Future of the House

[Rukario]

Two toughts:

1/ Barb can recognize Chris hoard as part of her hoard: I don't belive that he gives a fuck what she will add to hoard, so I think it is pretty possible that she take his hoard as compensation for ducky thing.

So... I bet that all the lego shit is still on the board.

2/ I think to most moral way to check if the house is still haunted by Barb will be a mail. One from US can send by local mail service a letter with information that will take attention from anyone checking mail box, e.g. "you win $20, send us details how you wish to pick up this cash".

Well, I cannot do that because it will be fuckin weird if a eurofag with eurofag mail will wish to give a US resident money...

Pretend to be from Microsoft or Amazon and put on your best Indian accent when answering the phone.

 

[BobJones997]

2/ I think to most moral way to check if the house is still haunted by Barb will be a mail. One from US can send by local mail service a letter with information that will take attention from anyone checking mail box, e.g. "you win $20, send us details how you wish to pick up this cash".

Definitely a bad idea. I'm no fan of Barb, but at this point she's been through enough and needs to be left alone completely. I'd advise against anyone sending any sort of mail to 14BC.

 

[A-№1]

2/ I think to most moral way to check if the house is still haunted by Barb will be a mail. One from US can send by local mail service a letter with information that will take attention from anyone checking mail box, e.g. "you win $20, send us details how you wish to pick up this cash".

Enough said.

 

[A-№1]

I really shouldn't continue this because it's off topic but why would the Chandlers fuck with the breakers? Hell would Chris even know where they were?

When an outlet stops working, most normal people check the circuit breakers (or fuse box if their house is that old) before calling an electrician. Chris probably doesn't know where that is, or even what it is, and there's no way in hell the Chandlers would pay for an electrician (assuming they could even get one to show up). Chris and Barb apparently just started running increasing numbers of extension cords from a shrinking number of remaining functional outlets until, well, fire put a stop to it (and Chris, of course, blamed the Keurig).

 

[AnOminous]

When an outlet stops working, most normal people check the circuit breakers (or fuse box if their house is that old) before calling an electrician. Chris probably doesn't know where that is, or even what it is, and there's no way in hell the Chandlers would pay for an electrician (assuming they could even get one to show up). He and Barb apparently just started running increasing numbers of extension cords from an increasingly small number of remaining functional outlets until, well, fire put a stop to it (and Chris, of course, blamed the Keurig).

More like the locations where it was possible to put anything like a coffee maker shrunk until nowhere but the bathroom was left, which apparently didn't have an outlet. It was probably piles of Barbage that were blocking the outlets, not that they stopped working.

 

[A-№1]

It was probably piles of Barbage that were blocking the outlets, not that they stopped working.

That too. It was probably a combination of both, actually. As barbage blocked outlets, they started running extension cords from the outlets they could still reach, thereby overloading them and tripping their breakers. So eventually the only functional outlets were blocked by barbage except for the bathroom outlet which was kept clear by their need to nominally still use that room as a bathroom.

which apparently didn't have an outlet.

The bathroom had an outlet. The building code requiring it is older than 14BLC. The house might even have been new enough for it to have been a 20 amp circuit. The Keurig was kept in the hall just outside the bathroom because Chris needed access to water to use it, he can't be bothered to walk for his overpriced flavored coffee, and the kitchen sink was blocked off by barbage¹. Lord knows why he didn't just put the Keurig in the bathroom itself. I suspect he was too lazy to clear the needed bathroom counter space. It can't have been out of any sense of hygiene.

The fire started where the extension cord running from the bathroom outlet, over the bathroom door, to the Keurig in the hall (and probably a lot of other things along with it) was damaged by repeated closure of that door. I would ask what the fuck they were thinking, but clearly they weren't.

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¹ Goddamn but they really do live like animals, don't they? The Chandlers don't so much occupy a building as infest it.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

When an outlet stops working, most normal people check the circuit breakers (or fuse box if their house is that old) before calling an electrician. Chris probably doesn't know where that is, or even what it is, and there's no way in hell the Chandlers would pay for an electrician (assuming they could even get one to show up). Chris and Barb apparently just started running increasing numbers of extension cords from a shrinking number of remaining functional outlets until, well, fire put a stop to it (and Chris, of course, blamed the Keurig).

I'd like to think Borb never taught Chris about them, because they had an inkling their son would get himself electrocuted. Of course Chris and Barb would be the type to run cords all over the house and had to learn the hard way that it wasn't a good idea.

 

[Jon Osterman]

That too. It was probably a combination of both, actually. As barbage blocked outlets, they started running extension cords from the outlets they could still reach, thereby overloading them and tripping their breakers. So eventually the only functional outlets were blocked by barbage except for the bathroom outlet which was kept clear by their need to nominally still use that room as a bathroom.

14bc sounds like a nightmare to even walk in, much less live in there. There'd be so many god damn tripping hazards I'm surprised none of them went to the hospital. Animal waste, trash, extension cords, they were just asking to fall and snap their neck. Chris must be a master hiker considering how much of a trek it'd be to move through that house

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Goddamn but they really do live like animals, don't they? The Chandlers don't so much occupy a building as infest it.

Since it's already been established that Barb's always wanted a house, and had to get married in order to get it, was the hoarding something that was already there with her? I know she couldn't hoard an apartment because she'd get kicked out quick. The sad part is that Chris inherited that behavior from her. Even if he did get 14BLC, I doubt Chris would get a cleanup going, and if anything just hoard his stuff over his mom's junk. Same thing would go if Chris got his own place.

 

[A-№1]

I'd like to think Borb never taught Chris about them, because they had an inkling their son would get himself electrocuted.

I suspect it was never necessary. The hoard didn't really explode until after Bob died.

Of course Chris and Barb would be the type to run cords all over the house and had to learn the hard way that it wasn't a good idea.

Except they didn't learn. It was all the Keurig's fault, remember?

There'd be so many god damn tripping hazards

Not to mention slipping hazards. *shudders*

Same thing would go if Chris got his own place.

Look at what they did to the rental while 14BLC was being rebuilt.

Some people should not own homes. This includes Chris and Barb.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

14bc sounds like a nightmare to even walk in, much less live in there. There'd be so many god damn tripping hazards I'm surprised none of them went to the hospital. Animal waste, trash, extension cords, they were just asking to fall and snap their neck. Chris must be a master hiker considering how much of a trek it'd be to move through that house

Chris may have some some memory on how to maneuver inside 14 BLC; it's about one of the only good things about him. Although it is fun seeing Chris lash out because he can't find something in the hoard.

The thing that gets me about the house is the smell. If one has a well ventilated house, then one may smell well. Decades of hoarding inside that house no doubt kept in all the smell; it's why people complain about Chris' hygiene; no matter how much he bathes, whatever smell is trapped inside will stick itself onto him and Barb. Plus the insects and parasites; Bob getting covered in bug bites should have served as a warning to Chris and especially Barb, and she ended up getting scabies. The house fire helped with that a bit, but then it was back to business as usual for Barb and Chris.

 

[AnOminous]

So eventually the only functional outlets were blocked by barbage except for the bathroom outlet which was kept clear by their need to nominally still use that room as a bathroom.

They didn't plug the coffeemaker into the bathroom outlet. It was powered by an extension cord run through the door from out of the room, which frayed because of the door constantly getting opened and closed, to the point it eventually set a fire. It was also probably a skinny extension cord not rated for something like a Keurig coffeemaker, which can get really hot (there is a reason cords for these kinds of thing are thick and short and grounded with three prongs). Or maybe it got frayed somewhere else or even multiple places.

This is from memory because I think Chris described the setup at some point, so even if I'm entirely accurately describing what Chris described, he's still an idiot and didn't know himself what happened.

It was the firefighters who said the fire started in the bathroom, apparently.

Also from sonichu it appears @garbageraider was ultimately the source of most of this leaked information.

 

[I swear she's 18]

I thought the reason the keurig was in the bathroom was because the kitchens on the first floor. Being the fat fuck and retard Chris I'd (probably tripped the bathrooms outlet circuit and doesn't know all you need to do is press the button) the easiest, quickest, and fastest water source is the bathroom.

 

[AnOminous]

I thought the reason the keurig was in the bathroom was because the kitchens on the first floor. Being the fat fuck and retard Chris I'd (probably tripped the bathrooms outlet circuit and doesn't know all you need to do is press the button) the easiest, quickest, and fastest water source is the bathroom.

No, it was the downstairs bathroom.

The actual docs are here and state as much: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fire-report-docs.4849/

The rest is possibly speculation by @garbageraider although I believe he had actually talked to the fire people he got the docs from.

ETA: or come to think of it, it's a split-level house, so maybe it really was "downstairs" when you walked in the front door, while the kitchen was on the other floor.

 

[troon patrol]

Don't about forget that damn greedy fireman who stole Barb's purse and the knock-off Salvador Dali! Barb was sitting on the hord like a mythical dragon guards gold, just waiting for the day someone in the Ruckersville area made their move for her precious precious trash.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

The thing that gets me about the house is the smell. If one has a well ventilated house, then one may smell well. Decades of hoarding inside that house no doubt kept in all the smell; it's why people complain about Chris' hygiene; no matter how much he bathes, whatever smell is trapped inside will stick itself onto him and Barb. Plus the insects and parasites; Bob getting covered in bug bites should have served as a warning to Chris and especially Barb, and she ended up getting scabies. The house fire helped with that a bit, but then it was back to business as usual for Barb and Chris.

Now that you mention it, I can't recall a single time that the Chandlers ever had their windows open or fans blowing air in or out of that house. I guess with having to pay for electricity costs, they could only have AC running in certain parts of the house. Virginia is hot in the summer, but it's nice in the fall, early winter and spring, but everything we've seen, all the windows have been shut up. That has to do wonder for the various molds and other things growing in there.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Now that you mention it, I can't recall a single time that the Chandlers ever had their windows open or fans blowing air in or out of that house. I guess with having to pay for electricity costs, they could only have AC running in certain parts of the house. Virginia is hot in the summer, but it's nice in the fall, early winter and spring, but everything we've seen, all the windows have been shut up. That has to do wonder for the various molds and other things growing in there.

The only time anyone has seen an AC was when Chris tweeted that he 'repaired' the downstairs AC. Chris punching holes in the wall could cause mold to get in or asbestos to come out. Either way, Chris or Barb should not be allowed to have a house. Depending on how you look at it, luckily for some people (unlucky for Chris), that he sped the process of him no longer having access to 14 BLC.

 

[A-№1]

They didn't plug the coffeemaker into the bathroom outlet.

I used to think the Keurig was in the downstairs bathroom¹ for easy access to the sink, but someone (I wish I could remember who) corrected me that it was actually on a table in the downstairs hallway immediately outside the bathroom². Since the "heavy duty" extension cord was going through the bathroom doorway (over the door), this means power had to have been coming from the bathroom to the hallway. It's possible Chris might have run the cord into the bathroom and then back out to the Keurig, but that seems a stretch, even for him.

From the CWCki³:
Chris was using an extension cord in the bathroom to plug in a Keurig coffee maker located in the hallway. The cord was looped over the top of the door, and the friction caused by the motion of the door had abraded the cord, starting the fire. Chris claimed that the brewer was off when the fire started, although he admitted that it wasn't unplugged. Why the Chandlers had an extension cord running out of the bathroom to plug in a coffee maker is anyone's guess, but it probably has something to do with Barb's hoarding.

Split level houses of 14BLC's floorplan and age generally serve both upstairs and downstairs bathroom outlets with a single 20 amp circuit instead of individual common 15 amp circuits to each. This may help explain why the bathroom outlet was one of the last ones working in the house. They may have also been protected with GFCI outlets which would have tripped before the main circuit breaker, requiring Chris to merely push a button to reset the outlet instead of crawling through the hoard to the circuit panel⁴, further helping these outlets to continue working when all others were either out or blocked by barbage.

Chris or Barb should not be allowed to have a house.

Allowed by who?

Generally people like Chris and Barb are prevented from becoming homeowners by their own financial incompetence. Barb only managed it by an extremely lucky, and undeserved, marriage.

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¹ Because Chris is gross enough to have a coffee maker in a bathroom.
² Confirmed on the CWCki, which is down right now thanks to butthurt trannies.
³ Courtesy of the Wayback Machine.
⁴ Assuming he even knew where, and what, the circuit panel was.

 

[AnOminous]

Since the "heavy duty" extension cord was going through the bathroom doorway (over the door), this means power had to have been coming from the bathroom to the hallway.

Unless the house was collapsing to the point the door physically moved, I don't see how even a loose door fitting could allow a "heavy duty" extension cord to fit through over the door. I'd bet it was an ungrounded two prong skinny extension cord that would barely fit in the gap and fray.

 

[A-№1]

Unless the house was collapsing to the point the door physically moved, I don't see how even a loose door fitting could allow a "heavy duty" extension cord to fit through over the door.

Well that's the point: it didn't fit. But that didn't stop Chris from forcing the door closed anyways, so eventually the cord's insulation gave up trying.

I'd bet it was an ungrounded two prong skinny extension cord that would barely fit in the gap and fray.

It was probably a grounded three prong cord because I believe the Keurig uses a grounded plug, and Chris wouldn't bother (or know how) to use an adapter. I expect it was the cheapest 18/3 lamp cord available (pic related). It was only a flat cord because that's what happens to be cheapest at Home Depot, and was probably the first in a chain of undersized cords running throughout the house.

Chris called it "heavy duty" because of course he would. He doesn't know what that actually means. Hell, he doesn't even know what "heavy" actually means. How much did Patty's dog house weigh again?

I still don't know why they ran the cord over the door instead of through the gap under it. I mean you still shouldn't do that, but it's better than running the cord between the door and the jamb where it's guaranteed to be chewed up. Also running the cord over the door seems like more work. Maybe the floor under the door was blocked by barbage he couldn't be bothered to move?