General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Godzilla1984]

Bro, it's been in development for just eight years by a studio that has had a couple hundred developers for at least five years now, you can't expect alt-tabbing to work properly, it's still a BETA.

In fact, it started out as a browser-based shooter called Contract Wars. And now, years later, all Nikita does is fuck players over with shitty recoil updates and basically ignores any form of criticism at all. That, and it's an 80-person dev team stuck in Moscow, paying out crap for pay...unfortunately, they can't attract anyone talented to work for them anymore, especially recently

Where have I heard this before?

 

[Jeff Gerstmann]

Pippa: "What does PMC mean?"

YOU PLAYED REVENGEANCE
HOW

 

[Retink]

Pippa didn't know what a PMC was, I'm starting to question her survivalist credentials.

 

[Sevatonius]

Tarkov is like Rust wherein you only play it constantly if you hate yourself.

so pretty much every multiplayer game where you have to deal with other players.

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

Where have I heard this before?
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Think less Yanderesim and more Russian Star Citizen, with everything that entails, including the cult-tier community.

To add: Sleepy mentioned that the devs spent a lot of money on rights to include all of the real world gear and weapons. They actually have not. They don't have the rights to most of the gear in the game, it's just that Russia doesn't respect copyright law that much if I remember right. They got into trouble with Spikes Tactical and Springfield some years ago I believe, and just got away with it. They also copyright struck a twitch streamer 72 times after he spilled the beans on them keeping user passwords and emails in PLAINTEXT after they had a data breach for the second or third time in the span of three years.

 

[Jeff Gerstmann]

so pretty much every multiplayer game where you have to deal with other players.

Nigger what

A lot of shooters and MMOs are super fun with other people.

Tarkov and Rust are a very specific cancer.

 

[masterstocking]

Aw, Pippa has her very own sherpa guide! I hope they are aware of the limits for what you can drop for another player...a lot of stuff will disappear at the end of the raid (devs 'trying to prevent cheating')

 

[Retink]

Nigger what

A lot of shooters and MMOs are super fun with other people.

Tarkov and Rust are a very specific cancer.

How do they compare to 7 Days to Die? That was the game I played in the genre, but I think they changed it to be more grindy since I last tried it. Though when I did run it, I just built complex concrete towers for people to run into.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

Bae's Wii Sports avatar looks like a they/them.

 

[masterstocking]

How do they compare to 7 Days to Die? That was the game I played in the genre, but I think they changed it to be more grindy since I last tried it. Though when I did run it, I just built complex concrete towers for people to run into.

7 Days To Die is great for friends; you can have private servers with no outsider raiding. I, uh, may have a large amount of time sunk into that game (ever since it was a Steam Greenlight game)

 

[DALKurumiTokisaki]

like yeah there's some examples of hololive talking about family, or kobo about her ex, but the point being made wasn't "heh we talk about this and they don't" it was "we don't have to worry about talking about that" which, sorry if anyones in denial on that front, but hololive does, every person you've seen have their mom on in hololive probably went through several steps of managerial approval to do so, Kobo's manager probably shit the bed when Kobo talked about her ex, and just imagine the shitshow that would ensue if a JP girl did that. They have their moms on but notice how it's still kept a unicorn sanctuary and no ones ever had their dad on? closest thing might be Matsuri at one point having her littler brother on alongside her mom once.

IRyS had her entire family call in including her father though? Also have you ever tuned into Choco's streams? Choco talks about her love life and her audience is very supportive of her. Typically the main barrier for certain Holos to get permission for their families to enter is whether or not they may or may not say something yab. I don't mean haha sex joke either I mean things like Ame's brother being a conspiracy nut case and Mori's father possibly being a bit unintentionally racist due to being a Southern Texan Father.

 

[BibiLivesMatter]

Edit: To be more on topic, I will say that there are occasionally Vtubers who can make Tarkov work for streams:

Hmm...I can't tell if it's the accent or is the person trans. I think i'll need our @SandyCat dog to sniff around and confirm. Maybe @Takodachi senses to make sure as well!

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Nigger what

A lot of shooters and MMOs are super fun with other people.

Tarkov and Rust are a very specific cancer.

Yeah I know about Rust with playing it a bit in mid 2010's, can confirm that game can get cancerous and you have to be part of a clan if you wanna do fun stuff. Unless you can get your own private server with boosted resources and cool peeps to play with, it is hell.

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How do they compare to 7 Days to Die? That was the game I played in the genre, but I think they changed it to be more grindy since I last tried it. Though when I did run it, I just built complex concrete towers for people to run into.

7 Days to Die is nowhere near Rust toxic levels. It's honestly a fun game with friends or with randos. Honestly I think 7 days is one of few survival games I played where randos really don't shoot you on sight and actually do stuff together in a pvp server. of course there's killing and backstabbing, but people have more fun working together doing quests or building stupid shit. LIke a endless tower with cartoonish levels of traps and turrets for the blood moon nights.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Mori's father possibly being a bit unintentionally racist due to being a Southern Texan Father.

Does he break out into a certain theme song about a Boss?

 

[Retink]

7 Days To Die is great for friends; you can have private servers with no outsider raiding.

Yea, but then randos can't run into your concrete castles to explore. Though really when I played it was mostly with friends and I dropped it when I was running it solo, it's just not fun when you're not hanging out with people.

where randos really don't shoot you on sight and actually do stuff together in a pvp server.

I have never experienced that, I always got shot on sight, but I probably also always shot first. They did have problems with people being able to steal your shit by hacking, though the modded servers were really awesome as they'd go really hard on the skill trees and shit.

 

[Hff201]

re: the VShojo/"Talent Freedom" talk -

It feels less of a sincere selling point for the company and more just a way to deflect responsibility, and it carries implications that more responsibly-managed corpos are somehow at fault for trying to keep their shit together. VShojo has no meaningful self-built identity to the point where it might as well just be a randomly assorted group of indies - the only cohesiveness they have is that most of the girls have some kind of drama or baggage following them.

Vtubing doesn't explicitly have to be idol culture, the Phase Connect girls don't fit the idol mold but still respect what the community's about, but all Talent Freedom has brought to the table is "twitch thot, but with an anime avatar" - and the novelty for that's long worn off at this point.

 

[Retink]

Real question, is the P90 a meme gun or is it actually good? It just looks a bit goofy to me but if it's actually good I'll buy one just for the fuck of it.

 

[masterstocking]

Oh Jesus, can you imagine being some level 60 chad in Tarkov, and you find out you got smoked live on stream by first-time player Pippa Pipkin?

 

[2DUM4U]

Mori's father possibly being a bit unintentionally racist due to being a Southern Texan Father.

Does he break out into a certain theme song about a Boss?

Reminds me. When she did her Boondocks Saints watchalong, iirc she mentioned that it was her Dad who first showed her the movie. I seem to recall her chat being pretty crazy during the famous joke scene (why are all the clips of this so old and low quality?)

I'll bet it was her Dad who introduced her to Boss Nigger too.

 

[DALKurumiTokisaki]

tl;dr: Talent freedom has been repeated so many times by their talents that it doesn't really feel like it has any weight at all

A major problem is that "Talent Freedom" doesn't really translate to more unique content also. Out of all the members the ones have done anything of note content wise that's unique is Ironmouse, Kson, and Melody. Kson and Ironmouse is using the freedom to get more models for themselves and Mouse has been trying to do things like act as an ambassador for notable companies through her talk show. Melody gets points for being the pioneer of being a Vtubing Camgirl but outside them their hasn't really been anything spectacular or notable.

 

[EliteDoragon]

Vtubing doesn't explicitly have to be idol culture, the Phase Connect girls don't fit the idol mold but still respect what the community's about, but all Talent Freedom has brought to the table is "twitch thot, but with an anime avatar" - and the novelty for that's long worn off at this point.

Pippa may not fit the idol mold, but she is made of mold.