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Faceless Enjoyer said:
Mad being the guy who placed the sticker while Kyoon probably the one that planned it or something. Mad would later tried to apologize by claiming that he was forced by Kyoon and one other person (goes by Pokka) and claimed he's underage or someshit. Translation of that post is basically:
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Pokka? The Hololive Historian?
 
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Fireflies said:
While I can't say you're wrong, I'd still think it's too early to tell with Namie, given it's only been 2 and bit weeks since she left.
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Namgoreng Twitch:
AVG. viewers - 95
Peak viewers - 239

Joins Hololive. Does literally nothing. Leaves. No indication of injustice to create a rally of white knights.

banaNamie YouTube viewers - 8K+
 
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Faceless Enjoyer said:
I still can't find much regarding the Rio issue apart of the first tweet by the faggy writer getting alot of malding comments in Japanese and englis/engrish (and he hid the replies too, fucking coward), so not much I can say about it.

I did however, decided to check around the ollie QRcode hijack thing and discovered that the guy who placed the rogue QR code bit more than what he could chew, as them ID folks (the ones on the Facebook group that shared the QR code in the first place) manages to trace at least two dumbass that orchestrated the whole shenanigans.

From what I gathered, the two guys are from a obscure/small ID-focused vtuber anti-discord server that has this hateboner toward HoloID (to the point of having a role specifically for hating ollie, along with your typical discord sperging stuff), who then have this funni idea to hijack the QR code. One guy decided to went through with it, but goes full PANIK when someone scanned the QR code mere moments after he placed it.
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(screenshot from said FB group's comments, don't know how to archive it, sorry)
Mad being the guy who placed the sticker while Kyoon probably the one that planned it or something. Mad would later tried to apologize by claiming that he was forced by Kyoon and one other person (goes by Pokka) and claimed he's underage or someshit. Translation of that post is basically:
"OH SHIT OH FUCK, FUCK ME AAAAAH,"
"the fuck's wrong with you"
"WHEN I STICK IT (the QR code), THE GUY WENT AND SCANNED IT. FUCKING HELL, I BAILED."

After all that stuff, the two guys left that server and switched their nickname (I believed the Kyoon one purged everything, since his FB was found due to usual bad opsec), the server that the two came from immediately washes their hands in case of retaliations while the facebook folks tried their best to find them again while laughing at them. Last I checked, Kyoon's discord account is unknown while Mad (now Denji) is still visible on a big Hololive fan discord and HoloID fan discord server that I happened to be in and thus sharing that whole "mutual server" thing.

Worth noting that not only there's CCTV like you said before, apparently someone on that facebook group might or might not see the guy who placed the sticker and thus has the physical description of the guy. Though honestly, even with all of this, the whole shebang might be forgotten in like, a couple of days, probably.
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Keep us posted, I'm still unable to dig further because of irl stuff, but this case should be fun because Indonesian internet literally has no chill when they're on vengeance's path. Hell, I'm not surprised if these kids will get doxxed soon with irl names and all

Also yes, in cases like this, it's usually either stupid underage kid with too much free time, or manchildren too hungry for clout in their circle of friends
Burnt Fish said:
the fucks with an Indonesian using a confederate flag in his name.
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It's complicated, I swear I will explain it someday
And no, it has nothing to do with white supremacists or hating blacks
Avokado said:
Pokka? The Hololive Historian?
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It will be a great plot twist if it turns out that faggot is also responsible for this
 
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Good Ol' Chum said:
Blue boy's live with Gungeon.
He's talked about the Cult of the Lamb vod getting privated and confirms that it was due to him playing Ghibli music on the cello. VOD's still down to edit out the cello bits, I believe.
Also chat's teaching him about what "kino" means lmao.
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At least there are clips of his performance
Speaking of Altare, he had a little conversation with Kobo on Twitter :story:
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Burnt Fish said:
the fucks with an Indonesian using a confederate flag in his name.
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I have no fucking idea, just like how some discord servers make weird roles and shit. Though I did check and apparently its a role for the anti-server for uh... "Top Global Resing".

Thankfully, I decided to act like a moron who uses discord server daily and managed to find the same discord server that QR code dudes were using. The server, for being a "server to talk about stuff and vtuber past life while being anti" has these gay system where you need to be active and post whatever just to get enough score to get the channel for past life discussion. Which is still gay.

Either way, "Top Global Resing", according to some goyims there are just custom role made by the one that boosted the server.

Avokado said:
Pokka? The Hololive Historian?
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I believe so. The server linked at least 3 youtube channel that does them HoloID past life stuff, in particular Hololive Miner and P09, along with well... this one, which is the name of the discord server in question. I don't really know about that historian guy, but considering the ties with these past life diggers, they might have something in common.

Rezza said:
Keep us posted, I'm still unable to dig further because of irl stuff, but this case should be fun because Indonesian internet literally has no chill when they're on vengeance's path. Hell, I'm not surprised if these kids will get doxxed soon with irl names and all

Also yes, in cases like this, it's usually either stupid underage kid with too much free time, or manchildren too hungry for clout in their circle of friends
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So far the server tried to move on from them things, but I believe they realized that the Mad guy and Kyoon fucked up bad and made some fun outta it. I tried to keep myself in that server for a bit, but this whole "must gain score to get access to Past life discussion roles" is very, utterly, seriously gay as fuck.

I hate it here.
Rratcatcher said:
Rio has been freed from Youtube prison and is doing a guerilla MC stream.

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Hey, that's pretty fast! Good for him, and fuck that writer dude.
 
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Fireflies said:
Not that I want to shill for Susan, but who uses Twitch ? / s
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It was her only public-facing platform of 'content creation' prior to becoming Sana so it's all we have. banaNamie wasn't created until May 2022.

Twitch, to its credit, is also much better than YouTube at giving complete greenhorns and Indies a platform. People watch Twitch. People watch Indies on Twitch. The by-category search index is more friendly to users than the YT algorithm which is why every person I can think of in HoloEN and NijiEN that was an indie V-Tuber existed on Twitch. I hope that is a decent answer to the question.

Ensok said:
Damn, how evil of hololive to make people successful just by being one of the few to get in.
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Literally no one suggested it was evil. It just is what it is. If someone is unsure if Namie has received an astronomical boost to her viewership solely for being Sana then I'm happy to tell them she has.

I don't understand why people feel the need to be defensive over this kind of thing. Delta, Kson, and Namie were far smaller creators until after people followed them from Hololive. Misumi gets 1-2K viewers despite being a fresh account made after Lulu retired. Michael Cat rakes in viewership despite having existed only as a personal twitter account until Rushia was sacked.

There's no shame in accepting that getting into the company guarantees some semblance of success and it also guarantees that said success will follow you if you chose to leave.
 
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Faceless Enjoyer said:
I'm not exactly well-versed in Holostars, let alone JP branch, but it seems that some shenanigan had just happened on one of them UPROAR member, Minase Rio. From what I've heard, he might not be able to stream for a while due to a copyright strike that had struck his channel.

So he had just done streaming this visual novel called Anonymous;code, from the same series that did Steins;Gate and other VNs that has ";" on its title yesterday and for whatever reason, the dev/writer (not the publisher itself) decided to just, copyright strike the stream VOD because he "was streaming (the VN) for too long" or something like that.
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What's actually annoying about it is that the copyright strike happened while Rio is livestreaming, and it leads to him getting 90 days of no stream (as per YT rules, which am not really sure about, pls correct me if am wrong). Combined with the faggot literally added a "lol" on his post, the fag's nonsensical excuse of streaming his VN "too long" and his smug attitude on that post makes people really not happy and wishing that he would die and other stuff.

The publisher tried to apologized and stating that they do give Holostars vtubers permission to play the game, and yet, they somehow wrote Rio's name wrong, so they had to apologize again.
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The news is a bit recent so not much has actually happening so far, but its effect is already clear, since his recent tweet on a non-holostars focused minecraft collab has him mentioning that he will not have his own POV and that he made another tweet after that tweet stating the usual "management is handling it, please don't cause issue" statement.

I have some knowledge of Indonesian, so I can read it to an extent.

It says that someone in Indo has found out that an Ollie Anti has placed another QR code ontop of the QR code at the Hololive ID advertisement that would've linked to Ollie's YT account and said rogue QR code has this list of "10 sins of Ollie", that looks to be a screencap of a discord bot that listed this list of:
1. She's too flirtatious and making other HoloID felt bad
2. Doxxed Reine on a Gartic collab
3. Can't take joke and went angry at the ID viewers
4. Carrying the "2 view" circle to the stream and other member
5. Being too thirsty to Connor (CDawgVA) to the point that he's felt bothered about it
6. Bringing Moona into Connor's APEX circle
7. Pretty much a Menhera and is not healthy (mentally)
8. Her voice is shit and she screams alot
9. Making viewers seeing her playing apex even if she's a noob
10. Self-leaked herself so that it is known that Ollie is (IRL name).

Not gonna lie... that anti sure hates her guts.
EDIT: I found the full image of said "Ollie sin list", so I fixed the cut-off part of no.9 on the list.
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On the topic of Minase Rio not being able to stream, I can say for sure at least that much can be seen to be either false or resolved as they're live right now.


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Scuttle said:
I hope that is a decent answer to the question.
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did you just give a serious answer to a question that was presented with sarcasm indicators?
 
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Burnt Fish said:
Well in HoloRUST news, Matsuri and Pekora are breaking into Miko's house while Miko is out raiding an NPC base. Expect an impotent Miko rampage later.

Edit: further update.

Peko and Matsuri raid on Miko was successful, made off with a significant amount of stuff from Miko's storage. Miko very nearly caught them in the act, she was on her way home from raiding the oil rig and was stopping to recycle and could hear the C4 going off at her house but she didn't rush home hearing it perhaps thinking it wasn't her home being attacked. Meanwhile Pekora had set up a small temporary base near Miko's house to work out of, using suicide to quick travel back to her main house to resupply when needed. for the last push she came in with a personal helicopter, loaded up as much stuff as she could cram into it and her own bags, and peaced the fuck out maybe 10 seconds before Miko actually got back and saw the damage to her house.

Miko then Stalked around the outside of her house thinking they might still be inside, allowing Peko and Matsuri both a clean escape.
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This time Miko really is going to rape peko

moments fade pain remains said:
"You streamed too much of my work, even though I didn't tell you exactly how much you should stream, so I won't contact the company and try to remove the POV or cut it short, I will copyright strike you while streaming without letting your company know about it. Oh, you might get fucked by YouTube. lol. I mean, I am sorry."

This is the grade A definition of a bitch right here.
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They recently tried to release one of their games on steam and got banned, they need people to support them on anti-censorship grounds so shutting someone down for streaming their game is one of the dumbest things they could have done at this exact moment
 
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agility_ said:
I'll give credit to Ollie's antis, as so far they seem to be the only dedicated anti group to actually get out of bed, go outside and put some effort into their trolling.
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she's worth the effort.

Edit: Just got on to Miko's stream and she's in member's only chat. Anyone know what happen? Did they try to backseat her or is she keeping out the Peko gang?
 
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Scuttle said:
Namgoreng Twitch:
AVG. viewers - 95
Peak viewers - 239

Joins Hololive. Does literally nothing. Leaves. No indication of injustice to create a rally of white knights.

banaNamie YouTube viewers - 8K+
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I don't disagree that Namie is riding the numbers from her time as Sana, and nor will I dispute that she's the least successful member of EN, but to say she did nothing is a bit disingenuous when her stream hours basically tied with Bae for top in Council during the times she was actually active. Which admittedly wasn't very long.

I'm sure she's done other stuff too like mascot design and 3d designs while she was active so she's definitely left a mark and enough of a legacy for people to remember her by.
 
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Scuttle said:
I don't understand why people feel the need to be defensive over this kind of thing.
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I think the wording made people assume you were tribalbaiting.

Connor was definitely correct, to an extent. There is plenty of proof that you could be a nobody in terms of online presence and you'll get a permanent boost as long as you remain active. Sana still greatly underperformed and failed to attract an audience for a long time, even when she did regularly stream between her month break shortly after debut and her content death in early 2022. Her peak viewership was more comparable to NijiEN's girls than the HoloEN ones. In that regards she did well, but compared to her gen-mates made it way more obvious she fell behind quite a bit.

Either way, no way she retains that viewership on her new account. I doubt she will end up streaming very often, she'll probably stabilize in the 1-2k ccv range. Kson fell off hard between her graduation and now, and if she can't keep her viewership, Namie definitely won't. But that is also not her main priority, so I can't imagine that would matter much.

Where Connor was wrong was continued growth after joining Hololive. They still have to work to maintain some level of decent growth after joining. Sana and her stunted growth is proof of that.
 
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