Sam Hyde

>Give up 80% of your income from your successful clipping channel that uploads transformative works to Sam
>Payment is controlled by a middleaged man who lives off of daddy Hyde's dwindling teatmilk rations and is rumoured to fall flat on deals
>Possibly be doxed
>Your youtube channel taken over by Sam and will likely be banned for being affiliated with him.
>Job that you either add to resume and get automatically blacklisted from any major corp, or job that you can't present as work experience

TNP made the right choice. I look forward to seeing him battle Sam's attempts at false flagging, and the seethe that will follow.
You're wrong and you're only saying it was a good move because you don't like Sam. Every single video TNP made can be demonetized and deleted via copy strike. He would then loose 100% of his revenue. The disscusion would then be about whether it was "fair" for Sam to pull all the clips down, but nobody would be talking about some clippers revenue stream. That's why it would have been smart to take the deal. We're not talking about an elite athlete negotiating contracts with various teams, and we're not talking about someone fresh out of medical school deciding which hospital to work for. We're talking about a guy who edits Sam Hyde videos for YouTube. Why would he even need to put in on a "resume?" It's not going to lead him into a better opportunity - and that doesn't even support your point because he was already doing it anyway.
 
Not surprised at all Sam did this, I remember a while ago he was putting out Hydewars on YT for free and suddenly removed all the videos and infamously put them all behind a paywall. He released a video shitting on people who wanted to watch his stuff for free and encouraged everyone to become "pay pigs" (his actual words) he was demeaning to the audience in the video but I don't remember much and can't find the video anymore, he smoked a cigar and left half way through the video in which the camera was recording the ashes, he said "that's all you get for free" or something like that. Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure even back in the pre-adult swim days he was big on putting things behind a paywall (KSTV, MDE skits, etc.)

The Hydewars paywall was around the time everyone stopped watching his content because it no longer had any exposure and in general it fucking sucked, he no longer did any comedy only bad life advice rants no one gave a shit about.


I don't see how a reasonable person could look at sams life and consider him a failure. It's like calling axl rose a failure because he's not at the same level of success as he was in his earlier days. He's still a musician whose sold millions of records- you can't take that away just because circumstances change. Sam is a comedian who manages to support himself/others with his craft. He's someone who managed to get a TV show he created to air on network television (getting something as controversial as MDE to air on adult swim in the first place is an amazing achievement). He's also someone who hasn't sacrificed themselves by bending to societal norms.

A failure is someone who never persues what they're passionate about. A failure is someone who coasts through life quietly desperate & miserable, working a job they hate, putting on a face every day to make a living. Sam doesn't fit that category

I like lots of Sam's stuff but I would consider him at least somewhat of a failure for what happened with World Peace (possibly my favorite thing that aired on TV in the 2010s). He could have toned the political sperging down a little bit for season 1 and stayed in his corporate overlord's good graces long enough to secure season 2 (yes, I know they were approved for season 2 before he was blacklisted, but he could have avoided said cancellation easily). He also failed to maintain a good relationship with most of the best talent from the MDE days and failed to secure exposure on youtube or other free platforms because he had to go full jewmode. If it wasn't for Idubbbz's exposure Sam would be lucky to pull 20k views on his sparse low quality content he puts up for free.

Axyl Rose didn't chimp out after his first Successful album and get blacklisted then have a falling out with the rest of the band then spend the next few years uploading Life advice rants to a few paypigs behind a paywall, he went on to have a long and successful career working with his band.
 
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You're wrong and you're only saying it was a good move because you don't like Sam. Every single video TNP made can be demonetized and deleted via copy strike. He would then loose 100% of his revenue. The disscusion would then be about whether it was "fair" for Sam to pull all the clips down, but nobody would be talking about some clippers revenue stream. That's why it would have been smart to take the deal. We're not talking about an elite athlete negotiating contracts with various teams, and we're not talking about someone fresh out of medical school deciding which hospital to work for. We're talking about a guy who edits Sam Hyde videos for YouTube. Why would he even need to put in on a "resume?" It's not going to lead him into a better opportunity - and that doesn't even support your point because he was already doing it anyway.
I don't really get the Fair Use arguments. I'm no expert on Fair Use but my working understanding was that making money off the derivative work wasn't kosher and negated the fair use. Profit is a no-no when using other's work without their permission.

It's also never made sense to me how taking someone else's recording and rearranging the words was transfgormative in the sense intended in copyright law. Transformative surely means more than a simple re-edit right? I'm pretty sure courts have ruled against that every time its been tested. The religious group who tried to sell movies edited without curse words and nudity lost. Fan movie re-edits don't stay up long. The Star Wars Deconstructed guy has faced tons of legal threats and can't really sell or show that thing.
 
Reminder that Sam has two supposedly unmarried pregnant women living in rathole apartments he puts them up in and they know about each other but are too terrified of Sam to leave him.
Where did this info come from and is there proof?
Haven't heard anything about this until now and don't see any real info within the thread.

As things move forward we are going to see the e-celebs lose more and more money, collectively, as people spend more on household items (and gas).
We can only hope.


As much as I love rooting for Sam in the Candy Man VS Anisa/idubbbz aspect, I think this is a bad call on Sam's part. Unless his long game is to have every channel he copyright strikes try to make a documentary on him 7 years in the future so he can mess with them (like idubbbz) but that seems like a pretty far shot.
It really just seems like he's gonna kill the exposure he gained from the idubbbz videos. He got lucky idubbbz was incompetent in canceling him and also had a large reach.

Looks like the type of self sabotage that earns one a thread on the farms.
 
Where did this info come from and is there proof?
Haven't heard anything about this until now and don't see any real info within the thread.
https://sh1teamcancel.com/2021/10/31/1/
Also check other farm sites, this thread only as of this year turned on Sam and is still inundated with cum guzzling fanboys. /snow/ on Lolcow has 3 threads full of archived dirt on Sam, including pedophilia, homosexuality, diaper fetish/sex toys, blood play, & humiliation fetish evidence. Also evidence of him not paying his employees and him being a giant cunt to former friends.
 
You're wrong and you're only saying it was a good move because you don't like Sam.
I like Sam's content. I think he's funny, but if he does something stupid, I will also laugh at him.
Imagine whiteknighting this hard for an internet daddy anytime you see mild criticism of him. Go lube up and he may fuck you in the asshole like he did to Marky.
Every single video TNP made can be demonetized and deleted via copy strike. He would then loose 100% of his revenue.
People upload full episodes of Disney cartoons onto youtube and add a filter, there's also reaction channels that play full episodes of any show/movie and somehow stay afloat. Unedited episodes are uploaded by putting 1-2 minute clips in a playlist. If channels can do this with content policed by the strongest mediacorp legal teams, and run sitewide bots to autodelete any content of theirs, one guy won't be able to copystrike a clipping channel that uploads, edits, and splices together short clips. It's transformative and if Sam actually tries to fight it he would lose.
We're not talking about an elite athlete negotiating contracts with various teams, and we're not talking about someone fresh out of medical school deciding which hospital to work for. We're talking about a guy who edits Sam Hyde videos for YouTube. Why would he even need to put in on a "resume?"
Even scraping fries at McDonald's requires a resume. Why would you want to put time and effort into a job and not be able to show anything for it? If he wants anything to do with video editing/marketing, examples of work are required.
 
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https://sh1teamcancel.com/2021/10/31/1/
Also check other farm sites, this thread only as of this year turned on Sam and is still inundated with cum guzzling fanboys. /snow/ on Lolcow has 3 threads full of archived dirt on Sam, including pedophilia, homosexuality, diaper fetish/sex toys, blood play, & humiliation fetish evidence. Also evidence of him not paying his employees and him being a giant cunt to former friends.
The problem with all of that shit is that NONE of the Sam claims are verifiable. All the texts about him the names are blacked out, all of the claims on message boards and blogs are from anonymous posters, ect. Until one of these girls comes forward with their story on their public accounts or shows their faces on cam saying that shit happened then it's all just as likely the work of some schiz with a raging hate-on for Sam/MDE. Everyone who uses this site on the regular knows just how far some degen with a grudge can take shit. Some people will spend every waking second of their life trying to destroy someone if they have a problem with them. I'm not saying that any of these accusations are outside the realm of possibility, I could totally see Sam being a secret cuck degen, lots of comedians get exposed for being absolute fucking scum all the time, but as it is right now there is NO smoking gun, no ACTUAL PROOF when it comes to Sam. The best thing that exists is the pic of him with girl with a bloody nose, but we have no factual knowledge of the context, of when it was taken or of how old the girl was at the time.

With Twittard culture the way it is, if any of these girls wanted to step forward and say something about it they would absolutely get the benefit of the doubt and yet not a single one has? It's more than a little suspect.
 
2007 to 2014 Sam was genuinely funny although you could tell even back then he was a total piece of shit outside of his videos. Since 2015-16 about 80 percent of his content has been utter garbage and sadworld is 10x better.
It was Sam. If you do this and they catch on to your scheme, you're fucked. And probably serve time.
Lol, not like Sam would know. He's probably still used to having his Daddy Warbucks father bribe a judge or pull a "Don't you know who I am?" to bail him out.
 
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On the one hand, I understand wanting to get your moneys worth and protect your content, but that whole complex of clippers, by their own admission, did a better job of editing down their shit and making it more digestible for a broader audience. Without channels like the New Pill, Sam would not have reentered the public consciousness in the way that he has in the past year. This will definitely have a negative impact on his reach.
 
I would consider him at least somewhat of a failure for what happened with World Peace...He could have toned the political sperging down a little bit for season 1 and stayed in his corporate overlord's good graces long enough to secure season 2
You consider him somewhat of a failure for not bending to network executives?

Yea he could have. He could have watered down his show and made tim and eric awesome show great job II. But why would anyone want that
 
You consider him somewhat of a failure for not bending to network executives?

Yea he could have. He could have watered down his show and made tim and eric awesome show great job II. But why would anyone want that
All he had to do was scrap the Jews rock sketch and the show would've been fine. That was the only sketch that any bugman could easily identify as being "problematic", the rest of it is pretty esoteric/otherworldly.
 
All he had to do was scrap the Jews rock sketch and the show would've been fine. That was the only sketch that any bugman could easily identify as being "problematic", the rest of it is pretty esoteric/otherworldly.
The one pushing the boulder up the hill? That did get cut, never aired to my knowledge
 
All he had to do was scrap the Jews rock sketch and the show would've been fine. That was the only sketch that any bugman could easily identify as being "problematic", the rest of it is pretty esoteric/otherworldly.
That's not true. He had to edit a ton of stuff from the show. You can find the uncensored version and compare it. But even the uncensored version is still content that got approved from AS and just has a lot of text removed and things bleeped out.

The "Jews Rock" sketch was originally supposed to be Jews Rule but they had to change it.

There are a lot of cited reasons for WPs cancelation and all of them are complete BS. The show was ultimately canceled because of a backlash against Sam's political opinions and nothing whatsoever to do with the content of the actual show. For example, the Wall Street Journal posted an article about hidden swastikas in the show with absolutely no basis in reality and that was one of the reasons cited for getting the show canceled.
 
The problem with all of that shit is that NONE of the Sam claims are verifiable. All the texts about him the names are blacked out, all of the claims on message boards and blogs are from anonymous posters, ect. Until one of these girls comes forward with their story on their public accounts or shows their faces on cam saying that shit happened then it's all just as likely the work of some schiz with a raging hate-on for Sam/MDE.
Well they matched up his own selfies and his alleged dick pics and they had a few matches, same bathroom/floor tile from his Mom’s house, one of the posters had pictures of inside his childhood bedroom (creepy if not verifiable), the pattern of behavior with Markey/the other teenagers was very sus, it’s hard to imagine that it wasn’t him.
 
Many people have talked about how "free" everything can be, but I've yet to figure out how to make it happen. How can I get free gov benefits as a married white man with child.

This is a sincere question btw.



Single, white with no dependents is even worse. I don't even get tax credits and I'm at a high audit risk if I try pulling anything.
 
I have no idea what the fuck you kids on are these days but $54k per year is not "life changing money". It's slightly better than $25 per hour, but then Uncle Sam or The Queen or whoever else is gonna come along and take their pound of flesh knocking that down to probably $35k-$40k take-home at best. Then this nigga still has to pay for his own health insurance on top of it and with the rising cost of *literally everything* right now, $25/hr, while not being bad at all for a young guy, it's certainly not Easy-Street™.
Also glad some noted the taxes, and tax rate. That 56K is a lot less than it first appears when the federal, state, and local governments take there cut. Zoomers in this thread think employment is a boss giving you a chest of money all upfront (it isnt).
$54k is above average pay for a full-time job in a lot of places, although they are all outside of the cities. Many of these places also have better tax laws, so you don't lose as much as you would in one of the coastal states. It's also worth noting that $54k/year would be the worst case scenario. The deal was $4500/month or 20% of ad revenue, whichever is higher. So, he could potentially earn significantly more than that and it allows his pay to scale with performance. It's also possible that he would receive health insurance depending on the arrangement. It's possible that Sam has some kind of health insurance plan setup for his business.
Plus for anyone who has never done any audio-visual work in their life it might not seem like a lot of work, but The New Pill dude does more than just post clips, he makes little animations and spends a ton of time sourcing good clips and making his uploads have a particular flow to them that obviously takes some time to craft.
Oh no, he has to actually work hard for the money? 😢 How horrific. I'm sure Lil' Shitpost has many weary 72 hour weeks ahead grinding out each 10 minute video. On a more serious note, of course audio-visual work is not easy, but the relative value of labor for someone who does that kind of work is on the lower side. There are a lot of people out there now who know how to use After Effects, Blender, etc. and it's not realistic to expect massive wealth out of a video editing position unless you are either truly exceptionally good and/or your client is exceptionally rich.

We also have no idea what, if any, additional stipulations or quotas Sam may have had about the arrangement behind the scenes that could have made it just not worth it for The New Pill. Also how tf do any of us know what TNP does with the rest of their time? For all we know they could be a legitimate professional and only doing the TNP shit on the side as a passion project. Getting paid to do it runs up a whole other host of issues like having their private name publicly tied to Sam as an employee with plenty of tax records that could have a detrimental effect on their personal and professional life. Again, we don't know. All I DO know for sure, is that $54k isn't bad for a young guy or someone in a shit position on the verge of poverty, but it absolutely isn't "an offer that can't be refused".
That's true. Life phase is a very important factor. Based on the way TNP phrased his regretful sounding community post though, I'm guessing that he is a young guy who could have used the opportunity. If you are in the middle of your career and especially if you have dependents then this would obviously be a bad fit. If you're a guy in your early to mid 20's just starting out, as most of Sam's current fan base probably is, there won't be many opportunities out there that are better.

A 1099 job with no health insurance, PTO, 401k. worker's comp. It's only worth it if you gets 20 hour or less work weeks.
You're making a lot of assumptions there. Even if that is the nature of the job, it seems like work that could be done in addition to something that provides the missing benefits.

As some have mentioned health insurance and other benefits are important to note (401k, student loan debt programs, and etc). Would TNP have been full time, part time, or a freelancer? These all change the calculation. Would he have been payed by performance or was that 4,500 going to be standard.
The offer was $4500/month or 20% of ad revenue, so $4500 would be the bottom. Those are some very important questions to ask.

Working for internet celebrities is one of the most fickle careers out there, job security is important especially with this current economy. It would be unwise to put your livelyhood in the hands of an internet celebrity who has a multi million dollar trust fund to lean on. A business owner who sees himself more as an "artist" and can afford to fail is more prone to fail. Hyde's world doesnt end if everything goes under, for many other businesses owners this is not the case. If TNP becomes Hyde's wagie and Sam's internet career dies months later he is screwed. Now any business/career can go under quickly, but some things go first. E-celebs, celebs, restaurants, entertainment, and other unnecessary purchases are the first to be cut. As things move forward we are going to see the e-celebs lose more and more money, collectively, as people spend more on household items (and gas).
Great points. If I were in a situation like this, I would not plan on doing it for a long time, but it could be a good way to earn money for a year or so if you're stuck in a shitty job or unemployed anyway. An even better approach would be to invest some time in diversifying income sources to be more prepared for the inevitability of losing the gig one way or another. People really shouldn't assume any job will be around forever. I know people who had 20 year careers at one company only to be unceremoniously laid off at the first sign of trouble and then had to settle for something much less nice because they were older and have kids to take care of.
 
I have no idea what the fuck you kids on are these days but $54k per year is not "life changing money". It's slightly better than $25 per hour, but then Uncle Sam or The Queen or whoever else is gonna come along and take their pound of flesh knocking that down to probably $35k-$40k take-home at best. Then this nigga still has to pay for his own health insurance on top of it and with the rising cost of *literally everything* right now, $25/hr, while not being bad at all for a young guy, it's certainly not Easy-Street™. Plus for anyone who has never done any audio-visual work in their life it might not seem like a lot of work, but The New Pill dude does more than just post clips, he makes little animations and spends a ton of time sourcing good clips and making his uploads have a particular flow to them that obviously takes some time to craft. We also have no idea what, if any, additional stipulations or quotas Sam may have had about the arrangement behind the scenes that could have made it just not worth it for The New Pill. Also how tf do any of us know what TNP does with the rest of their time? For all we know they could be a legitimate professional and only doing the TNP shit on the side as a passion project. Getting paid to do it runs up a whole other host of issues like having their private name publicly tied to Sam as an employee with plenty of tax records that could have a detrimental effect on their personal and professional life. Again, we don't know. All I DO know for sure, is that $54k isn't bad for a young guy or someone in a shit position on the verge of poverty, but it absolutely isn't "an offer that can't be refused".
He lives with his mom bro....
 
I don't know why people are acting like 54k is insane. Yeah it can be a lot for some people but it's not super hard to earn above that if you had decent education opportunities (obviously not everyone does). Also Sam Hyde is rich as fuck I'm pretty sure because I was watching him on PKA or Destiny (can't remember which) and he said he earned 10k from a week of doing Cameo, then stopped because he wasn't in the mood to do it. The dude is better off just shilling his content through clips then dmcaing them, even if they earn some pennies off his riches.
The Cameo thing doesn't seem realistic. Maybe when he started doing it he was making quite a bit due to the novelty of it, but how many of his fans would keep on paying for Cameo vids? Seems like as valuable an income source as NFTs.

Sam's fans are a bit insane with how they worship the guy, so they're probably eager to throw money at the guy for whatever and it may not have caused any net increase in Sam's income to do extra work when these people would give him the money regardless. He's practically a cult figure to some of these people that want a father figure who really gets them.
 
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