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The trouble with doing that is that it's the kids that suffer most and then society picks up the tab later in terms of adding battalions of deprived kids to the criminal underclass. To some extent the UK already tried to start down this route by limiting benefits to 2 children only: The idea was that by capping benefits to 2 children only. it would stop people from endlessly popping out more kids for the gibs - only it didn't & hasn't. These people keep on having the extra kids regardless of the fact that it spreads their capped resources thinner & all it's really meant is more kids living in deeper poverty rather than less kids.

Turns out that people don't have loads of kids for the Gov't handouts but presumably do so because it fills some psychological hole
put the kids in orphanages, doesn't cost any more money than shelling out benefits to their single mothers.
the goal isn't to stop people from having kids, the goal is to stop them from being lowlife antisocial parasites, and that can be accomplished only by stopping the state from actively enabling parasitism as a lifestyle.
 
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put the kids in orphanages, doesn't cost any more money than shelling out benefits to their single mothers.
the goal isn't to stop people from having kids, the goal is to stop them from being lowlife antisocial parasites, and that can be accomplished only by stopping the state from actively enabling parasitism as a lifestyle.
Oh boy wait till you hear what happens to care leavers after they age out of the system.
 
This whole thing with him breathing is because she's heard about the Baby A case, isn't it? One of the nurses noticed the baby started breathing after being declared brain dead so the doctors removed the brain death determination.

There was some discussion on Facebook that I couldn't quite make sense of that seemed to be saying Hollie claimed to have met baby As parents in a lift, even though they're not in the same hospital. He's probably been overbreathing on and off the whole time given how unstable the whole setup is.
 
She is now trying to say that Archie is just disabled:
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Removal of treatment is not euthanasia.
Even if he magically started breathing on his own, he is still reliant on medications to help him stay alive. Even if those magically were no longer required, I would still argue it is in his best interests to have the focus of his care be on his comfort and dignity.
There is a case where it's been decided that there is no need to go to court where doctors and family agree on withdrawing life-sustaining treatment in such a case. Obviously the problem here would be that the family don't agree with the doctors, and if the NHS Trust continues with trust proceedings, it would then probably cause a massive public debate because Hollie has been so public with everything

I assume this hasn't really happened before, or it has in very different circumstances to Baby A/what Hollie is suggesting and I'm just too lazy to go searching, because in the Baby A case the judge refused to allow a DNAR to be put in place and has asked for expert evidence to review the DNAR decision made for the moment

Depending on how that goes we might see the public debate play out with Baby A, obviously assuming some 'perfect' conditions for public interest are met and the child isn't just going to deteriorate in health, but it would probably require for the parents to go public and start their own media campaign
 
This whole thing with him breathing is because she's heard about the Baby A case, isn't it? One of the nurses noticed the baby started breathing after being declared brain dead so the doctors removed the brain death determination.
I also think she may have read about lewis roberts too, especially as she mentions an “orange line”. His case has been mentioned on the tard baby thread, and DFA and the army page.

Sorry for the mail link, it’s the only one I could find with the video. If you watch there’s an “orange line” when they ask him to breathe.

 
put the kids in orphanages, doesn't cost any more money than shelling out benefits to their single mothers.
the goal isn't to stop people from having kids, the goal is to stop them from being lowlife antisocial parasites, and that can be accomplished only by stopping the state from actively enabling parasitism as a lifestyle.
Ban abortions and bring back the magdalene laundries, that worked out great in the past eh
 
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Let's go back to the beginning,

Around mid April I was sent a link to a group "spreadthepurplewave" at 1st I thought this was some music thing if I'm honest, but no it wasn't it was about this boy on life support a local boy, I read the posts and felt sorry for this young child and his family, I wanted to help,

Fundraising,

Bootsales, raffles, football matches, charity boxes in various places, why they sat by archies bedside, they literally had to do nothing, and they was happy about that,

Hours days spent, collecting donations, sending emails to businesses, collecting prizes, it was literally hours upon hours of my time (I've now contacted go fund me regarding this),

I stayed natural all the way through, I was watching every interview, the court transcripts I read the hearings I watched again hours upon hours of research,

The interviews were not adding up to the court transcripts of what was been Said by the medical and legal teams the army page was getting more and more unbelievable as time passed.

I was watching the lot, I was also receiving information from a friend of theirs (this name will never be given) A friend that had alot to say on this family, (again not why I've come here),

I supported Archie I still do support him just in a different way now,

So what happened for me to change my mind,

The video I found nothing but a set up, the time the close up of the clock the wearing interview clothes at midnight the show being LIVE, but it wasn't LIVE, she had told everyone the apply was won, but not 4hrs later on LIVE TV we hear differently, what a head mess for everyone, that was it I knew there and then it was lies, Archies appeal hadn't been won, it still hasn't aren't we back on Monday,

So I pulled them up on this video I asked about various things that didn't add up, within secs a family member is in my inbox, telling me I'm negative and going on about pointless stuff, I removed myself of the army page wasn't giving them the satisfaction,

E (lla)

Well yesterday morning I woke to abuse and accusations of thief, I was questioned over and over about MONEY infact it's all E was bothered by, I went and answered everyone and told her time and time again

Bootsale money Lauren collected in cash

Small raffles the members paid for there tickets via go fund me. The big raffle was paid in by another lady organising it. It went on and on even asked her to speak to hollie regarding the bank transaction over some raffle a bike I believe it was, I'd given a signed euro shirt to another organiser £500 raised on that shirt alone, tottenham donated a signed shirt aswell that sold for around £250 again money sent to go fund me via the organiser of that event,

It become apparent that all E was bothered by was money, archies name she barely mentioned, I got bored of saying the same thing over and over so I've ignored her since,

Then yesterday early eve my phone goes of a number I don't know they left a voicemail, a army member they had given my private number too, and basically lied too saying I'd called him a druggie etc, again I hadn't more lies, I have his delightful voicemail, I even found out who had said this and proof was given, still not good enough still he blamed me, it was logged with the police in the end as I was sick of being accused by them, for something I clearly had prove off,

The gossip

Well the stories I've been told, I've no idea whats true and what's not anymore, I know people that know this family that warned me from day one, I didn't listen I just see a grieving family a desperate mother, and poorly child, how stupid was I,

The vigil

I even organised a local vigil, as the London one was a flop, I arranged the vicar to say a prayer and the council to light southend seafront purple, I had put songs they used in videos of archie on USB form to play during the vigil, it was a success, yet even that was thrown in my face, E’s words "you got your 15mins fame" I found this rather disturbing, fame over a seriously poorly child, how awful can they get,

I've sent the screenshot to my convo with E to the admin of dignity and they are going to pass to Truth Seekers, so this can all be confirmed, I can provide any evidence to funding people want, just gutted I wasted my time, money and energy of such ungrateful undignified and untrustworthy people,

Anyone wants to discuss anything in detail my inbox is open thankyou for reading

Ps I was removed from dignity for all 2/3 weeks ago regarding a post and a comment I made in that post if that lady can read this I apologise for any upset caused that day, I was only unblock on here when removed from army page, although again according to E this is lies I've been here all the time,

Mental health or just plain ignorance

I strongly believe help and invention needs to be in place for this family especially archies mum, E, tho her ignorance shines, playing on her phone in a court of law says it all I think, shes not interested in archie she barely knows him, but the money side oh the family need to watch as it's all about money to her, and the house and holiday are both lies to try to get a reaction how sick can she get, let's hope she never breeds or T sees sense his ex was stunning he definitely lowered his standards there.
 
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