Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[L50LasPak]

Why do people continue to post this completely wrong take? Do you really think Sundar Pichai would say this:

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if that were true? Those perks have nothing to do with making people work overtime, and Google has the opposite problem of treating their employees so well that they become ridiculously entitled and work way under 40 hours a week.

In that anime speed watcher video a few posts ago, the guy worked only a couple of hours total with the rest of the time consumed eating, commuting (during work hours), watching TV, and playing ping pong before leaving early.

The flat presumption is that Google (and many other tech companies cut from a similar cloth) uses those videos to entice new recruits, then pulls the rug out from under them and works them to death once they've actually signed on.

Its also presumed that the employees we do see slacking off for real, as recorded by other parties, are allowed to continue to exist at the company to perpetuate the false impression that its an easy ride for everyone. In reality, it is proposed, those people are simply a thin veneer on top of a much larger overworked hive.

Whether or not you believe all that is up to you, but its the way other people see it. Companies are so two-faced and prone to lying that I would not be surprised in the least if Google actually did have a slimy advertising campaign full of false promises like this. But I'm also torn because I know the retards who run the company can't structure or schedule a damn thing correctly or efficiently to save their lives.

Obviously the best solution is to just treat both scenarios like they are absolutely true, at the same time, and never give large tech companies any credit, for anything, whatsoever.

 

[Protistology]

I've heard about people watching Netflix series on 2x speed because they wanna 'maximize their time' or some crap.
Thought it was a meme until now, honestly. Guess reality is once again stranger than fiction.

I saw a guy on Reddit talk about how he preferred manga to anime, because he can skip to the battles in manga and skip the talking parts but you can't do that in anime. I thought it was just him, now I've lost faith in humanity.

 

[quaawaa]

We saw ONE recruitong focused example with the Korean bugman, but I doubt that Google would do this out of the kindness of their hearts or because they’re stupid.


1. Mama Google. How do nerd buy friends in school? Passing out candy and snacks is a tried and tested way. Likewise, the more Google can insert themselves into the employers life, the more they can shower them with seemingly generous but tax deductible expenses that are a rounding error in the big picture, the more Google becomes less of an employer and more of friend/comfort blanket. Look at employee reviews and a lot will say: Pay isn’t that great, but the benefits are GREAT!

2: Take over more of your employees life. Instead of doing a 9-5, the more you insert yourself into your employee’s life, the more the line between work and outside of work blur.

You can leave at 5, but there’s an awesome catered dinner at 6.15… Guess you’ll stay! Oh shit, drycleaning! You brought it in yesterday, it’ll be ready at 7.30. Might as well stay an hour more and look at the documentation instead.

Before you know it, you’ve developed a corporate culture of single, young men leaving at 8 or 9 with nothing but work in their lives.

“They’ll just slack all that time!” Ah, but that’s where Silicon Valley’s famous employee turnover comes into the picture. Stack ranking. Originally started at Microsoft, it exists in almost all SV companies in one form or another. Every quarter every manager need to assign their underlings a rating, and has to find a set percentage that performed the lowest.

The flat presumption is that Google (and many other tech companies cut from a similar cloth) uses those videos to entice new recruits, then pulls the rug out from under them and works them to death once they've actually signed on.

Its also presumed that the employees we do see slacking off for real, as recorded by other parties, are allowed to continue to exist at the company to perpetuate the false impression that its an easy ride for everyone. In reality, it is proposed, those people are simply a thin veneer on top of a much larger overworked hive.

Whether or not you believe all that is up to you, but its the way other people see it. Companies are so two-faced and prone to lying that I would not be surprised in the least if Google actually did have a slimy advertising campaign full of false promises like this. But I'm also torn because I know the retards who run the company can't structure or schedule a damn thing correctly or efficiently to save their lives.

Obviously the best solution is to just treat both scenarios like they are absolutely true, at the same time, and never give large tech companies any credit, for anything, whatsoever.

I’m not going into details but I know people who work there and the overwork thing is a myth and they aren’t being laid off. The company operates on a principle of 10% of the people do 90% of the work. The bugman video matches what I know from them. There isn’t a nefarious trick, their executives honestly believed that they could make employees happy by catering to their every need, but just like with welfare, doing so breeds entitlement and is a recipe for disaster.

Response like yours are cope because people who earn less than half as much as that new grad with a decade of experience can’t believe that he has a lot lower expectations than they do. Remember, the bugman is earning nearly $200k (and spending all of it, but that’s besides the point) so it’s not like he’s being underpaid in cash and given meaningless perks to compensate. Maybe what you’re talking about is true in investment banking but it isn’t true in tech.

 

[L50LasPak]

Response like yours are cope because people who earn less than half as much as that new grad with a decade of experience can’t believe that he has a lot lower expectations than they do. Remember, the bugman is earning nearly $200k (and spending all of it, but that’s besides the point) so it’s not like he’s being underpaid in cash and given meaningless perks to compensate. Maybe what you’re talking about is true in investment banking but it isn’t true in tech.

Employees have been sandbagging their jobs since the beginning of time and the modern workplace has only made that easier, its nothing new. Likewise, I would bet actual money nobody on this website is a hard worker, especially considering its peak log-on and user activity times precisely coincide with the average workweek. Clearly we wouldn't be be here if we had something better to do.

The root of that sandbagging lies with the point I was trying to make. That a modern company cannot be trusted, about any detail, on anything, and must be second guessed at every turn. You can never be fully secure in the ineptitude of a modern corporation, and in general people would much rather work for an inefficient company that never gets anything useful done than one competent enough to threaten them with the harsh workhours most of this thread thinks are hiding behind those glossy TikTok videos.

Obviously the best solution is to just treat both scenarios like they are absolutely true, at the same time, and never give large tech companies any credit, for anything, whatsoever.

Hence my point above.

 

[NoReturn]

We saw ONE recruitong focused example with the Korean bugman, but I doubt that Google would do this out of the kindness of their hearts or because they’re stupid.


1. Mama Google. How do nerd buy friends in school? Passing out candy and snacks is a tried and tested way. Likewise, the more Google can insert themselves into the employers life, the more they can shower them with seemingly generous but tax deductible expenses that are a rounding error in the big picture, the more Google becomes less of an employer and more of friend/comfort blanket. Look at employee reviews and a lot will say: Pay isn’t that great, but the benefits are GREAT!

2: Take over more of your employees life. Instead of doing a 9-5, the more you insert yourself into your employee’s life, the more the line between work and outside of work blur.

You can leave at 5, but there’s an awesome catered dinner at 6.15… Guess you’ll stay! Oh shit, drycleaning! You brought it in yesterday, it’ll be ready at 7.30. Might as well stay an hour more and look at the documentation instead.

Before you know it, you’ve developed a corporate culture of single, young men leaving at 8 or 9 with nothing but work in their lives.

“They’ll just slack all that time!” Ah, but that’s where Silicon Valley’s famous employee turnover comes into the picture. Stack ranking. Originally started at Microsoft, it exists in almost all SV companies in one form or another. Every quarter every manager need to assign their underlings a rating, and has to find a set percentage that performed the lowest.

Stack ranking was created in the 80's at GE. Balmer, Microsoft's worst CEO was the one who implemented it. After he left, Nadella rightfully abandoned it.

I highly recommend that anyone curious about this shit read Dave Eggers The Circle. Do not watch the film, the bits of the book relevant to this topic are mostly left out or glossed over.
TL;DR: The worldbuilding in it is basically just a mashup of things that a lot of these companies are doing irl, just put into a single company. So it covers things like stack ranking, point ranking, reviews/review inflation, the effects company benefits on lifestyle, etc.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

The flat presumption is that Google (and many other tech companies cut from a similar cloth) uses those videos to entice new recruits, then pulls the rug out from under them and works them to death once they've actually signed on.

Its also presumed that the employees we do see slacking off for real, as recorded by other parties, are allowed to continue to exist at the company to perpetuate the false impression that its an easy ride for everyone. In reality, it is proposed, those people are simply a thin veneer on top of a much larger overworked hive.

Whether or not you believe all that is up to you, but its the way other people see it. Companies are so two-faced and prone to lying that I would not be surprised in the least if Google actually did have a slimy advertising campaign full of false promises like this. But I'm also torn because I know the retards who run the company can't structure or schedule a damn thing correctly or efficiently to save their lives.

Obviously the best solution is to just treat both scenarios like they are absolutely true, at the same time, and never give large tech companies any credit, for anything, whatsoever.

Usually the ones they allow to goof off like that or the useless white women / diversity HR people while they are still young and cute.

When they get more experience / get uglier they move to the HR departments at manufacturing companies and companies in Oil and Gas.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Worse, these are all probably scripts given to them by a Google advertising rep. They're trying to sell people on the "community and lifestyle" of being a Google employee. They only offer these benefits so you have less time outside of the Google system and spend more time there.

Most likely but they also work at the american headquarters, HQ for these corporations are little more than fronts, no one is doing any real work there so i can absolutely believe their entire workday is just meaningless meetings and answering redundant emails while all the actual work that needs to get done is subcontracted, outsourced or done in any of the hundred subsidiary offices the main company owns around the globe. American work culture nowadays is that everything thats slightly difficult, grindy or tedious gets delegated to someone else while american focuses on "development" and "creative work" (a.k.a bullshit HR busywork)

 

[a very special boy]

Watching TV / Listening to music at 2x speed is highly consoomist behaviour. Regardless of if its high art or lowbrow shlock, content is made to be interpreted one way intentionally by a creator or director. Consooming it at a faster rate for the sake of consooming it more "efficiently" derides the point. If you're watching something that doesn't lose its value when you watch it at 2x speed, then what's the point in watching it at all? For the clout of being --person who watched 'X' show-- so you can brag about it on reddit?

I think I understand why Scorsese gets so autistic when people watch movies on phones. Give me hats if you want but I will die on this hill.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Saw this on Reddit today. If I walked in someone’s house and saw a bookshelf filled with this shit I’d be judging harshly.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Saw this on Reddit today. If I walked in someone’s house and saw a bookshelf filled with this shit I’d be judging harshly.

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Don't those larger graphic novels start out in the $35 to $50 range and only go up from there? That's gotta be at least a solid used car in terms of sticker price sitting on that bookshelf.

 

[UncleFuckAss]

If I'm half way through a movie and I'm not feeling it, sometimes I'll put it on 1.5. I don't see why you'd do that with a tv series though; you shouldn't waste that much time on something unless you like it even at increased speed.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

What exactly is it that tips the scales and turns someone from a regular consumer to a consoomer? Obviously people like MovieBob make sense, but how do you prevent yourself from going down that same path?

Probably the need to show off your consumerism. It's a fine line between "i really like x and want to show it to others" to "let me flex on you by showing off all i have".

Enjoy things because you do not for clout.

I saw a guy on Reddit talk about how he preferred manga to anime, because he can skip to the battles in manga and skip the talking parts but you can't do that in anime. I thought it was just him, now I've lost faith in humanity.

Disgusting. I bet he enjoys the "hurrr i just beat the big bad now i need to get stronger for the next big bad" of Dragonball Z compared to the fun adventures of Dragonball.

Speed watching at 1.5-1.75 is great for video courses, especially on topics your are familiar with

 

[a very special boy]

I saw a guy on Reddit talk about how he preferred manga to anime, because he can skip to the battles in manga and skip the talking parts but you can't do that in anime. I thought it was just him, now I've lost faith in humanity.

There's a not insignificant portion of people who just watch anime battle scenes that skip every few seconds to avoid copyright and are disgustingly upscaled to 60fps on youtube. Again, consoomer culture creating people who want to be part of a group whilst engaging in none of that group's activities. Anime in particular seems like a strange thing to skip through, since so many of it's "best moments" come from building up character arcs e.g. Gohan in DBZ. If you just watch the clip of Gohan going SSJ2 without context, it has no emotional payoff and is relegated to "a cool moment" where a kid screams when some bug squashes a robot.

 

[Pissmaster]

Watching TV / Listening to music at 2x speed is highly consoomist behaviour. Regardless of if its high art or lowbrow shlock, content is made to be interpreted one way intentionally by a creator or director. Consooming it at a faster rate for the sake of consooming it more "efficiently" derides the point. If you're watching something that doesn't lose its value when you watch it at 2x speed, then what's the point in watching it at all? For the clout of being --person who watched 'X' show-- so you can brag about it on reddit?

I think I understand why Scorsese gets so autistic when people watch movies on phones. Give me hats if you want but I will die on this hill.

Oh, I absolutely agree. Scorsese's kinda right about experiencing films on your telephone: overwhelming, bombastic situations just don't have the same impact when viewed on a handheld screen. You can't really be overwhelmed in the same sense. Stakes just don't feel as high. Even if you're using a fairly big phone and a high quality pair of headphones. But, whatever, I can see why people in different life situations would prefer to view a film on their phone for one reason or another. I'm sure a cellphone is the best screen most people own by a country mile, now that the flagships are all pushing 4k resolution with OLED screens. After all, were films not enjoyed for decades on 4:3 CRTs screens that rarely exceeded 32", played from VHS tapes, with pan & scan editing that crops out the sides of the screen?

But kicking up the speed compromises pacing and delivery. Granted, a lot of modern films are very slow-paced because of hack directors that don't understand pacing themselves, but improper pacing is a reason a scene can feel cheesy and unearned. And if that's the case, and you need to watch at an unnaturally fast pace to not get bored to death, you may as well just read a plot summary on IMDB and mark it off your list. And then you'll have all this extra time to do something soul-enriching and enjoyable, like carving NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER into the bathroom stall at your job.

 

[a very special boy]

you may as well just read a plot summary on IMDB and mark it off your list

Oh, you've reminded me of one of the mostly baffling channels I've seen on youtube. Presented without further comment:

https://www.youtube.com/c/FilmRecapsHere

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

Looks like brother might be a sped or at least has a violent streak by the looks of the comments

Late, but looks like said brother threatened OP with a knife so he’s definitely a dangerous kind

 

[make_it_so]

What exactly is it that tips the scales and turns someone from a regular consumer to a consoomer? Obviously people like MovieBob make sense, but how do you prevent yourself from going down that same path?

I figure it's kind of like that legal definition of obscenity - "You know it when you see it."

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Don't those larger graphic novels start out in the $35 to $50 range and only go up from there? That's gotta be at least a solid used car in terms of sticker price sitting on that bookshelf.

I’ve bought a few graphic novels in my time, less than ten, all sci-fi shit. I think $50 was the most I’ve ever spent? Though it was an edition which came with a hand drawn trading card. I’ve seen some go for up to $100. Fuck that, just get it used off of eBay for half the price. I figure that if you actually gave a shit about the contents you wouldn’t mind if it’s second hand. What’s the point of having all of this crap if you never even read it, so it stays pristine? It’s not like the average person is going to walk in your house and be blown away by an ikea shelf full of capeshit, without a single actual novel to be found amongst the shelves.

But what particularly rustles my jimmies are the duplicate copies of Batman and Green Lantern. I thought they were volumes, but no. Just WHY?

 

[Vingle]

you may as well just read a plot summary on IMDB and mark it off your list. And then you'll have all this extra time to do something soul-enriching and enjoyable, like carving NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER into the bathroom stall at your job.

I feel touched and I would do this, if I didn't get caught immediately. Because the thought of it it just too funny

I was going to comment on @NoReturn's video dump. I'm unsure if that nigger in the skirts and dress was a parody or not.

 

[NoReturn]

Oh, you've reminded me of one of the mostly baffling channels I've seen on youtube. Presented without further comment:

https://www.youtube.com/c/FilmRecapsHere

This is a whole genre of YouTube channels

I was going to comment on @NoReturn's video dump. I'm unsure if that nigger in the skirts and dress was a parody or not.

HA HA! You wish you were right!