UN Trudeau pushes ahead on fertilizer reduction as provinces and farmers cry foul - Provincial agriculture ministers are expressing frustration with the Trudeau government over plans to effectively reduce fertilizer use by Canada’s farmers in the name of fighting climate change.

Marie-Claude Bibeau, Minister of Agriculture and Agri-food, speaks during a press conference announcing announcing $16 million in funding for Living Laboratories in Alberta during an Alberta Beef Producer?s summit at the Hyatt Regency in Calgary on Thursday, July 14, 2022.

Provincial agriculture ministers are expressing frustration with the Trudeau government over plans to effectively reduce fertilizer use by Canada’s farmers in the name of fighting climate change.

A meeting of federal and provincial ministers wrapped up in Saskatoon on Friday with several provinces saying they are disappointed.

The federal government is looking to impose a requirement to reduce nitrous oxide emissions from fertilizers saying it is a greenhouse gas contributing to climate change. While the Trudeau government says they want a 30% reduction in emissions, not fertilizer, farm producer groups say that at this point, reducing nitrous oxide emissions can’t be done without reducing fertilizer use.

“Provinces were disappointed by the lack of flexibility and consultation regarding the federal target,” Ontario’s Lisa Thompson said after the meeting.

Several provincial governments, and organizations representing farmers have asked for emissions reductions from fertilizer to be measured via intensity – how much food is produced compared to the amount of fertilizer used. The Trudeau government is demanding an absolute reduction in emissions, which farmers say will result in less food being produced at a time when the world can ill afford it.

“The world is looking for Canada to increase production and be a solution to global food shortages. The Federal government needs to display that they understand this,” Alberta minister Nate Horner said

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[CorteXY]

Good... good... once the crops begin to yield less and less fruit the food shortages will begin. Then the Canadians won't have the strength to resist an invasion no matter how much of a joke our military is becoming.

Did they ever?

 

[Vlinny-kun]

Rate me all you want but I don't think believing the "you are fucked and there is nothing you can do" meme is going to get anyone on the 'filthy plebian' side of things very far past soviet-style damnation. By making pessimistic predictions based on (specially tailored) odds and deciding not to bother at all from said odds for the sake of comfort is playing straight into WEF's hands.

A strong will allows people to do crazy shit, and nothing fosters will into people quite like their natural instinct to stay alive. Expect some crazy shit to come out of these "fertilizer reduction deals" in the coming future.

 

[BaronVonTroll]

Rate me all you want but I don't think believing the "you are fucked and there is nothing you can do" meme is going to get anyone on the 'filthy plebian' side of things very far past soviet-style damnation. By making pessimistic predictions based on (specially tailored) odds and deciding not to bother at all from said odds for the sake of comfort is playing straight into WEF's hands.

A strong will allows people to do crazy shit, and nothing fosters will into people quite like their natural instinct to stay alive. Expect some crazy shit to come out of these "fertilizer reduction deals" in the coming future.

People are too conditioned with Cries of Antisemitism and Intolerance to just deal with Degeneracy, Niggers and Jews, Yeah i gonna rate you optimistic.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Has anyone here considered the idea that the Canadian Gov isn't actually imposing an artificial limit on the amount of fertilizers farmers are allowed to use because of climate change?

The moves to cut nitrogen predate the Russia thing by about 10 years, which is when the first major studies were started on nitrogen fertiliser and N2O reduction, supposedly to stop climate change.

Random examples:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167880911003495

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-015-1426-y

https://news.berkeley.edu/2012/04/02/fertilizer-use-responsible-for-increase-in-nitrous-oxide-in-atmosphere/

 

[Sugriva]

I thank God every day that I wake up and I'm not Canadian.

 

[Brahma]

Sri Lankans aren't placid fat westerners

Couple years of hunger will change that

 

[WULULULULU]

Rate me all you want but I don't think believing the "you are fucked and there is nothing you can do" meme is going to get anyone on the 'filthy plebian' side of things very far past soviet-style damnation. By making pessimistic predictions based on (specially tailored) odds and deciding not to bother at all from said odds for the sake of comfort is playing straight into WEF's hands.

A strong will allows people to do crazy shit, and nothing fosters will into people quite like their natural instinct to stay alive. Expect some crazy shit to come out of these "fertilizer reduction deals" in the coming future.

Sorry I believe you are a retard for saying such nonsense.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

No, they'll be arrested on the spot. Chrystia "My granddaddy was a Nazi" Freeland will see to it, as well as ordering the banks to cut their funds and effectively financially ruin them. She did that with the trucker protests. It quieted things up real quick. Europeans have more experience with that shit and do not give a damn - remember, they easily tossed cops down stairs and beat them up when things got nasty. Canadians just sat back and did nothing.

Let's see what could happen if the Natives join the parade.

 

[stuffandthings]

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You're chicken littleing about Climate Change, but decide to go after the most crucial industry known to man. Even if climate change is a huge threat, fucking with food production should be last, after fucking with everything else.

Nitrogen fertilizer is something you've got to use RIGHT. Because using it wrong can not only mess up the watershed of the area like mentioned above, but using too much of it without balancing it with other fertilizers like urea will wreck your soil in the long term. You'll get higher yields for a couple years, but you're doing that by burning through all the organic matter in the soil that is supposed to decay over a much longer period. You'll also kill the microbes in the soil that are necessary. Soil isn't sterile, you've got to manage the teeny tiny ecosystem of fungi, bacteria, microscopic insects, ect, if you really want soil that is going to feed people for centuries.

Best Korea has permanently fucked their soil by using too much nitrogen. Farmers desperate to reach unreachable quotas, and with no ownership of the land itself, frying their fields.

But, you know, maybe you leave the farming shit to the actual farmers and agricultural scientists who understand all this you blackface wearing cracker jack.

 

[frozenrunner]

Canadians will re-elect Trudeau. Their cuckoldry knows no limits.

 

[iHuman]

I guess they learned nothing from what happened in Sri Lanka.

It is interesting to notice that these decision seem to follow a trend: Sri Lanka, The Netherlands, Canada...who is next?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I guess they learned nothing from what happened in Sri Lanka.

It is interesting to notice that these decision seem to follow a trend: Sri Lanka, The Netherlands, Canada...who is next?

We got lots of choices with the United States, Australia, Chile, New Zealand, etc....

 

[Brahma]

I guess they learned nothing from what happened in Sri Lanka.

It is interesting to notice that these decision seem to follow a trend: Sri Lanka, The Netherlands, Canada...who is next?

Possibly Ireland. They're doing a basic divide and conquer at the moment with a bunch of stories pushed about families needing to give up their second car and excessive driving at weekends etc if farmers "refuse" a minimum 22% reduction in emissions by 2030.

They also want a 55% reduction in transport emissions over the same year so I assume there'll be a bait and switch

"Yes we know you helped our objective by ostracizing and browbeating the people who produce your food but guess what you need to give up your car anyway!"

 

[WULULULULU]

I guess they learned nothing from what happened in Sri Lanka.

It is interesting to notice that these decision seem to follow a trend: Sri Lanka, The Netherlands, Canada...who is next?

The Philippines might be next, if rumors that the land has been bought out by private companies and governors like Cynthia Villar. Wait till SONA happens tomorrow.

 

[Pop pop fizz fizz]

I don't understand this push against nitrogen fertilizers.
Nitrogen is 78% of the planets atmosphere and is mostly inert and last I checked the North American continents corn and wheat crop being so productive thanks to nitrogen fertilizer puts out more Oxygen than the entire South American rain forest.
So I'd think that being anti-nitrogen fertilizer is in a roundabout way of thinking being PRO-global warming.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

I don't understand this push against nitrogen fertilizers.
Nitrogen is 78% of the planets atmosphere and is mostly inert and last I checked the North American continents corn and wheat crop being so productive thanks to nitrogen fertilizer puts out more Oxygen than the entire South American rain forest.
So I'd think that being anti-nitrogen fertilizer is in a roundabout way of thinking being PRO-global warming.

Ignore the climate and global warming rhetoric. They want to choke the food supply and starve people into submission.

 

[DamnWolves!]

So what are the odds that this situation escalates into a Sri Lanka 2.0?

The problem is that cops in third world countries like Sri Lanka or even Mexico, for that matter, see themselves as employed by some nebulous government entity, but they don't feel any particular loyalty to it. After all, these cops probably have a third grade education and have never even left their hometown; they identify with a very small geographical area and their ethno-religious group (of which 98% of the locals share). They probably have no idea who signs their pay cheques.

First world cops, not so much. They see themselves as the actual agents of the State and anything that threatens the institutions that keep them fat and in overtime pay, they'll fight. We saw that with the RCMP WhatsApp leaks during the trucker convoy; they literally see the average person as cattle to be corralled and they spent the whole time talking about what they were going to buy with the overtime pay they were making. They're not even like American cops who make $35k/yr and can at least empathize with the plight of the everyman; Canadian cops are all firmly upper-middle class with solid gold pensions and $110k+ per year salaries.

Keep in mind, Canadian cops aren't even part of the electoral system here. There are no sheriffs to vote for, and the mayor has little influence on the police chiefs. From the ground up, it's all the same globohomo apparatus.

Hard to convince cops to stand down from defending a system that so clearly benefits them...

 

[mold]

I'm ready to play Hungry Hungry Canadians!

 

[Meriasek]

So when will Canada go full Sri Lanka?

First they'll go full Netherlands, who went full Canadian Truckers just now over, well, farmers being hit by nitrogen restrictions.

 

[TowinKarz]

But, you know, maybe you leave the farming shit to the actual farmers and agricultural scientists who understand all this you blackface wearing cracker jack.

Modern Progressivism says that "X is too important to be left to mere Xers, use our EXPERTS instead!" without a hint of irony...

Raising kids is too big an issue to be left to mere parents

Farming is too big an issue to be left to the mere farmers.

Economies are too fragile to be left to mere businessmen

AUTONOMY IS TOO ABUSABLE TO BE LEFT TO MERE PEOPLE!