Horrorcow Hollie Dance / Lisa Pittaway / Ella Carter / Archie Battersbee / Lauren Summers/ Dignity For All / Archie's Army / Spread The Purple Wave - The Mama Nails of Essex, Her Whiteknights, and Her A-Logs

'Ol Stinky said:
If I'm being an idiot, I'd like to be corrected, could you provide the thread with anything backing this up? (I'd say can you provide me but I doubt I'm the only one in the thread that would cast doubt.)
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Sure, Last week I was reading about PTSD in children stemming from domestic violence specifically, coincidentally unrelated to this thread. Even babies can experience neurological and hormonal rewiring/recalibration in response to abuse around or towards them. Babies in utero or even those who are sleeping have the structure of their brain changed permanently as per the third article even though they don't experience violence directly.




TL;DR when you have children you get the fuck out the first time you are abused, verbally or otherwise, because it doesn't matter if they're too young to remember when exposure to violence is enough to permanently fuck them up and alter the trajectory of their life.

I have lived next to victims of domestic violence for two years, perpetrator finally got arrested last week. I will never forget the screaming of their baby from 6+ months old whenever the dad popped off and mum was too caught up in getting black eyes to soothe their kid watching it all unfold. He's 2 and a half now but I've heard him scream in a way that makes my blood run cold. Like nothing else I've heard. Kids know when something is wrong even when they're a baby. Even if they make no noise due to shock, it does something to them. If Hollie is openly admitting this one time on social media years later, how many other times did Paul bash her in front of Archie?
 
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'Ol Stinky said:
18 months is a stretch for Archie retaining any of the abuse Hollie is alleging according to google (Earliest memories can start from the age of two-and-a-half). I had other sperging here about how an artifacted-to-hell upload is supposed to prove domestic abuse, but, to be honest I have no idea how this fits at all within the horrorcow story that's unfolding. We know Hollie isn't the smartest, kindest, or most reliable. I suppose it's informative nonetheless. Three cheers for Zombiemom, she left pops after he dusted her for stepping out.

If I'm being an idiot, I'd like to be corrected, could you provide the thread with anything backing this up? (I'd say can you provide me but I doubt I'm the only one in the thread that would cast doubt.
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Purely going by the electoral roll/dissolution of the pole dance company that they co directed/Hollie’s name change, they split mid 2014. Archie was born in March 2010, right? So he was 4.

Arguing may well have continued at kid handovers etc.

It’s weird that she’s so matey with Ronald Paul Battersbee if he’s a confirmed wife beater - she could’ve gone for social worker supervised contact only and more or less excised him from their lives. instead she’s touting him about the papers as a co parent?
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Above Photo from yesterday, Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rents-launch-ditch-plea-save-son-morning.html


Older photo - my ex boyfriend calls this ‘standing tidy’.

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It’s something he was taught to do in the army cadets:
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It was one of the things that really irritated me about him (along with a nose whistle). Hence ex.
 
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A tree said:
Woman whos misappropriated going on 50k....I wouldn't be so sure. Mama Nails had real Michael Kors and nobody thought they were a knockoff. Same energy.
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Real Michael Kors is still only $200.00 or less-you can buy it at TJ Maxx. (There is a designer named Michael Kors, but his company, owned by Capri Holdings, does ready to wear under the Kors name, which is just bulk, off the shelf clothing made in China.) He does have a couture line still, I believe, but I haven’t seen it worn in a while.

Nails loved the cheap Michael by Michael Kors line because it was cheap (but a reach for her), urban, and trendy and still had cache among those who could not afford Vuitton-or Balenciaga. (Which was in kind of a slump during those years but which has now regained popularity.)

I don’t think Michael Kors it’s knocked off much since it itself is a often a style knockoff of a designer house. Although if $200.00 is too much and you can pay $50, I suppose somebody will make a copy for $50.

Americhav taste, I guess. :).

Balenciaga is very different. High end, couture, designers who end up as creative directors at Louis Vuitton, or starting their own line-and constantly knocked off. Used to be very well known for Moto Bags, then their tennis shoes, and now a new Hourglass bag, all in the 2k+ range. The moto bag is back so if anybody has an old one, dig it out, it’s popular again. (And practical)

All to say, Hollie is definitely wearing a fake. Even if she could spend $1500 on some piece of clothing, my guess would be something more impressive than a grey hoodie.

I know it’s a Dumb post but I’m a fashion victim and it’s at least not grim like brains behaving like lava lamps in spinal canals.

and … we wait …
 
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'Ol Stinky said:
18 months is a stretch for Archie retaining any of the abuse Hollie is alleging according to google (Earliest memories can start from the age of two-and-a-half). I had other sperging here about how an artifacted-to-hell upload is supposed to prove domestic abuse, but, to be honest I have no idea how this fits at all within the horrorcow story that's unfolding. We know Hollie isn't the smartest, kindest, or most reliable. I suppose it's informative nonetheless. Three cheers for Zombiemom, she left pops after he dusted her for stepping out.

If I'm being an idiot, I'd like to be corrected, could you provide the thread with anything backing this up? (I'd say can you provide me but I doubt I'm the only one in the thread that would cast doubt.)
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That’s simply not true, witnessing and expriencing trauma in early development is still likely going to affect you for the rest of your life even if you’re not consciously aware of it. I personally still have specific memories from around age one and that’s pretty common.
 
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Kate Moss said:
Looks like an appeal is going to be submitted, though its cutting it fine, I think it's deliberately going to be as close to the deadline as possible to extend it further.

It's on the radio here, in all likelihood this will buy another 24 hours while it's rejected and he will be turned off tomorrow now.
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Unreal. I feel like we were hearing about her exhausting her last appeal five or six appeals ago. Is anyone going to put a stop to this Chavherazade shit, or are the courts just going to keep extending the process every 24 hours until Archie mummifies?
 
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Polycule Poirot said:
Unreal. I feel like we were hearing about her exhausting her last appeal five or six appeals ago. Is anyone going to put a stop to this Chavherazade shit, or are the courts just going to keep extending the process every 24 hours until Archie mummifies?
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All the interventions he currently has can only sustain the body for weeks at most. It is decaying, that will spread, cause infection that he's just too fragile to fight off even if they pump him full of antibiotics.

He won't persist in that state for much longer regardless, thankfully. I have seen they were reluctant to go to the echu because it has been set as the "last resort" and doing so is admitting she has no other avenues of appeal left. We can reasonably hope tomorrow it will be over.
 
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Virgo said:
Sure, Last week I was reading about PTSD in children stemming from domestic violence specifically, coincidentally unrelated to this thread. Even babies can experience neurological and hormonal rewiring/recalibration in response to abuse around or towards them. Babies in utero or even those who are sleeping have the structure of their brain changed permanently as per the third article even though they don't experience violence directly.
TL;DR when you have children you get the fuck out the first time you are abused, verbally or otherwise, because it doesn't matter if they're too young to remember when exposure to violence is enough to permanently fuck them up and alter the trajectory of their life.
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Thanks for the schooling. I looked at all the links. I'll leave my post up so people can follow the replies.
 
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Kate Moss said:
Looks like an appeal is going to be submitted, though its cutting it fine, I think it's deliberately going to be as close to the deadline as possible to extend it further.

It's on the radio here, in all likelihood this will buy another 24 hours while it's rejected and he will be turned off tomorrow now.
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And tomorrow another appeal will be lodged at the 11th hour.

Yes it goes on and on, my friends...
 
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Bit of a delay, but these are from one of Hollie's TV interviews yesterday (Sky News)

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And after the interview, she couldn't help but sneak a look back to see if people were still watching her...

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I dunno. Maybe someone has told her that turning out in full drag queen face every day lessens her credibility. Most parents realise they'd struggle to dress themselves in clean clothes and run a brush through their hair if they expected their child to be dead within days.
 
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Bishbashbosh said:
They are not working class. They are underclass cretins. They disgust me. I’m working class. I work very hard and support my family and pay my bills etc. she’s a fucking grifter on benefits. She’s not my class.
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She's not mine either. I'm working class through and through, and at no point have I descended to this level of bullshittery.

I also know the pain of losing a child after an extremely difficult decision. But it was - save a child who would undoubtedly die, or let them suffer.

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What would/will happen if she tries to stop them removing his life support? If she throws herself on top of him, say?

I know they will do everything to mediate and reason with her… But if (when) that fails, will they forcibly keep her away from his body? They must be so aware she will use anything against them in any way she can. I know they have tried to stop her filming, but I wonder if they will in order to have evidence if it goes to trial and she tries to claim abuse.

I can’t imagine how stressed the staff are that have to carry this out. I wonder if they will get staff from a different hospital in the trust to do it? So they wouldn’t be seen around that hospital again?
I’ve seen references to the Alfie Evans case but can’t find details online. What happened when they withdrew his support? I know there were comments alluding to his parents being antagonistic.

As an aside, I think it is telling that Connie Yates, Charlie Gard’s mum, who is currently trying to get a bill passed to allow parents more say in situations like Charlie’s, hasn’t aligned herself with Hollie.
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Because this isn't the same as Charlie. He had a chance through an experimental treatment. Archie has no hope.

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This particular child and his mum happen to also qualify to benefit from what is tantamount to state-funded 1:1 education, DLA, Carer's Allowance, etc. Quite certain it was explained in detail earlier in the thread. There are also costs in time and money relating to future legal proceedings, and Archie was simply not on track to becoming a very productive working citizen.

Noah was born missing parts of an ordinary brain. It's an ongoing debate whether his brain was squashed or if some of it had in fact grown afterwards (look for pre-covid mentions of him). Mentioning him was a reminder that human understanding of the brain is unbelievably limited. There was not meant to be any comparison - only a note that expressing any sort of certainty in medicine is unwise, especially when it involves the brain.
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Oh for sure. But what we do know in regards to damage to the brain and bodily functions was more than relevant. In that, the damage due to hypoxia was there from the first MRI, and each one showed greater degradation.

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'He hanged himself'
'He tripped and fell on his shoelaces and hit his head'

Yeah, ok. Anybody who makes up directly contradictory stories like that is hiding something and has something to do with that persons death. That shit is the red flag of red flags. There is no other reason to do something like that

That said, the longer this goes on the more it makes me wonder if they're going to push this until archie is nothing but a pair of lungs and a heart suspended in a tank that can just scream and excrete black fluid like the bodies used to incubate the blackwing virus in that star wars death troopers novel
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She's also forgetting all 999 calls are recorded, just in case they're needed for court. And the paramedics who initially treated him on the way to hospital aren't likely to forget this in a hurry.

Virgo said:
Sure, Last week I was reading about PTSD in children stemming from domestic violence specifically, coincidentally unrelated to this thread. Even babies can experience neurological and hormonal rewiring/recalibration in response to abuse around or towards them. Babies in utero or even those who are sleeping have the structure of their brain changed permanently as per the third article even though they don't experience violence directly.




TL;DR when you have children you get the fuck out the first time you are abused, verbally or otherwise, because it doesn't matter if they're too young to remember when exposure to violence is enough to permanently fuck them up and alter the trajectory of their life.

I have lived next to victims of domestic violence for two years, perpetrator finally got arrested last week. I will never forget the screaming of their baby from 6+ months old whenever the dad popped off and mum was too caught up in getting black eyes to soothe their kid watching it all unfold. He's 2 and a half now but I've heard him scream in a way that makes my blood run cold. Like nothing else I've heard. Kids know when something is wrong even when they're a baby. Even if they make no noise due to shock, it does something to them. If Hollie is openly admitting this one time on social media years later, how many other times did Paul bash her in front of Archie?
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Yep. It affects the development of certain emotional centres in their brain even at such a young age. Up until around the age of 6 IIRC, the emotional structures in the brain are still being formed, so domestic violence/abuse before this age can affect and in some cases, severely retard emotional development and regulation.

Kate Moss said:
All the interventions he currently has can only sustain the body for weeks at most. It is decaying, that will spread, cause infection that he's just too fragile to fight off even if they pump him full of antibiotics.

He won't persist in that state for much longer regardless, thankfully. I have seen they were reluctant to go to the echu because it has been set as the "last resort" and doing so is admitting she has no other avenues of appeal left. We can reasonably hope tomorrow it will be over.
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Doctors have said his heart and lungs are shutting down. It is a matter of time.

She's pushing and pushing because she wants to be able to cry "he died on his own! It wasn't sewercide!" Not realising that the special case review and the probable inquest will hear not only the initial 999 call, but witness statements from the paramedics. Her twisting of the narrative means shit against the evidence stacking up
 
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