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Rumor: The Lord Of The Rings Scholar Tom Shippey Fired For Telling Prime Video They Were “Polluting The Lore”​

Disregarding the black dwarf queen?? and the female orcs in battle, the show was always going to "pollute the lore" considering the Tolkien Estate would only sell the rights to LOTR and not The Silmarillion. The compressed timeline will be the undoing of this show.
 
Honestly? I think they will add a lot of non Tolkien elements into the show-the meteor thing, and probably other generic crap. Amazon may have signed an agreement that they would not trash the lore-but who exactly is going to stop them from doing so? Does the Tolkien estate have any right to put their hands up and say "show cancelled, you broke your word"-if not, then there is no such safeguard.
 
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Rumor: The Lord Of The Rings Scholar Tom Shippey Fired For Telling Prime Video They Were “Polluting The Lore”​

Now this new rumor from YouTuber George Molho of YouTube channel George The Giant Slayer claims Shippey was actually canned because he was warning Prime Video that they were “polluting the lore.”
Oh, boy. For those who don't know/don't read the KF ComicsGate thread, George Molho a/k/a GEEEOOORRRGGGGGEEEEE is (or possibly was?) probably the biggest paypiggie of YouTuber Nerdrotic, donating literally hundreds of dollars in "Superchats" weekly. He apparently had some sort of meltdown when Alex Jones was on-stream and Nerdrotic was not reading Superchats, and stopped giving, at least on a regular basis, at least as much. (The link above relates to the meltdown.)

In sum, I'd put anything he says at about Doomcock tier, personally. I guess it could be right, but, yeah, I'm skeptical.
 
sum, I'd put anything he says at about Doomcock tier, personally. I guess it could be right, but, yeah, I'm skeptical.
We talked about this a while back. The only information we know for certain, iirc, is that Shippey left the production for vague reasons. Everything else is just speculation. Considering how much of a mess this production seems to have been it could be due to a number of things.
 
The sad fact is, Amazon is going to make billions with this show, whether every Tolkien fan doesn't watch or does. Its simply too well respected as an IP. Maybe if it does badly enough that will sour Amazon on doing more abominations of Tolkien's work, but this five season abortion is going to happen whether I or anyone else wants it to or not.
 
We talked about this a while back. The only information we know for certain, iirc, is that Shippey left the production for vague reasons. Everything else is just speculation. Considering how much of a mess this production seems to have been it could be due to a number of things.
Yeah, Shippey (an actual Tolkien scholar) left and they replaced him with a Tolkien "scholar" bitch whose existence so far seems to only be to justify Amazon's diverse casting decisions in articles.
 
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The sad fact is, Amazon is going to make billions with this show, whether every Tolkien fan doesn't watch or does. Its simply too well respected as an IP. Maybe if it does badly enough that will sour Amazon on doing more abominations of Tolkien's work, but this five season abortion is going to happen whether I or anyone else wants it to or not.
That's way too pessimistic. It's a TV show exclusively on a streaming service, not a TV show being broadcast to cable or a movie being played in theaters. The only way Amazon loses money is through Prime losing users or stagnating, which would not solely be the fault of a single show if it happens. Not to mention that Prime is not just a streaming service, but multiple services bundled together. This show is absurdly expensive for a TV show, but half a billion dollars is just a drop in the bucket for for a megacorp like Amazon, which lends credence to the idea that this is possibly a tax write-off.
The main point of this show would be to draw in new subscribers who continue to pay for their services and encourages already-existing users to renew their subscriptions. If it fails to make a significant change in the long run, it will have been a failure. If people literally only get prime to just watch the show then cancel their subscription right afterwards, that is a failure.
Not an expert in business, but this is just what I think.
 
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Here's Gil-Galad.
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This came out a few weeks ago, but I was curious what you thought of it. My biggest complaint is the middle-aged elf look and the prominence of gold over silver. Also the rings make him look like some sort of corrupt noble. Also the laurel wreath looks out of place to me.
 
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Here's Gil-Galad.
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This came out a few weeks ago, but I was curious what you thought of it. My biggest complaint is the middle-aged elf look and the prominence of gold over silver. Also the rings make him look like some sort of corrupt noble. Also the laurel wreath looks out of place to me.
Marvel-tier costuming. Doesn't look terrible, but it's basically "eh, good enough". Nobody put their passion into this costume. Say what you will about the Jackson films, the costuming department absolutely nailed it in terms of creating outfits that looked "fantastic" yet authentic and created a sense of cultural identity.
 
Marvel-tier costuming. Doesn't look terrible, but it's basically "eh, good enough". Nobody put their passion into this costume. Say what you will about the Jackson films, the costuming department absolutely nailed it in terms of creating outfits that looked "fantastic" yet authentic and created a sense of cultural identity.
The only really smart thing about the design is the presence of star emblems. Gil-Galad's name meant starlight or bright star. Except the color in Tolkien's works that is associated with starlight is white and silver, not gold, so the heavy presence of gold makes him look like some sort of decadent nobleman. His hair was also supposed to be silver according to Tolkien's notes. The color gold is associated with the House of Finarfin, which Gil-Galad is a member of, it's true, but the heaviest symbol associated with him is a single silver star.
The weapon he is carrying is Aeglos, his spear (also referred to as a lance so it probably was mean to be used on horseback), meaning ice-point (another silver reference), by the way. Only named polearm in Tolkien's works to my knowledge.
And yeah, he looks like someone out of Thor: the Dark World. I was trying to think of a specific term for it but that sums it up pretty well.
 
Here's Gil-Galad.
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This came out a few weeks ago, but I was curious what you thought of it. My biggest complaint is the middle-aged elf look and the prominence of gold over silver. Also the rings make him look like some sort of corrupt noble. Also the laurel wreath looks out of place to me.

Ehh, it's fine. Has anyone read the Cirth on his chest? Is it a warding spell or a nametag?

I'll probably pick up the soundtrack at some point to hear what Howard Shore and Bear McCreary come up with. And I've always wanted to hear Raya Yarborough sing in Elvish. Really looking forward to the scene where Halbrand/Meteor Man realizes his memories were wiped by the Valar in the War of Wrath. He's Sauron, and he always has been. ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER

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They had Bear and his orchestra on stage to play a bit of the score (only 20s because it was uploaded on Twitter)



Also this:

 
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Did they cast out of a crackhouse? Sauron is supposed to be angelically beautiful.


Main SDCC trailer. The Eminem looking guy is Sauron. Not surprised at all that they made the big bad a white male for this.
to be fair, Sauron would have appeared a Maia and before the elves of Eregion so yes he'd be "white"-meaning fair.

My issue is the actor is bug fuck ugly.

Skimmed the rest of the trailer-looks cringe.
 
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Sauron is supposed to be my beautiful unrealistically gorgeous husbando who tf is this weasel-faced motherfucker
Its a villainous archetype-scummy, hunched back, cloak, pale ugly skin and uneven teeth. Probably directly copied from Wormtongue in the Jackson movies, or Satan from Passion of the Christ.
 
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