#DropKiwiFarms

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Journos smell clicks, proceed to make trashy articles about a subject they don't know anything about just for the clicks. This is the state of modern journalism.
Having a troon lead the campaign = bonus social justice points for the journos.

When the next Kardashian scoop drops they'll conveniently forget about KF. The troon gang will be left to screech alone on twitter as before.
 
Who fucken knows? If this were Kotaku or something, yeah, I'd tell them to kick rocks.

My rationale is that, at the very least, he could hold up receipts as to how they covered things. My (naive) belief is that someone, somewhere will eventually find this compelling enough to do an actual story (and not the sensationalist tripe that's been kicked around), but realistically, the odds are that no one is going to bother.

Which is why I said it's extra work that Null probably doesn't wanna deal with. I can respect that. Jumping through a ton of hoops with a small chance at any sort of payoff (that would be minimal) isn't worth from an effort/bullshit perspective and he could spend that time laughing at Sorrenti, touching grass, playing a video game, literally anything else.
the press are scum
 
People blame the farms for causing these people's deaths, under the premise that our interest in them made them deranged and drove them to suicide.

Yet they can't fathom the simpler explanation: These people's deranged behavior attracts our attention and we gossip amongst ourselves, and their suicide was going to happen whether we gossiped or not.

If someone is juggling chainsaws and people around him are recording the spectacle, then he gets killed by one chainsaw slicing him in half do you blame the idiot that juggled the chainsaws or the people recording?
 
This anti-cloudflare crusade is already losing traction like Keffals' weird prostate-hole neo-vagina.
Also the idea of trying to get people to protest cloudflare is just hilarious

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Journos smell clicks, proceed to make trashy articles about a subject they don't know anything about just for the clicks. This is the state of modern journalism.
Having a troon lead the campaign = bonus social justice points for the journos.

When the next Kardashian scoop drops they'll conveniently forget about KF. The troon gang will be left to screech alone on twitter as before.
Agreed. Everyone forgot Byuu after a few months, they just remembered again now because the troon wars resumed.
 
Another one bites the dust? Trains dropping like sheep to the rhythm of the bird grift

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That's a funny way of saying 'My Twitter and Discord degenerate pals'

Also isn't this the equivalent of saying I have a friend who died driving a Tesla? My dad works for Nintendo, or, someone I know overdosed? See anyone can make things up.
 
Who fucken knows? If this were Kotaku or something, yeah, I'd tell them to kick rocks.

My rationale is that, at the very least, he could hold up receipts as to how they covered things. My (naive) belief is that someone, somewhere will eventually find this compelling enough to do an actual story (and not the sensationalist tripe that's been kicked around), but realistically, the odds are that no one is going to bother.

Which is why I said it's extra work that Null probably doesn't wanna deal with. I can respect that. Jumping through a ton of hoops with a small chance at any sort of payoff (that would be minimal) isn't worth from an effort/bullshit perspective and he could spend that time laughing at Sorrenti, touching grass, playing a video game, literally anything else.
"Our statement is the complete OP found at [links to Keffals and this thread]

PS: journos are scum"

He did include a link to one of the threads in one of the emails. IMO (which is worth exactly one negative penny and should not be relied on) that's the way to go. If any journalist really is interested in our viewpoint ( :optimistic: :optimistic: :optimistic: X infinity) the link is right there. People are too lazy to Google, but some people will visit a link and see what there is to see.

But really, his approach is fine too. I'm sure he really cares what a random 2021 account has to say.
 
'what's coming' is apparently an unprecedented number of active users. Thanks!
What always tickles me is how Kiwis are mischaracterized as, to the last man, unwashed, basement-dwelling Nazis as a way to distract from the staggering amount of archived primary sources of damning information that can be found here.

Has anyone else ever known a narcissist and witnessed them sanitizing their life as a way to find new victims? If you happen to have inconvenient information about a narcissist’s past behavior, they will often obsess over you and attempt to preemptively discredit you to any potential future victims long after you have any remaining energy for them. Think of a man who rants on and on about his “crazy” ex-wives or girlfriends, when in reality he’s a violent abuser with multiple restraining orders. Keffals and other participants in this effort are acting exactly like that abuser, trying to discredit and silence anyone who might have any inconvenient receipts on their degeneracy.

That’s why they freak out and make accusations of fraternization with the enemy if they are confronted by evidence of their distasteful, immoral, or even illegal behavior. You aren’t supposed to KNOW how terribly they have behaved and if you DO know, you must have gained that information from the eeeevil Kiwis and therefore you’re an evil, basement-dwelling Nazi and nothing you say can have any credence whatsoever. It’s classical DARVO in action, and any journalists participating in it should rightfully expect to be called scum.

Saying mean words on the internet isn’t the problem. Meticulously documenting bad behavior is the problem. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. I hope this site and its users continue to document and compile all this bad behavior for many many years to come, in spite of the many detractors. It is a worthy endeavor. Plus I find it super hilarious so thx.
 
CBS has noticed.

Despite growing pressure to cut ties with Kiwi Farms, an online forum that has become infamous for spreading hate and fueling harassment, the internet services company Cloudflare suggested in a statement Wednesday that it does not plan to drop the website as a customer.

"Terminating security services for content that our team personally feels is disgusting and immoral would be the popular choice," said Cloudflare, in a blog post authored by CEO Matthew Prince and global public policy chief Alissa Starzak that does not mention Kiwi Farms by name. "But, in the long term, such choices make it more difficult to protect content that supports oppressed and marginalized voices against attacks."

Cloudflare offers a range of services to digital clients, from cyber security to web hosting. The company made headlines in 2019 after publicly pulling support for the message board 8chan, a site known for harboring violent hate speech, where the gunman who killed 23 people at a Walmart in El Paso posted his manifesto, causing it to temporarily shut down. Cloudflare had earlier terminated its services to the extremist site Daily Stormer.

The company has faced criticism recently for providing security services to Kiwi Farms, whose users frequently dox and harass transgender people and where a campaign that specifically targeted a popular trans Twitch streamer pushed her into hiding. The streamer and activist, Clara Sorrenti, known as Keffals on social media, detailed in videos her experiences being doxed — when someone's private information is published online, typically in cyberbullying and cyberattack scenarios — and swatted, a cybercrime that aims to send armed emergency personnel to a victim's residence after a hoax 911 call.

Sorrenti is now leading calls for Cloudflare to end its ongoing business relationship with Kiwi Farms, and receiving broad support from internet users as well as LGBTQ+ and women's rights organizations. The Anti-Defamation League has also called for Cloudflare to drop Kiwi Farms, calling it "an extremist-friendly forum that has been the breeding ground for countless harassment campaigns, including this recent brutal campaign of swatting, doxing and hacking" in a tweet last week.

Although Cloudflare did not reference Kiwi Farms by name in its Wednesday blog post, called "Cloudflare's abuse & policies approach," the company acknowledged that the statement came in response to "questions that have arisen" about how it handles abuse when issues arise that are related to its products and services.

The company explained that content shared on sites that it hosts is subject to removal if it violates Cloudflare's policies against content that is "illegal, harmful, or violates the rights of others, including content that discloses sensitive personal information, incites or exploits violence against people or animals, or seeks to defraud the public." But most of its customers only use Cloudflare's security services and do not face the same content restrictions. Cloudflare confirmed that it does not host the Kiwi Farms website in comments to CBS News.

"The policies we built reflect ideas and recommendations from human rights experts, activists, academics, and regulators," the statement read. "Our guiding principles require abuse policies to be specific to the service being used. This is to ensure that any actions we take both reflect the ability to address the harm and minimize unintended consequences."

Defending its argument against terminating security services to websites whose content Cloudflare says it "[finds] reprehensible," the company said that doing so could set a dangerous precedent about speech censorship and prompt the kind of backlash it received after canceling services to the Daily Stormer and 8chan.

"Some argue that we should terminate these services to content we find reprehensible so that others can launch attacks to knock it offline. That is the equivalent argument in the physical world that the fire department shouldn't respond to fires in the homes of people who do not possess sufficient moral character," Cloudflare said. "Both in the physical world and online, that is a dangerous precedent, and one that is over the long term most likely to disproportionately harm vulnerable and marginalized communities."

Cloudflare said responses it received after dropping the Daily Stormer and 8chan were "deeply troubling," and recalled "a dramatic increase in authoritarian regimes attempting to have us terminate security services for human rights organizations — often citing the language from our own justification back to us."

"Since those decisions, we have had significant discussions with policy makers worldwide," the statement continued. "From those discussions we concluded that the power to terminate security services for the sites was not a power Cloudflare should hold."
Hey, at least they called us merely a "controversial website" and didn't blame us for the An Heroes.
 
Like I said, call me naive.
The other issue is there is zero incentive for any journalist to give the farms a fair shake. Your scumfuck colleagues will ostracize you for being sympathetic to a "stalking and harassment site", and even journos who portray themselves as free speech advocates that don't care about the consensus, like Greenwald and Taibbi, have done some dumb, embarrassing shit in the past they'd probably rather not have permanently on the Internet. Principles go out the window when one side will without hesitation document you acting like a horny weirdo for the public to see.
 
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