funny videos, enjoy chill/funny streams, cycle of memes and references within the community begins. I saw a lot of people celebrating him being big enough now that people see Jerma memes everywhere now but there's been nothing good from that. Now people come because of catboy and among us memes. They're like skinwalkers, "Jerma fans" only through osmosis of references and imitation so they can have another place to shit up with pride flag emote spam. I guess what I'm saying is the community is becoming much more superficial and has no real identity outside of just being another mainstream twitch crowd anymore.

 

[dilettante]

There isn't much I want to add to this conversation except... where did it all go wrong? I look at another streamer like Vargskelethor Joel - who has the same interaction with his audience as he did five or ten years ago - and compare to Jeremy and Vinny, who've let a toxic chat influence their content. For Jeremy it was probably the comment he made about trannies being accepted in his community; they took it as a sign that he loves trannies rather than simply tolerates them. Showing community art also seems to attract these weird attention-seeking parasocially-attached types. Is it the fact that they're conventionally more attractive than Joel, or maybe less unsympathetic to chat's whims?

 

[Korpon]

On the topic of shitty new fans, I'm reminded of a moment from a stream two months ago where Jerma retold the peepance story with BurgahBoy and someone in chat goes "Who the fuck is burgahboy?" (25:42 if timestamp doesn't work)

It's a minor thing yea but it slightly chaps my ass and is a reminder the OG fans are a minority now as mentioned above.

 

[GhostButt]

Joel

when your username contains a reference to varg vikernes, no pathetic "chat" can influence you.

 

[likeacrackado]

For Jeremy it was probably the comment he made about trannies being accepted in his community; they took it as a sign that he loves trannies rather than simply tolerates them.

You could say that mini-rant was the beginning of the end, but really it was just a single point during the takeover of the community by the trannies/weird sex people, who are now being overshadowed by the generic twitch zoomers. Surprised more people aren't bringing up the Hbomberguy host. As someone who regularly watched his streams from around 2016-2020 I see that as an inflection point where Jerma's content was exposed to a malignant audience who would go on to derail the community.

Odd to say now, those first couple years(and presumably the years before I watched frequently) Jerma's chat was the best I'd ever come across. Things were chill and his comedy and personality came through naturally. I vividly remember slogging through a study session with his monster hunter stream in the background, including co-commentary by Kim.

 

[Autistic Mushroom]

There isn't much I want to add to this conversation except... where did it all go wrong?

It all began in New Jersey.

 

[Din Djarin]

I still enjoy watching Jerma and look forward to his streams (especially when I just close and ignore chat), but maybe that's because I didn't start watching until about a year ago? So I missed when he was newer and didn't bow to chat as much.

 

[Chucklenuts]

I'm a newer fan, probably 2 years now, and never followed super closely, but the doll house stream was when I really noticed how present the Non-Reproductives are in his community. Always picking the "flirt" option, woo-hooing with death, shit a 12 year old would do when playing Sims for the first time, it got really unfunny really quick.

 

[Feline Companion]

Jerma's content used to be much better... But ever since the plague hit, things haven't been the same...

 

[GhostButt]

This ad stream for the wb smash clone, which would've been terrible on it's own, has fucking hasan doing horrible fake hype, and the people calling hasan a "himbo" have keffals fanart? Why are people treating hasan like a normal streamer? I thought he was a debate fag? Am I in actual hell?

I'm okay with the current state of jerma streams being not really 100% for Me, but this is just painful.

 

[Agarathium1066]

This ad stream for the wb smash clone, which would've been terrible on it's own, has fucking hasan doing horrible fake hype, and the people calling hasan a "himbo" have keffals fanart? Why are people treating hasan like a normal streamer? I thought he was a debate fag? Am I in actual hell?

I'm okay with the current state of jerma streams being not really 100% for Me, but this is just painful.

I caught a few of his edited videos of 'crossover' events and it was mostly off-putting. I get its a popular thing and the man does this for a living and usually seems to enjoy himself.

At this point I mostly look over the edited stuff that is posted onto his channel or onto the many, many sub-branches of uploaders. It's just been less and less appealing. Might be we're getting old and Jerma's appealing to a younger crowd. Or is just happy to have a crowd so he has no issue with the hyper-horny troon squad.

 

[Idiocy Abroad]

This ad stream for the wb smash clone, which would've been terrible on it's own, has fucking hasan doing horrible fake hype, and the people calling hasan a "himbo" have keffals fanart? Why are people treating hasan like a normal streamer? I thought he was a debate fag? Am I in actual hell?

I'm okay with the current state of jerma streams being not really 100% for Me, but this is just painful.

He's collabing with Hasan? Fucking gross. Did he force Jerma to say "Communism will win" if he lost a match? Or talk about how he won't play as Batman because he's a bougie chud that beats up poor struggling working class citizens of Gotham that were forced into crime? I'd love to know how much he interjected his stupid gay politics into a game about Bugs Bunny smacking the shit out of Steven Universe, but there's not enough alcohol in the world that could get me through actually watching it.

 

[Toolbox]

He's collabing with Hasan? Fucking gross. Did he force Jerma to say "Communism will win" if he lost a match? Or talk about how he won't play as Batman because he's a bougie chud that beats up poor struggling working class citizens of Gotham that were forced into crime? I'd love to know how much he interjected his stupid gay politics into a game about Bugs Bunny smacking the shit out of Steven Universe, but there's not enough alcohol in the world that could get me through actually watching it.

Speaking of the weird Hasan connection, when did this Ludwig character feel the need to get involved with breadtube shit? I don't know much about him but he didn't seem to be going for that.

 

[Feline Companion]

Hasan was likely invited by Ludwig as those two have collabed before, and from the little I've seen of those collabs I can give Hasan a little bit of credit as he seemed to hold back from bringing up his politics TOO MUCH (and when it was brought up it was usually laughed off).

As for how Ludwig got involved with these types, I always felt like Lud is rather opportunistic and is looking for any way to connect with bigger streamers to help himself grow and ended up connecting with Hasan through others. I don't believe he himself is interested in the political shit as much as he sees the streamer as a way to boost his views and in turn revenue.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Nah, he's the one who has changed. Go back and watch an older stream from around 2018 or earlier and it's like night and day, especially with how he interacts with the chat. He's just gotten too big. Streams are best when they're in the 300-1000 viewer range. Anything more than that and it's just walls of retards spamming for attention. And I know people will say "Just don't read the chat" but if you have a streamer like Jerma that frequently interacts with them it's going to bleed into the normal content whether you like it or not. Same thing happened with Vinesauce over the years. It's sad to see, but it happens to almost all the good content creators eventually.

Vinesauce is not even remotely comparable. You compare 5 years ago to now and nothing's changed, least not in comparison to Jerma. I'd know; I was there the same as you were, most likely.
Edit: Especially now that I've seen he collaborated with fucking Hasan? Yeah, no, Vinny wouldn't touch something like that with a 50 fucking foot pole. Not comparable at ALL.