Dutch farmer revolt 2022

[Ancient Pioneer]

The most annoying thing about these protests is that they "vent" very easily (i.e. if things start to get a bit out of hand, just send 500 jackboots in the direction of the problem and it'll go away in a matter of hours) and it just KILLS any momentum the movement might have had up to that point, but more importantly, it allows the police to shut things down without things getting too bloody, so they can hide behind the facade that those protesting are the violent ones.

The only reason the Floyd protests got any traction at all is because it went straight to riot mode, I can't seem to find it right now but I once had a video recording of the police panicking on the scanner about their window of opportunity to flee the 3rd prescient building being extremely narrow and it was a now or never or the cops themselves would get overrun. They get the verbal go ahead and there was some sort of tone played over the scanner that is usually for firefighters being deployed and some woman starts repeating that the 3rd prescient is to be abandoned. Until you're willing to overpower the police and make them flee your movement wont achieve anything, either you're a citizen or a serf, citizenry have to be ready and willing to overpower the security forces and know when to pull short as to not destroy society, the corrupt "rulers" will never accommodate the citizens unless they're scared, modern policing has become so good that they can just vent the movement and sweep the ring leaders later after identifying them on film over the course of months. The Floyd riots just had stupid demands that quickly got rolled back because they were so destructive, the farmers have more acceptable and positive demands which can be monitored by the citizens.

Edit: Hilariously, right as I post I find the video.

 

[Becky McDonald]

The only reason the Floyd protests got any traction at all is because it went straight to riot mode, I can't seem to find it right now but I once had a video recording of the police panicking on the scanner about their window of opportunity to flee the 3rd prescient building being extremely narrow and it was a now or never or the cops themselves would get overrun. They get the verbal go ahead and there was some sort of tone played over the scanner that is usually for firefighters being deployed and some woman starts repeating that the 3rd prescient is to be abandoned. Until you're willing to overpower the police and make them flee your movement wont achieve anything. The Floyd riots just had stupid demands that quickly got rolled back, the farmers have more acceptable tangible demands.

Edit: Hilariously, right as I post I find the video.
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Exactly. Blacks have balls, but lack the brains.

If the farmers did this, then approached the government with a sensible list of demands and a threat of escalation, one of two things will happen:

1. The government will call in the military, and things will escalate into a full-on civil war
2. The government will acquiesce and learn who truly rules them

But as the Gilet Jaunes showed, simply letting off fireworks in the street and burning dumpsters doesn't work. You just end up looking like a colossal twat before the riot control water jets blow both of your eyes out. The farmers need to come out swinging, or at the very least set up a defensive blockade (i.e. a co-ordinated shut down of all major road thoroughfares like the Canadians did, with spike strips and chicken wire to make removal difficult).

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

This.
When you can't even give money to a good cause without it being intercepted, that's a sign that you are no longer living in a country which permits peaceful protest.

The past 3 - 4 years have proven that we are a joke to them. It is more than high time to begin mobilisation. To begin arming the common people. Not in Minecraft, not in Roblox, not in the Matrix, blood needs to be spilt in the real world before these fuckers take note and act accordingly. The most annoying thing about these protests is that they "vent" very easily (i.e. if things start to get a bit out of hand, just send 500 jackboots in the direction of the problem and it'll go away in a matter of hours) and it just KILLS any momentum the movement might have had up to that point, but more importantly, it allows the police to shut things down without things getting too bloody, so they can hide behind the facade that those protesting are the violent ones.

Because your average person affected by these protests has a job and life they would lose if they decided to give the police/state what they deserve. Your average Antifa/BLM thug doesn't, and putting them in jail does nothing since they were destined to end up there.

I think there's also an element that people think non-violent protest inherently works. Which it does...so long as you have someone of equal or greater power on your side. The Civil Rights movement in the US succeeded because the rest of the country told the South it was time to stop wasting time and money oppressing the negroes, not because a bunch of black people marching getting sprayed with firehoses did anything while the disruptive aspect (the sit-ins and freedom rides) probably put off as many people as they won over. And all of those Color Revolutions in Eastern Europe work because the West backs them.

A lot of people cuck to optics, despite the optics of this protest being "ignorant farmers whining about nothing with ties to far-right neo-Nazis." But at some point, people won't have anything left to lose and realize that taking out a herd of government pigs doesn't actually have any consequences for your side but at least some potential gain (namely terrifying the government, putting less pigs in the street, etc.). The pigheaded stance our Western elite have these days in regards to protests is very, very dangerous for everyone involved.

 

[Becky McDonald]

Because your average person affected by these protests has a job and life they would lose if they decided to give the police/state what they deserve. Your average Antifa/BLM thug doesn't, and putting them in jail does nothing since they were destined to end up there.

Precisely, this is the #1 problem all of these protestors have. They talk the talk, but will almost never act on what they say because they have "a life", and don't want to lose it before it's slowly stripped from them.

They don't live in the "now" as the BLM protestors did. They will happily acquiesce to whichever regime they live under so long as it happens slowly enough. For whatever reason, they are unable to see the bigger picture. If they don't fight today, they won't be able to fight tomorrow.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I think there's also an element that people think non-violent protest inherently works. Which it does...so long as you have someone of equal or greater power on your side. The Civil Rights movement in the US succeeded because the rest of the country told the South it was time to stop wasting time and money oppressing the negroes, not because a bunch of black people marching getting sprayed with firehoses did anything while the disruptive aspect (the sit-ins and freedom rides) probably put off as many people as they won over. And all of those Color Revolutions in Eastern Europe work because the West backs them.

This is extremely important and overlooked (intentionally).
Civil disobedience was a brilliant strategy in the South and in India, and it was completely conditional on those places, a civil disobedience strategy relies on the pity of people powerful enough to fight your battles for you.

 

[Afinepickle]

This is extremely important and overlooked (intentionally).
Civil disobedience was a brilliant strategy in the South and in India, and it was completely conditional on those places, a civil disobedience strategy relies on the pity of people powerful enough to fight your battles for you.

100% agreed.

Until the proverbial 'shot heard round the world' of the modern era happens all of these protests are just meaningless blustering. We're well passed the point where talking or demonstrations will accomplish anything.

 

[K-Hole]

https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1555621590074900482

https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1554103802407657474

 

[RX-78]

https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1555621590074900482

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https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1554103802407657474

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Fingers crossed the first post is genuine accelerationism and isn't just bluster.

 

[ZazietheBeast]

100% agreed.

Until the proverbial 'shot heard round the world' of the modern era happens all of these protests are just meaningless blustering. We're well passed the point where talking or demonstrations will accomplish anything.

Yuri Bezmenov outright says it when it came to dealing with subversion of power. A nicely worded letter won't get you results.

 

[Balr0g]

Fingers crossed the first post is genuine accelerationism and isn't just bluster.

The main problem is that the media has a basic black out on those things. Where I live it was a small article on these negotiations and they blamed the farmers for not going back on their demands. And let's not forget we have farmer protests in Ireland, Italy and Poland as well. It is spreading. Heck in Germany the green minister of enviroment warned German farmers that strong preotests will not be acceptable. That comes from a party that in essence doesn't care about highway blockades by brainwashed enviromentalists

 

[RX-78]

The main problem is that the media has a basic black out on those things. Where I live it was a small article on these negotiations and they blamed the farmers for not going back on their demands. And let's not forget we have farmer protests in Ireland, Italy and Poland as well. It is spreading. Heck in Germany the green minister of enviroment warned German farmers that strong preotests will not be acceptable. That comes from a party that in essence doesn't care about highway blockades by brainwashed enviromentalists

I'm not worried about the media blackout since the people who really give a damn are already aware of what is going on, to say nothing of Dutchmen themselves posting updates on the situation. The token dipolmatic effort has failed, as diplomacy always does, now its time for the farmers to nut up or shut up.

 

[bebopsingh]

How long till they call in the troops and gun down the protestors?

 

[ZazietheBeast]

How long till they call in the troops and gun down the protestors?

Who knows at this point. People unironically want to go back to their former lives but as long as the WEF globalist fucks have that dream of their dystopia they'll do what they can to enact total enslavement.

So this will either play out like the Canadian trucker protest or outright the beginning of a global French revolution.

 

[Thiletonomics]

How long till they call in the troops and gun down the protestors?

What I am worried is if the troops will threaten to hurt the protestor's families instead/or as well, or just outright shoot and gun down those said family members.

 

[Becky McDonald]

At this point, exposure is the #1 issue.

As I've said in this thread before, the most powerful thing any news corp can do to discredit these protests is to not cover them at all. Give them zero airtime and it'll seem like a non-issue. What the Canadians did was force the news to cover them by essentially shutting down the economy for a few days. What the Dutch have to do is a step beyond that; shut down the major thoroughfares, including rail, and make sure there's enough of a mess that it can't be cleaned up in a matter of hours. If the real-world jannies want to lick authoritarian boot, then they should at least make it a very hard task for them.

 

[Trapitalism]

How long till they call in the troops and gun down the protestors?

Rate me optimistic but I just don't think they will. That would be far too overt and may cause intense anger. I'd be the last resort (and I mean last resort). I'd imagine they'd go for a safer, less extreme and more subtle approach first. something along the lines of Zersetzung used by the Stasi or some other assortment of similar tactics.

 

[Just_Somebody]

The biggest issue for the Dutch is that they're not an English speaking country. Actually finding coverage on this in MSM in Canada is basically impossible, and I'm not sure if this is even being covered in the US. Outside of some Telegram groups I couldn't tell you much of what is happening.

As much as it would be nice to fundraise for them there's no chance the money would go where it'll need to go. The best option is flying there and giving it to protesters directly. Really highlights how some protests are basically government approved (environmental, BLM)

 

[Stoneheart]

How long till they call in the troops and gun down the protestors?

they cant. they dont have enough grunts willing to do that. they dont even fully controll the police.

 

[RX-78]

they cant. they dont have enough grunts willing to do that. they dont even fully controll the police.

Are you certain about that? In America every cop is sub-100 IQ meat golem thoroughly screened for obedience by a system specifically designed to manufacture police states since the 60's and I can't see any other soros-backed country straying from that model.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1555621590074900482

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https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1554103802407657474

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I don't know if this has been covered here but here's why these "negotiations" were intentionally doomed from the start:

The government actually had the balls to put forth as a representative/mediator THE guy that was one of the main hardliners in favor of essentially gassing livestock farmers in particular in the original muh nitrogen report hoax that started all of this bullshit. It's like sending in uncle Adolf to negotiate with the Jewish population regarding the Final Solution and then gaslighting them for not wanting to talk.