Disaster Under Pressure, Security Firm Cloudflare drops Kiwi Farms Website - Noted LoTT doxer Taylor Lorenz weigh ins

SAN FRANCISCO — Reversing course under growing public pressure, major tech security company Cloudflare announced Saturday that it will stop protecting the Kiwi Farms website, best known as a place for stalkers to organize hacks, online campaigns and real-world harassment.
Cloudfare chief executive Matthew Prince, who this past week published a lengthy blog post justifying the company’s services defending Kiwi Farms, told The Washington Post he changed his mind not because of the pressure but a surge in credible violent threats stemming from the site.
“As Kiwi Farms has felt more threatened, they have reacted by being more threatening,” Prince said. “We think there is an imminent danger, and the pace at which law enforcement is able to respond to those threats we don’t think is fast enough to keep up.”
Prince said contributors to the forum were posting home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.
Kiwi Farms launched in 2013 and quickly grew into a popular internet forum for online harassment campaigns. At least three suicides have been tied to harassment stemming from the Kiwi Farms community, and many on the forum consider their goal to drive their targets to suicide. Members of the LGBTQ community and women are frequent targets.
Cloudflare has faced broad backlash in the past week as a campaign for it to drop the service gained steam and widened to pressure paying customers to drop Cloudflare if it held firm.
Two weeks ago, Prince said the company stopped selling Kiwi Farms a $20 per month service to customize error messages shown to web users when its pages wouldn’t load. On Saturday, it withdrew the remaining free services, which fend off denial-of-service attacks and speed content delivery by making copies of the site in many locations.
Clara Sorrenti, a trans Canadian Twitch streamer known online as Keffals, launched the #DropKiwiFarms campaign after being targeted by Kiwi Farms posters for over half a year.
Forum users had repeatedly doxed Sorrenti and her family, posting addresses and more, and last month they called in false crime reports to draw police to her home. Sorrenti fled to Northern Ireland late last month, and within 48 hours users of the forum had pinpointed her location and she began receiving threats.
On Saturday, she spoke with The Post just minutes after police had arrived at her residence after another swatting attempt.
“There are countless people suffering because of this website,” Sorrenti said. “Kiwi Farms isn’t about free speech, it’s about hate speech. The majority of the content on the site is threads used for targeted harassment against political targets.”
Sorrenti’s campaign against Cloudflare went viral in the past several days, with organizations and influencers joining in the call to ban Kiwi Farms from Cloudflare’s service. The Anti-Defamation League called Kiwi Farms an “extremist-friendly forum that has been the breeding ground for countless harassment campaigns.”
In the interview, Prince said he was uncomfortable dropping Kiwi Farms despite its content and would have preferred a court order.
But he said it was an easier call than his previous decisions to drop neo-Nazi site the Daily Stormer and the 8chan website because those two were not hotbeds for specific violent plots.
Lorenz reported from Los Angeles.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.

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[Kiwisee]

Is Law & Order SVU still on the air? If so I can damn near guarantee those creatively bankrupt writers going to write an episode about this mess... Who should play null?

Ryan Reynolds should

 

[SanicBlackMagic]

Why doesn't cloudflare drop twitter? There's members of the Taliban on there, Isis propaganda spread through Twitter, the leader of Iran uttered death threats against Mr. Rushdi, which lead to him being attacked. Why is kiwifarms responsible for whatever this is, while twitter isn't?

Shekels, thats why. You should know this, goyim.

 

[HackerX]

How surreal is it that the Internet has already peaked and is now on a downward trajectory. This took less than 30 years once it began mass adoption.

The zoomers and normies who really didn't start using it until myspace/FB/etc., can't even comprehend what Web 1.0 represented. Imagine almost EVERY site being a community (at some level) similar to KF. Corporate pandering was non-existent and each site had it's own unique design. The other day, when Null said regarding privacy "You have a right to anonymity and you are responsible for protecting your anonymity" that was a very Web 1.0 way of thinking. Especially as kid, you were told that the random dude in the AOL chat room was probably going to kidnap you, so don't give him your info.

Then Web 2.0 came...I used to do a slight eyeroll when Null mentioned it was transforming into little i internet. I don't anymore. At this point, the internet is just another tool to keep us in our place and make sure we have the same "good goy approved" opinions.

The white pill aspect of this is, that as much I enjoy the web, I acknowledge that it isn't real life. I am more than willing to cut this technology out of my life if it means happiness or freedom. The other side can't.

 

[keter+dono]

He's gonna monitor other sites for threats, right?


Right?!

Activists backing keffals don't understand how this shit is going to backfire hard. Cloudflare are naive fools to think that this wont be taken as case law. no wonder the press jumped into this, despite them seeing merit to how bad keffals is, this is a trojan attack to justify feds monitoring all the sites. And the way cloudflare donates to the govt, bs that the govt wont use this to target specific sites.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Troons love corporate censorship. They literally can't live without it.

It's because reality is in direct contradiction to what they wish they were. They want the corpos to make it so reality conforms to their world view.

 

[gata]

this is a trojan attack to justify feds monitoring all the sites. And the way cloudflare donates to the govt, bs that the govt wont use this to target specific sites.

They are simultaneously against the feds and government yet also kiss the feet of feds and government...
Oh well, these useful idiots are the first to be facing the wall when glowies get to them.

 

[keter+dono]

This was posted at 6:18pm ET, within minutes of the site going down (anyone know the exact time?). Lorenz tweeted it at 6:21pm, Null didn't even post his comment until 6:22pm.

Lorenz/the Post was definitely tipped off before this happened, they had the article already prepared

Update: Cloudflare CEO tweeted out the announcement at 6:15pm. telegram users started asking what happened at 6:16pm. so confirmed that the article came out within 3 mins of the site being down.

Feds def were involved! as i said, its a trojan move. keffals and co are the distraction, the upper guys are using the cloud of dust to tighten surviellance, because now, every sight using cloudflare must be aware that they are not only being monitored, but feds now have a backdoor and will shut it down the moment they decide to against anyone.
it will be interesting to see all these activists cry when govt structures flip to red and they turn these tactics on them, will realization hit them that a canadian may have helped screw them while they will not directly feel the consequences?

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

So this autist claimed he got kiwfarms taken down. Sounds like an autist. Not sure I trust his claims.

SJC-2 Kiwi farms-0

https://www.donationalerts.com/r/sjc_https://www.donationalerts.com/r/sjc_

www.youtube.com

But this explains his livestream title of "SJC-2 Kiwi farms-0"

Edit: How do you download a youtube livestream?

I tried downloading it but only got the latter two hours, I'm trying another method. A lot of it is dead air with this tweaker showing his hairy armpits, I can smell the fucker through the screen.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

How surreal is it that the Internet has already peaked and is now on a downward trajectory. This took less than 30 years once it began mass adoption.

The zoomers and normies who really didn't start using it until myspace/FB/etc., can't even comprehend what Web 1.0 represented. Imagine almost EVERY site being a community (at some level) similar to KF. Corporate pandering was non-existent and each site had it's own unique design. The other day, when Null said regarding privacy "You have a right to anonymity and you are responsible for protecting your anonymity" that was a very Web 1.0 way of thinking. Especially as kid, you were told that the random dude in the AOL chat room was probably going to kidnap you, so don't give him your info.

Then Web 2.0 came...I used to do a slight eyeroll when Null mentioned it was transforming into little i internet. I don't anymore. At this point, the internet is just another tool to keep us in our place and make sure we have the same "good goy approved" opinions.

The white pill aspect of this is, that as much I enjoy the web, I acknowledge that it isn't real life. I am more than willing to cut this technology out of my life if it means happiness or freedom. The other side can't.

The powers that be decided to gradually strip away the internet from us once they realized the implications of Web 2.0. Even just 6-7 years ago, I remember posting hungover anti-troon/anti-refugee rants on Facebook which were like posts here sans racial slurs and no one would give a fuck (except occasional arguments with someone on my friends list). In that era, there were tons of subreddits, faggy as I thought them, that would do exactly what Kiwifarms does--laugh at idiots, dox them, etc. Even shitty forums infamous for censorship like Gamefaqs would let you discuss most things. Twitter was of course was the free speech wing of the free speech party. Most of the internet was "Kiwifarms, but you can't say nigger too much" as little as 7-8 years ago.

Nowadays I can't even use my Facebook account now since these posts are autoflagged and give me 30 day bans whenever I log in. Everywhere on the internet is a dystopian hellhole where one false step is at best a guaranteed suspension, at worst license for lunatics to harass you and everyone remotely related to you. The Myspace/AOL chatroom pedos they warned us about are now groomers peddling HRT such as Keffals who are lionized by society instead of being told to have a seat over there.

It's not surprising this all started in 2016, because a bunch of feds bought the idea Trump got elected because of the internet, and they sent word to all their Big Tech allies about what had to be done. It's really horrifying that by the time I'm 40 years old the internet will have completed it's transformation into a corporate hellhole that exists solely for you to market products you consoom to other people, push government propaganda, and gather information on you for megacorporations. That's where we're going FAST.

 

[PHILLIP BANKS]

At least we got bronze. All the faggots after us get nothing.

Keffals celebrating it....and it makes me sed

 

[Chiri]

Read: https://web.archive.org/web/2020100...opic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

Fucking hell, what a read. It's so frustrating that we live in a world where bringing up any of these points and being taken seriously is almost impossible.

 

[Vesperus]

Keffals celebrating it....and it makes me sed

Keffels is celebrating us being down, but we are not.
Keffals is also celebrating being a woman, but he is not.

Fucking pottery.

 

[keter+dono]

Cloudflares clearly lawyer written statement may also have run afoul of the 2017 US Supreme Court Case, Matal v. Tam. That was the big one that says that hate speech is free speech. It's why Matthew Princes' lawyers spent so much time writing about an impending emergency. All that crap about horrific content was actionable on the face without it.

Yet in this same statement they also say law enforcement was not taking it seriously so they needed to take unilateral action. And they said Keffals pressure campaign was part of the motivation for their unilateral action.

Get a lawyer @Null . These fucktards have written a full blown cause of action in public. But for the love of christ don't ask nick rekieta for a recommendation. Nick isn't a bad dude, but this is not his area of expertise.

You need a lawyer familiar with cases involving the Western Union telegraph company, civil rights, corporate law and has the right to practice in the relevant jurisdiction. Hopefully you can find such a white elephant. If not...and it pains me, call Robert Barnes. He's represented you already, he's done cases like this, and this situation is Crack Cocaine for him.

problem is that for this case, you need a lawyer you know what their principles are. I trust Nick and barnes over any rando that will recieve a call the night before, quick cash transfer, and scuttle the whole trial like the alex jones lawyer.

 

[Get Fisted]

We are in Religious Bear country now, comrads. I'm glad to be with you all again. The amount of absolutely stunning horseshit to come out of this entire debacle just goes to show that the old adage "Don't put anything on the internet you don't want to stay there," remains true. Cloudflare failed like Starscream and I hope that they realize the graveness of their mistake when everyone who screeched and BAWWWWWWWW'd at them comes back around for their heads now that they know that there isn't a spine holding them up. Kowtowing to people screeching on the internet is an awful idea, I think everyone should know this by now, but it bears repeating.

 

[CowPox]

What was the "emanate threat to life" these faggots cited as tne straw that broke the trannies back? Was there one even?

 

[Otterly]

The centralisation of power is always a mistake. Cloud flare is too big. Google is too big. They’re all too big. We need smaller providers and lots of them and we need methods of making the internet more robust. Right now the place is a monoculture and it’s weak structurally. It needs to be more like a good web than a food chain, if we are going for biology metaphors.
The way these men manage to make big tech bend to them, to cover up what appear to be actual crimes (supplying drugs to minors and grooming) is sinister.
We need to rebuild the web, payment providers, power etc so that it’s uncensorable and unable to be throttled at one point.

 

[Incandenzer]

He was probably ordered to make that statement and decision by the board. So what. He cucked out rather then resigning. Now the Twitter mob wants him to resign anyway because he is insufficiently pure. Bet your ass the board will behead him now as a ritual sacrifice.

He could have gone out a hero. Now he goes out a servile sacrificial lamb. Shameful.

Prince is a pathetic attention seeking narcissist. Imagine having a fraction of his wealth and spending as much time as he appears to spend making inane tweets and taking literally every opportunity to frame decisions that fly in the face of everything you profess to promote at your company as anything but the result of standard risk assessment. The twitter mob will lose interest in 48 hours maximum and the board probably told him to shut his fucking mouth in the future and never release another "derr we are a public utility" statement again. silver lining i guess is that he will never be able to show his face at libertarian circle jerk panels again. I hope he gets stomach cancer and if he has kids, that they troon out and publicly tweet about every time they have to dilate their am hole.

 

[Alba gu brath]

So, just wondering now, is Hitler Santa now not allowed, y'know, because Russia and all? Oh and do we need to call the war the verreh special operation? I know this is more the article discussion, but no point spamming up other threads with questions of these sorts.

 

[Incandenzer]

can we get a campaign going to get cloudflare to drop discord? rhater than framing it as a "if kiwi farms goes, so shall discord,!!" how about we compile all of the many chat logs promoting grooming, pedophilia, and othe illegal activities and start phase 2 of the #cloudflareaccountability or perhaps a hashtag that has a better ring to it

 

[Otterly]

How come trannies have this much fucking say in society?

. In the past, you got power through taking it. The biggest strongest man won, and everyone else followed him or they challenged him for the power. There’s a positive selection happening here, because the big strong men tend to be decent physical specimens and the societies they built tended to be functional. Society valued strength mentally and physically.
The introduction of banking and then the industrial revolution changed this. Power started to be exerted in ways other than the physical. Still backed up by physical violence of course but not just violence. Money became the way to exert power. This then results in people who ARENT big and strong being in positions of power. Now your physically weaker are in power and they wield power differently.
Technology takes this even further. Now the weakest söy gremlin can wield huge power but he wields it in a feminine way not a masculine one. A strong man rules through power but a weak man rules through deviousness, cancellation. It’s like mean girls on steroids.
What I’m saying is we’ve gone from Marcus Aurelius to troonville becasue we’ve stopped letting real men be In charge and allowed our worst specimens to hold the reins of power. They know they’d be gone in a second in any kind of shit hitting the fan situation so they rule by psychological control and they’re all gigantic faggots. They’re specimens who would have not survived in past times.
This is how the west falls. Only masculine power modes (ie the shit hitting the fan) will stop it becasue the feminine power mode can be stopped only by mass violence (note to mods, feds and cloudflare, this is a philosophical musing and not a call to violent against anyone.)
If the pendulum swings back before the surveillance stuff is locked in we have a chance. Past that, it’s going to take something horrendous to sort us out. Rolling for a second carrington event…