Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th/47th President of the USA, convicted felon, Epstein bro, Putin simp, serial liar, sore loser, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE THREAD.

[Random Internet Person]

Conservatives will always have some internal logic to explain the contradictions in their beliefs.

And will go for anything if it means owning the libs.

 

[Netizennameless]

I'm having a hard time reconciling the attacks on Biden's clear lack of mental competence with the fact that many of these same people want Trump to run in 2024 at age 78. Like, seriously...he wasn't that good the first time.

It's easy. Trump is an attention tank. When he is president, congress freaks out and spends all it's energy on him. Government gridlocks and does nothing at all, leaving the people alone to live our lives.

Personally i would vote for DeSantis before Trump again. 78 is quite old for a president and we could use some new blood.

Conservatives will always have some internal logic to explain the contradictions in their beliefs.

No contradictions here. See my above explanation.

 

[AskeDead]

i can see trump running again but with joe brandon having the lowest approval rating of any president in history, i can't really see him running in 2024.

 

[awoo]

I'm having a hard time reconciling the attacks on Biden's clear lack of mental competence with the fact that many of these same people want Trump to run in 2024 at age 78. Like, seriously...he wasn't that good the first time.

Trump is old but doesn't look like he needs to be puppeted around by handlers. Of course the Trump of 30 years ago would be better but maybe we'll only get that in DeSantis, who probably has enough appeal among Trumpers and more reserved Republicans to win large swaths of the country (including latinos).

 

[Wormy]

A bit of a politisperging idea of Trump announcing his run for 2024 after the 2022 midterms. I believe he has several ways to spin it all that would easily favor a 2024 run.

So where does that put the "Trump will regain the White House in a matter of days!" people?

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

trump uses a lot of fabian strategy and does so openly when it comes to how he does his politicking and it's very different from the way that most politicians have done it. a lot of stuff that he did was completely out of left field because people don't expect someone like the president to be openly feinting and drawing conflicts out unecessarily - and it worked REALLY WELL. the problem is that the majority of voters don't really care about what he actually accomplished and they really only care about there being a man in a suit to look up to, and trump's whole schtick is that he isn't someone to look up to but he gets the job done.

people don't like biden, yeah, but there are A LOT of people who do like him. that isn't some sort of self-delusion over his capabilities, people fully understand he is a senile old man being puppeteered by an invisible hand. he's a blank slate that has a full theater of people clapping and cheering no matter what he does or how badly he does it, and it has plenty of open seats. His existence is a picture perfect representation of the life that retired baby boomers strive for, and that's tabula rasa.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

So where does that put the "Trump will regain the White House in a matter of days!" people?

the whole q thing got way more press than anything trump himself ever said and it was basically just a projection of everything people hated about trump supporters onto a group of people dumb enough to use their hero worship to obsess about something that trump himself never validated. the absolute bottom of the barrel that runs with the first explanation that makes sense to them without having to learn anything new - they're the exact same thing as the people who think the war in ukraine is about fighting russia's bigotry.

those people are like a tiny fraction of the population but they're convenient for the narrative so its now "qanon cultists vs antifascist brownshirts" instead of some actual tangible policy or ideological dispute because that's how you keep people at each other's throats

 

[RainwaterDrop]

I'm having a hard time reconciling the attacks on Biden's clear lack of mental competence with the fact that many of these same people want Trump to run in 2024 at age 78. Like, seriously...he wasn't that good the first time.

Trump did good things and bad things, he had some great ideas and fucking awful ones. He crossed the line over refusing to concede and moving on to claiming election fraud back over in 2021. After that, he moved on to pandering to QTards, to the point he's got an account reserved for Q in Truth Social and is actively censoring any mention to the hearings over there. I'm not an U.S. Citizen so I won't be voting, but on my perspective at least, the problems currently plaguing the U.S. and the World won't be solved by Populism from neither side, the next President of the United States should be a competent, moderate leader with the capacity to get both parties working together. With potential conflicts being a possibility in the next few years, the stronger the U.S. Government remains, the better!

i can see trump running again but with joe brandon having the lowest approval rating of any president in history, i can't really see him running in 2024.

Trump had similar ratings by the end of his term, he was a mere 1% above Biden's current rating. Biden will be a single term President, and both sides will predictably fuck up, I can see the Democrats going further on performative politics by putting Kamala or someone like her on the Ballot, while either Trump or DeSantis will be running for the Republicans. There will be performative rhetoric about Identity Politics on one side and the predicable counter rhetoric on the other, while the Elephant in the Room, the rampant Inflation, will be approached as a weapon by both sides. Trump is fucked on this one as the World is just now feeling the effects of the mass printing of U.S. Dollars back on his term, while he will blame Biden for it despite the fact that the decision came during his own term. Things are fucked!

 

[Wormy]

the whole q thing got way more press than anything trump himself ever said

Yeaaaa, no, dont' buy that when the man himself claimed to be the world's greatest technician, theologian, and an action hero who would have gone John McClane on a school shooting.

 

[Netizennameless]

So where does that put the "Trump will regain the White House in a matter of days!" people?

In the same delusional headspace as troons. This isn't even the first stolen election in this country, Bush did it to Gore in 2000 and Kennedy stole the 1960 election as well. Both parties do this.

Trump did good things and bad things, he had some great ideas and fucking awful ones. He crossed the line over refusing to concede and moving on to claiming election fraud back over in 2021.

This last sentence is nonsense. Hillary did the same thing in 2016, Gore did the same thing in 2000. Stacy Abrams did the same thing in her bid for governor. Trump is no different, it's all performance art anyway to keep donations going.

After that, he moved on to pandering to QTards, to the point he's got an account reserved for Q in Truth Social and is actively censoring any mention to the hearings over there.

Q tards vote too you know. They also probably donate a ton too.

I'm not an U.S. Citizen so I won't be voting, but on my perspective at least, the problems currently plaguing the U.S. and the World won't be solved by Populism from neither side, the next President of the United States should be a competent, moderate leader with the capacity to get both parties working together. With potential conflicts being a possibility in the next few years, the stronger the U.S. Government remains, the better!

The US needs a much smaller government, with a much narrower mandate. The Supreme Court ruling on the EPA (and by extension all alphabet agencies) will do a lot to help. The US does well when the federal government leaves people and businesses alone.

Trump had similar ratings by the end of his term, he was a mere 1% above Biden's current rating. Biden will be a single term President,

Polls are meant to shape opinion, not measure it. They are terribly inaccurate the last 10 years or so.

and both sides will predictably fuck up, I can see the Democrats going further on performative politics by putting Kamala or someone like her on the Ballot, while either Trump or DeSantis will be running for the Republicans. There will be performative rhetoric about Identity Politics on one side and the predicable counter rhetoric on the other, while the Elephant in the Room, the rampant Inflation, will be approached as a weapon by both sides. Trump is fucked on this one as the World is just now feeling the effects of the mass printing of U.S. Dollars back on his term, while he will blame Biden for it despite the fact that the decision came during his own term. Things are fucked!

Trump is not directly responsible for the economy, nor is Biden. Congress controls the purse strings, and people need to stop falling for the bait and switch. Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer are who are primarily responsible for this mess. The most successful investor in history by far, seems totally legit.

Yeaaaa, no, dont' buy that when the man himself claimed to be the world's greatest technician, theologian, and an action hero who would have gone John McClane on a school shooting.

The tough talk from Trump has always been hilariously cringe. He was born into wealth, it's not like he was street fighting during his younger years or anything.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Yeaaaa, no, dont' buy that when the man himself claimed to be the world's greatest technician, theologian, and an action hero who would have gone John McClane on a school shooting.

i'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post, you seemed to wander off into an indirect attack on trump. the problem with just trying to attack him like that is that it's literally his entire strategy and it was tantamount to his success. you can get mad at him for being a fat retard all you want but the vitriol powered his presidency

 

[Wormy]

i'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post, you seemed to wander off into an indirect attack on trump. the problem with just trying to attack him like that is that it's literally his entire strategy and it was tantamount to his success. you can get mad at him for being a fat retard all you want but the vitriol powered his presidency

What I'm saying is I don't buy the "He didn't intend to create these lunatics", horseshit. Having your own cult is an attention whore's wet dream.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

What I'm saying is I don't buy the "He didn't intend to create these lunatics", horseshit. Having your own cult is an attention whore's wet dream.

he has entire stadiums full of thousands of cheering fans with his name plastered all over the fucking thing, it doesn't really make sense to appeal to his narcissism when those people are ridiculously disadvantageous to his goal of drawing as much attention to himself as possible. it's honestly pretty disconnected from reality to say that he was such a narcissist he created q out of his own ego when the whole thing does not paint him in a good light. he's donald trump, not lex luthor

 

[Trombonista]

Can we please keep the political sperging to a minimum? This is not a debate or political discussion thread.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

 

[Random Internet Person]

The newest fight.

 

[Haint]

D.T. & C.W.C 2024. The Tard Train is rolling. Get on, faggots!

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Man he whines so damn much

Mike Pence told me, and everybody else, there was nothing he could do about the Electoral Vote Count—it was etched in stone. But if so, how come the Democrats and RINOs are working so hard to make sure there is nothing a VP can do. This was a major event, because everybody ganged up and said that Mike had no choice, he could not send the slates back to the States (which is all I suggested he do) for possible retabulation and correction based on largescale Voter Fraud and Irregularities. This may have proven to be an Election-changing event, so we would have no inflation, inexpensive gasoline, be energy dominant, have no war or largescale death with Russia and Ukraine (this conflict never would have happened), would have left Afghanistan on same timetable, but with dignity and strength, and would have kept Bagram Air Base, not had dead soldiers, taken out all American hostages, and would not have given the Taliban $85 billion worth of first-class military equipment. What a difference it would have made if the State Legislatures had another crack at looking at all of the Fraud, Abuse, and Irregularities that have been found. Our Country would have been a different place!

 

[SunburnNation]

Man he whines so damn much

He is absolutely slaughtering any chance he has of pulling a Grover Cleveland. None of the internal slapfights within the Republicans will matter when not one single person outside that party will vote for you and a sizeable minority within it won't. Donald Trump will ensure a 2024 Democratic victory, and he'll never even be lucid enough to understand why.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

trump uses a lot of fabian strategy and does so openly when it comes to how he does his politicking and it's very different from the way that most politicians have done it. a lot of stuff that he did was completely out of left field because people don't expect someone like the president to be openly feinting and drawing conflicts out unecessarily - and it worked REALLY WELL.

All this insanely idiotic behaviour did was causing unnecessary conflicts with his closest allies abroad and fanning the flames in the US. Signing a treaty and revoking it while flying back to the States made the US look like a nation that can't be trusted and caused significant frustration amongst the nations that are most important to the US. It was't a 4D chess move that made people wet with respect, it just told them "this clown is not trustworthy and he wastes our time."
All this did was allow single-digit IQ morons to seal-clap for their Tard in Command and howl "he showed them", blissfully unaware that this was weakening the US position in the world.

the problem is that the majority of voters don't really care about what he actually accomplished and they really only care about there being a man in a suit to look up to, and trump's whole schtick is that he isn't someone to look up to but he gets the job done.

That is a complete fabrication.

What has Trump accomplished aside from alienating his closest allies? Peace between North and South Korea? Nah. Keeping China in check? Nah. Making America #1? Nah. Wasn't he the one that started the whole Money-printer-goes-BRRRRRR nonsense, too?

Also, Trump not trying to be a person to look up to? Are you kidding me, his entire existence boils down to attention whoring. He never shuts the fuck up about how he's the smartest, most handsome, keenest, most savvy expert on everything ever. And of course he's a self-made billionaire (only a small loan!) and all that shit.

Trump didn't get anything done. All Trump did was behaving like a petulant child when dealing with other nations, causing disruption and completely avoidable uncertainties, that left the US in a weaker position, cause during his entire presidency, no nation truly felt like it could rely on the US to honor its treaties at all. He questioned sending troops to NATO nations if Russia attacked them for fuck's sake.

And lest we forget, Trump decided that he needs to stand up to China, so he started a trade war with China... and Europe. Cause that's a fucking great idea, when you want to curbstomp China, you also start shit with your economically and strategically most important partners against China. Just as a cherry on top, he also backed out of the TPP. I nearly lost my shit when I saw news that the remaining TPP nations were musing about replacing the US with China (something, btw, that's not yet off the table, China has asked to join just last year).

If his voters actually cared about what Trump accomplished, and not just OWNING THEM LIBS, his approval rate would fucking crater.

Man he whines so damn much

This is such childish behaviour, it's unfathomable to me how anyone can look up to this tard at this point.
"Things would be totally different if I was in charge here!"
Only way I see that with current events is him throwing Ukraine to the wolves... which is rather likely given his statements mentioned above about not honoring his NATO obligations if Russia attacked Europe. If he's willing to question the foundation of NATO, why should he care if tens of thousands of Ukrainians are murdered and the nation be subjected to (at least cultural) genocide. Or, you know, that Russia is putting pressure on his closest allies, which in turn diminishes his nation's influence on said nations and might allow Russia to become a political opponent, not by merit of being economically strong, but rather by being a nuclear-armed bully.