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Two top House Dems decline to say Biden should run in 2024
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Michelle L. Price
2022-08-03 01:00:12GMT

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NEW YORK (AP) — Two powerful House Democrats from New York each declined Tuesday to say that President Joe Biden should run for the White House again in 2024.

Reps. Jerry Nadler and Carolyn Maloney, two of the party’s establishment liberals who chair powerful committees and are competing for a Manhattan-area House seat, shied away from supporting the president when they were asked in a televised debate whether Biden should seek a second term.

Nadler, who chairs the House Judiciary committee, said: “Too early to say. Doesn’t serve the purpose of the Democratic Party to, to deal with that until after the midterms.”

Maloney, who chairs the Oversight committee, said, “I don’t believe he’s running for reelection.”

Their comments follow West Virginia moderate Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, who declined Sunday to endorse the president for a second term, saying he wouldn’t get into it.

New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is more progressive than Nadler, Maloney and Manchin, also demurred when asked in a June CNN interview to say whether she would support Biden running in 2024.

Last month, Minnesota Democratic Rep. Dean Phillips said in a radio interview that he didn’t believe Biden should run again and that “the country would be well-served by a new generation of compelling, well-prepared, dynamic Democrats who step up.”

His Minnesota colleague, Rep. Angie Craig, earlier Tuesday told MinnPost that Democrats “need new leaders in Washington up and down the ballot” when asked if she would support Biden if he runs.

Biden, 79, has said he plans to seek reelection. But as the oldest person to have ever assumed the presidency, Biden has faced persistent questions about whether he will run for a second term.

While Maloney and Nadler each declined to encourage a Biden reelection bid, the third candidate in their primary, 38-year-old attorney Suraj Patel, backed the president. Patel, who has cast his campaign around a need for fresh voices in politics, said simply, “Yes,” when asked if Biden should run again.
 
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Disc said:
Amid all the doom-and-gloom from the anti-abortion crowd, I wanna remind people of an article given by @Vyse Inglebard a few pages back.

Reply bug so here.

In two years they've gone from "Most popular president ever" to "heres how Biden can still win!"
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Yeah, I meant to reply to that one earlier.

@Vyse Inglebard It's telling how that list doesn't put down anything Biden himself can do to win back the voters' confidence, but instead entirely relies on outside forces either acting or fucking up to improve his chances. That premise of the whole article could be boiled down to "and then a miracle happens!"
 
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The Kansas abortion thing doesn't really surprise me. Most people assume the center of the country is heavily Christian and family oriented, but I briefly subcontracted for a strip club in a semi rural town in Southeast Kansas and the majority of our whales were married men that owned farms and drove American muscle cars to church every Sunday. They regularly solicited prostitutes in and outside of the clubs. I can see them going Evangelical on most issues, but not things that will stifle their sexual deviancy.
 
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That's where Gibbs needs to be, just whittle down Kent. A lot of these votes are the in person voting from today, which should help Gibbs immensely. As for Arizona, I think the votes in right now are early votes, so Kari Lake might start chipping away soon.
 
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That's uh... interesting.
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According to RCP Robson has a lead but there's still 41% of the districts that haven't reported in yet. Make of that what you will, given the wildly different outcome here though I wouldn't be surprised if this was the establishment GOP pulling some shit.

:Edit: Seriously, look at this shit. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...arizona_governor_republican_primary-7561.html
For an average of various polls to be off by this much(assuming that the final results are that Robson wins by +9 or something similarly absurd) makes me think some sort of fraud went down. There wasn't any significant forward movement in the aggregate to show that Robson was going to pull an upset like this.
 
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According to RCP Robson has a lead but there's still 41% of the districts that haven't reported in yet. Make of that what you will, given the wildly different outcome here though I wouldn't be surprised if this was the establishment GOP pulling some shit.
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There have been a lot of reports of issues, from pens bleeding through the ballot, to the GOP completely running out of ballots. And now we are sitting here nearly an hour since an update on votes.

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As someone not to familiar with the Arizona state politic scene, which individual(s) in the Republican primary is the Establishment Candidate and which one is the Populist?
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Kari Lake is the MAGA candidate, Robson claimed to be MAGA but she is a RINO with shit tons of money.
 
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There have been a lot of reports of issues, from pens bleeding through the ballot, to the GOP completely running out of ballots. And now we are sitting here nearly an hour since an update on votes.
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Sounds like some possible shenanigans could be afoot if Robson has friends with the state GOP. Making sure to supply less material to polling stations in areas favorable to Lake would be quite the scheme. Logistical blunders aside, the de facto end result is voter disenfranchisement.
 
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