Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

[SixPennyWalnut]

It’s not OnA’s style to swat anyone. Even the Cumia’s never had that happen at the height of the Reddit sub.

Nobody there would do it. It’s known it’s a stupid dicey game to play just like people here know that.

The fake Pat/Torque Wheeler accounts pissed off a LOT of people with his real information. Could be someone from that fall out? One guy did DM the torque account explicitly threatening to swat him.

Assuming it’s an organic random event is pretty retarded.

There’s always a fine line to balance between bullying retards like Pat online and doing something stupid like swatting. There’s a lot of retards out there, a lot of edgelords.

I think it’s wise to distance from any swatting even if it does produce hilarious outbursts like this.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Yes triangulation is part of it. Shotspotter is a system of networked acoustic sensors, with roughly two dozen per square mile. the sensors can estimate the distance of gunshots and pin down a relatively specific location (at least in theory). Shotspotter cites papers (here's one) which claim the ability to place a gunshot within <15 meters. it is absolutely possible that Shotspotter gave the cops an exact address.

System is also shit. Chicago it was giving out nearly 90% false positives. It's also known to miss shots that were actually fire. The company is also known for getting litigious in order to hide the information that their tech is shit. The fact that his city still uses it despite it's numerous flaws is a joke.

 

[AnOminous]

The fact that his city still uses it despite it's numerous flaws is a joke.

And there's an argument for it actually being a swatting even though a competent police department does keep records of such things and tends to respond with less aggression the third or fourth time shit like this happens. So either MPD is run by idiots (and the shotspotter thing tends to confirm that since they might as well use water divining rods), or they had no reason to think they were responding to a swatting.

 

[RCR]

I don't think it's a Swatting. My reasoning:

- The call appears to have originated from Shotspotter, an automated system.
- It's not either OnA or KF's style and there wouldn't really be any other suspects.
- Swatting results in Cops breaking down the door with guns drawn, in the audio Pat says they were knocking on his door.
- The Cops seem to have gone to the address Pat was renting out not his actual address. Why would Swatters send the Cops there rather than Pat's house?
- Pat would be raging about it on Twitter for sympathy points.

Reasons I don't think Pat would call the Cops on himself in the middle of the night and lose his shit at them when they arrive:

- That's fucking retarded.

My best guess is that something tripped Shotspotter, and the Cops were going door to door to see if anyone heard or saw anything. They knock on the other side of the duplex, which is not rented out right now so Pat answers the door. The Cops get as far as "we received a report of gunfire" and Pat jumps to the conclusion he's been Swatted and flips out so badly they cuff him. The Cops eventually explain the source of the report so Pat realises that he flipped out without real cause and doesn't talk about it on Twitter because he knows he looks stupid, or worse he said or did something to the attending officer that got him in a spot of bother and he's been untangling the mess he made all day, hence him going quiet on Twitter.

That's my feeling based on what we know, but Swatting is not ruled out 100% so if Null wants to err on the side of caution I get that.

To add to this, Patrick has claimed to be Swatted before for what just turned out to be a normal police interaction where they came to his house. He knows what swatting is. He knows he can gain sympathy points from twitter when he claims to be swatted. If he hasn't claimed to be swatted, then he hasn't been swatted.

That being said, it's Null's site. He can do with it what he wants. Its not like Patrick being featured is going to enhance the thread anyway.

 

[Firstname Lastname]

Swat or not Pat is still hilariously unhinged and very fat

 

[Spunt]

Its not like Patrick being featured is going to enhance the thread anyway.

Yeah, it's great when a thread is assailed by people saying "I can't be bothered to read the thread, someone please tell me what's been happening the last 1000 pages" or "I don't know who this Patrick Tomlinson guy is, but I do know about THE JEWS, allow me to elaborate..."

 

[Null]

But a crime committed by someone in a community of attention whores who routinely take credit for all kinds of things that are insanely dumb to take credit for. It's like al-Qaeda not taking credit for a terrorist act.

yeah but they're not al-Queda they're a bunch of nerds who fuck with aged faded stars, meanwhile the U.S. Federal Government in this allegory is still the U.S. Federal Government.

To add to this, Patrick has claimed to be Swatted before for what just turned out to be a normal police interaction where they came to his house. He knows what swatting is. He knows he can gain sympathy points from twitter when he claims to be swatted. If he hasn't claimed to be swatted, then he hasn't been swatted.

There's no SWAT team so it's not a proper "SWAT'ing", but it's still clearly an incident where someone made an urgent, false report to the police for the intentions of fucking with someone.

Like I'm trying to make people understand why as opposed to "my will be done" and I really feel like nobody in this thread cares at all about the longevity of the site and they just expect me to deal with legal problems on their behalf because "haha silly man yelled again".

 

[Goofy Logic]

It’s not OnA’s style to swat anyone. Even the Cumia’s never had that happen at the height of the Reddit sub.

That may or may not be True, it does not matter. There are always outliers in a group that will prove a generalization wrong.

I'm not saying that anyone on the KF or OnA is guilty, I'm just saying that because it looks like a swatting, Null is right in that we should distance ourselves from it as much as possible.

 

[Caverlock]

Like many. I was operating on the belief that the MPD were door-knocking to investigate a gunshot in the general area after being alerted by Shotspotter, and that Rick freaked the fuck out for no reason--not at all a SWATing.

I fucking despise Patrick, especially after the cunt tried to dox me using numerous false charges to ruin my life just because I archived him being an asshole on social media.

Not that I have any special sway just because I started the thread years ago, but, if there is some chance that the lolmilk is tainted, then Null is obviously right to not promote it, at least until that is disproven.

 

[Mooner]

The one thing that gives me serious pause as to it not being a swatting is the fact that the call is registered at the neighboring address. There's some big retards around the Internet, but I doubt one is a big enough retard to get the wrong address.

e: And, again, the front page thing is gay and will honestly probably just make the thread worse.

 

[ellroy]

Let’s not overlook the fact that featured threads tend to get wrecked with people that can’t be bothered to read or lurk the thread prior to posting. Wrecks the vibe.

That used to happen too often with the Lowtax thread.

 

[Flávia’s Cleaning Service]

- Swatting results in Cops breaking down the door with guns drawn, in the audio Pat says they were knocking on his door.

“No Knock” raids were essentially banned in Milwaukee last year. You need an extreme cause and the burden of proof to obtain a warrant is very high. Last year they only issued 2 such warrants for the whole city.

 

[SixPennyWalnut]

That may or may not be True, it does not matter. There are always outliers in a group that will prove a generalization wrong.

I'm not saying that anyone on the KF or OnA is guilty, I'm just saying that because it looks like a swatting, Null is right in that we should distance ourselves from it as much as possible.

I agree with you. Although Pat is lucky his outburst didn’t get him jailed or worse doesn’t mean I don’t agree with the anger at the police showing up at your house at 130am.

Nobody can condone that at all, even if it’s funny. Why would they just show up if someone didn’t tell them to?

It’s good they were so reasonable about it but it shouldn’t happen full stop.

 

[get-tar manajerk]

What probably happened is the cops knocked on a couple of doors, responding to the shot spotter bullshit, and Patrick was belligerent, thinking it was some kind of aTalker attack against him.

What does it matter if this was a swatting or not? The result is the same. People now know how Fatrick responds to police visits. And it's hilarious. So there's a chance that some truly exceptional individual may try to replicate these lulz by sending the cops through swatting.

I dunno. Like multiple people have already mentioned, featuring the thread ends up with it being spammed by people who want to post but don't want to read the OP.


I hope he didn't get swatted. It's a lot funnier watching him just continue to dig himself deeper and deeper into failure.

 

[Spunt]

That may or may not be True, it does not matter. There are always outliers in a group that will prove a generalization wrong.

I'm not saying that anyone on the KF or OnA is guilty, I'm just saying that because it looks like a swatting, Null is right in that we should distance ourselves from it as much as possible.

Yeah the problem is that for every poster on either forum there are several lurkers and you don't know who they are or what their agenda is. Let's face it, there are likely a number of people with a grudge against Pat and they may lurk either thread to get information about him to use for their own purposes that may or may not be lawful. And let's face it, if one of those people were to Swat Pat (even though I think this is a coincidental Police visit of the kind you get a few times a year if you live in a shithole like Milwaukee), the finger of suspicion would fall on KF or OnA and they're unlikely to get caught.

 

[Fictional Character]

I know about THE JEWS and THE JEWS know that Pat's pepperoni is not kosher.

 

[Null]

What does it matter if this was a swatting or not? The result is the same.

If this is actually becoming the prevalent thought in this community, we are fucking doomed. God I wish you people were less fucking stupid.

 

[Fictional Character]

It's much, much funnier if this is a result of crappy technology being shit or of Pat assuming any cops he sees near him are sent there by the stalkers.

It's gay if it's a result of someone making a false report about shots being fired. (As opposed to completely accurate reports about a fence built backwards.)

 

[get-tar manajerk]

If this is actually becoming the prevalent thought in this community, we are fucking doomed. God I wish you people were less fucking stupid.

I mean in terms of featuring it. People will still realize that cops + Patrick = funny. And might actually try to swat him.

edit: all I was trying to say is I can see the reason for not featuring it regardless of whether this was a swat or not. It could be argued that it will still encourage people to try and get police involved with Pat in order to try and get some kind of funny response.

 

[RCR]

yeah but they're not al-Queda they're a bunch of nerds who fuck with aged faded stars, meanwhile the U.S. Federal Government in this allegory is still the U.S. Federal Government.


There's no SWAT team so it's not a proper "SWAT'ing", but it's still clearly an incident where someone made an urgent, false report to the police for the intentions of fucking with someone.

Like I'm trying to make people understand why as opposed to "my will be done" and I really feel like nobody in this thread cares at all about the longevity of the site and they just expect me to deal with legal problems on their behalf because "haha silly man yelled again".

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Thats very reasonable and I appreciate you taking the effort to explain your thought process rather than just nuking whatever you dont like. I thought your problem was specifically with swatting.

I still dont think it's been established that one of the OnA people called in a fake report. Patrick does have guns in his house, there could have been an accidental discharge. ShotSpotter is notoriously inaccurate.

https://news.wttw.com/2022/07/21/lawsuit-alleges-chicago-police-made-false-arrests-based-faulty-shotspotter-alerts

Patrick was a retard long before the OnA people found him. He lives in a bad part of town. In my view, there's still a very high probability that this was organic and not part of a plot by the rascals