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I forgot to mention about the recent Nijisanji debuts, one annoyance I had was the lack of stream redirects going on, so people had to jump to the next stream themselves.

PhaseConnect managed them fine for Gen 2, as did Holostars EN. I know it's a new feature but don't they just need to follow each other to be to able to redirect?
I always make a playlist of debuts and relays when i watch just in case when all the waiting rooms drop

Breaking news at 12:54 Vei and Shylily DON'T hate eachother apparently
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I don't disagree with anything you're saying necessarily, but I'm curious what your take is on her alt account then? If this was done completely openly and publicly, with "fans" and not a specific clique of people, and her manager knew about all of it and presumably OK'd it (except for the talking part?) - then why did she feel the need to use an alternative Discord account with zero indication of it belonging to her?
I don't know. I'm not a member, I'm not part of her Discords, and I don't know the people involved.

Explanations could stem from knowing these people in her PL and therefore not bothering to keep up appearances, to a precautionary thing in case her account was breached and that bad actor would have access to the servers Finana was a part of (NijiEN, NijiWORLD, NijiJP, staff comms, private comms, unannounced projects etc). I couldn't tell you, and I'm not saying there is definitely not more to this, either, I'm just trying to keep everyone on the same page as to what we actually know and what is just a possibility. I'm also not trying to split hairs between 'fans' and 'clique', just that it's entirely possible that they made the Finana servers in advance because they're friends and that's why there is overlap between PL and current moderation.

I only have the same info as everybody else.
 
Also the dude immediately tardwrangle the chat when he mentioned his sister, saying "please show some respect and don't ask questions about families or siblings", so he most likely won't pander too much to his chat like your typical fujobait streamers
This is basic shit that like every vtuber who mentions siblings/friends/roommates says. Not sure why you think fujobait streamers would encourage shipping... the guy's sister?
 
Oh fuck, Vesper is into 40k. He just talked about orkz
It's just a matter of time before if someone SuperChats him in Ork speak "Oi, humies gitz gonna get a proppa krumpin'!"
Highlight reel of the viral trend that seemingly happens every two months, "Vtuber vs IRL." Because it's been far too long since I've poked the EN indie scene with a stick to see what falls out.

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Please back away from the camera! Unique design though I must admit, what's his content like then?
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"She/Her VTuber." He sounds exactly like you're imagining. You know, we had a discussion about Lilyhops a while back, but I forgot to at least give him credit for managing to not do the tranny voice. You know the one.

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Not sure it really counts as "IRL" if you're using more beauty apps than Keekihime. Not that it matters, since you aren't a VTuber since you don't have a model. Having a PNG on screen doesn't count.

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Jesus Christ. Well uhhh, the model has a unique art style I suppose. You know, one of the advantages of VTubing is you don't have to show your face. Just saying. For no particular reason.

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"They/She" and "Unhinged" in the bio, you can save some space there as those are redundant. Standard issue transbian. Talks on stream as if he's chronically embarrassed. I would be too.

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Oh. I guess when coming across this post, I'm supposed to feel a twinge of guilt about "trolling," which is what they call "archiving shit people post by themselves online" now. I guess I should delete all this and go reconsider my life choices. On the other hand, there's this "Post Reply" button right here...
OH, FOR ALL THAT IS THAT IS DECENT, MAKE IT STOP!
Pippa was right during the stream with Nyaru: No one wants to see your IRL face!
 
I forgot to mention about the recent Nijisanji debuts, one annoyance I had was the lack of stream redirects going on, so people had to jump to the next stream themselves.

PhaseConnect managed them fine for Gen 2, as did Holostars EN. I know it's a new feature but don't they just need to follow each other to be able to redirect?
It's very, very selective, just like gifting is still being selective on who can access the feature.
Breaking news at 12:54 Vei and Shylily DON'T hate eachother apparently
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Since veibae is recovering the followers she lost to shylily no reason to hate each other lol.
 
Edit:This just in Mizugake watches the Orcat Veibae seething
Kson was collabing Orcabae earlier.

Vox would never work in holo tbh, i think the only way vox works the way he plays the character rn is by being in niji or indie.

Keeping streams to an hour also helps retain the normies who wouldn't watch 3 hours of a new talent they don't really know.
They said something about burnout but im gonna call bullshit on it. I think some of them have day jobs and they dont want one of them to just pull 8 hour streams right after debut. They want to give them all a pre-determined 1 hour stream time so they grow at the same pace atleast for a few months until they get rid of the collab and time restrictions and let them do whatever the fuck they want.

I always make a playlist of debuts and relays when i watch just in case when all the waiting rooms drop

Breaking news at 12:54 Vei and Shylily DON'T hate eachother apparently
Guessing they Vei realized that her being a spiteful bitch only hurt her and made Shy way more popular than her. No use hating her





Rabbit clip tax

Also hop the fuck on. Lumi is playing Xcom again.
 
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Stars was always about guys being bros. Outside like 2 Shien ASMR's and maybe 1 from Astel they don't specifically pander or gay bait to anyone. To give an idea on Stars Aruran did a gun cleaning ASMR where he cleaned his Airsoft Guns, Kaoru did a Beyblade ASMR, one Holostar is a Minecraft build autist who made World Monuments like the Taj Mahal and Eiffel Tower, Roberu is basically living out a harem plot, Oga is a big bro towards everyone and wept for the ID girls performance during HoloFes, Astel is goofy as hell, etc.
While that is correct, Oga has revealed that he has a 50-50 man to woman ratio in subscribers and that he wants to do stuff for both demographics. And, there are some Oga and Shien moments that are eyebrow raising. Also, I am not entirely aware of what the HoloStars voice lines for White Day entails. I am not saying they aren't bros, but there has been some more pandering than the ASMRs that you mentioned. Nothing alarming, or unavoidable may I add. Hell, some times they even trick chat, like that time Oga turned everyone into an RC-car.
 
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While that is correct, Oga has revealed that he has a 50-50 man to woman ratio in subscribers and that he wants to do stuff for both demographics. And, there are some Oga and Shien moments that are eyebrow raising. Also, I am not entirely aware of what the HoloStars voice lines for White Day entails. I am not saying they aren't bros, but there has been some more pandering than the ASMRs that you mentioned. Nothing alarming, or unavoidable may I add. Hell, some times they even trick chat, like that time Oga turned everyone into an RC-car.
I'm aware that Stars has a large female fanbase I saw someone basically have a full Aruran bedroom setup. My original point was more to the fact that Stars always had the Tempus setup where for the most part it's brotubing. They may have some audience fanservice moments but BFE certainly isn't the main focus for app of them (they certainly don't lean into it like how Rushia, Lamy, and Vox do).
 
While that is correct, Oga has revealed that he has a 50-50 man to woman ratio in subscribers and that he wants to do stuff for both demographics. And, there are some Oga and Shien moments that are eyebrow raising. Also, I am not entirely aware of what the HoloStars voice lines for White Day entails. I am not saying they aren't bros, but there has been some more pandering than the ASMRs that you mentioned. Nothing alarming, or unavoidable may I add. Hell, some times they even trick chat, like that time Oga turned everyone into an RC-car.
I wouldn't worry so much when it comes to Stars JP at least, they have teased once in a while but it always circles back to bros being bros. For the most part, I don't think the guys have a problem being in touch with their feminine side either i.e. Shien playing otome games and being a really good cook. It's leagues better than just having "I'm gay" as a personality trait.

On a random but somewhat related note, Shien has shown he can actually speak and read Korean to a certain degree so imagine if he ever decided to properly hone it.
 
Gezu Gezu, a Vtuber I have been following for a while is graduating next week.
Vtuber graduations arent anything new, but something she said during her announcement made me raise an eyebrow

From 08:56 to 09:10
"Anything that has my voice in it, even a twitter video or a clip, or any video on twitch will be deleted, it will be gone"

From 10:18 to 10:26
"As soon as I found out I got up and, I was just like 'ou just gotta do it, just start the stream and do it"

Someone asks 'Why do you want to or have to quit streaming at 10:42 to 11:25
"I dont think I can say anything I cant say too much, Just know, what I can say is that, its nothing bad, I'm healthy, everyone I know is healthy, everyone is well, nothing bad is happening, but I have to wipe every video that has my voice and that kind of stuff"


I just found weird she had to clarify that part, maybe I'm just overthinking it but I'd keep an eye on auditions from other companies going on.

Watch Niji Wave 7, Niji seems to ask a hiatus from other content.

Having tracked a lot of past life stuff, I kind of get sad when I realize how many speculated people didn't make it and just gave up.
Morino Pearin (Hana Flores). Seems to have given up on a content career beyond streams every 4 months or so despite being easily Holo quality.
Moon Jelly (Manaka Umio). Down to just a few streams a month. Seems to be more successful making commissioned music in the corpo sphere than as an indie. I loved her original.
Chimon. Oft-speculated for Niji or Stars but actually just disappeared.
Tsukine Lune. I haven't seen her resurface yet after her graduation (presumably a graduation exactly a year after starting was a contract thing?)
Harin. Graduated in May and no sign of her anywhere.
 
Watch Niji Wave 7, Niji seems to ask a hiatus from other content.

Having tracked a lot of past life stuff, I kind of get sad when I realize how many speculated people didn't make it and just gave up.
Morino Pearin (Hana Flores). Seems to have given up on a content career beyond streams every 4 months or so despite being easily Holo quality.
Moon Jelly (Manaka Umio). Down to just a few streams a month. Seems to be more successful making commissioned music in the corpo sphere than as an indie. I loved her original.
Chimon. Oft-speculated for Niji or Stars but actually just disappeared.
Tsukine Lune. I haven't seen her resurface yet after her graduation (presumably a graduation exactly a year after starting was a contract thing?)
Harin. Graduated in May and no sign of her anywhere.
I'm still hoping that Chimon is NijiEN wave 7 (or Stars EN gen 2 I guess), but it's definitely just copium by now lol. Most likely he just moved on to something else.

As for Gezu Gezu, shouldn't HoloEN gen 3 be soon? Granted Hololive seems less concerned with having their vtubers take hiatus or graduate from their PLs, but some still do (ex: the orc). Neither agency demands someone nuke all their content with their voice in it (Sonny has a ton of videos up on his PL channel), so maybe she took a job in a different industry and doesn't want her vtubing past to be linked to her.
 
I'm still hoping that Chimon is NijiEN wave 7 (or Stars EN gen 2 I guess), but it's definitely just copium by now lol. Most likely he just moved on to something else.

As for Gezu Gezu, shouldn't HoloEN gen 3 be soon? Granted Hololive seems less concerned with having their vtubers take hiatus or graduate from their PLs, but some still do (ex: the orc). Neither agency demands someone nuke all their content with their voice in it (Sonny has a ton of videos up on his PL channel), so maybe she took a job in a different industry and doesn't want her vtubing past to be linked to her.
Timing-wise, I feel like October would make the most sense for EN3. Stars just debuted, so now would obviously be way too soon. Council debuted late August, so by the time it felt like it had been long enough, it would be their anniversary. Then Myth's debut is mid-September. So the soonest I could see EN3, personally, is late September, early October.

Given the timing, it is totally possible that Gezu Gezu just heard she got accepted to EN3 or Tsunderia. Holo doesn't require people to wipe their old accounts, but that could just be a personal choice for her. I don't know how the timing would work for NijiEN 7, but 2-3 months seems like the lead-up time between acceptance and debut for Holo.
 
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This is basic shit that like every vtuber who mentions siblings/friends/roommates says. Not sure why you think fujobait streamers would encourage shipping... the guy's sister?
Noir: Have you played XCOM?
Regis: My uhhh... My sister's friend played it
*chat explodes with is your sister single jokes*
Then Regis tardwrangles chat about being respectful. It's basically just being impressed how the boys have so far been very proactive with tardwrangling their chat as soon as they become annoying.
 
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