#DropKiwiFarms

[UmQasaan]

Russians have no balls. wtf I love Ukraine now

DDoSguard started in YouCrane and they both have no balls because they keep cutting each others off when they get captured

 

[neger psykolog]

Great work #DropKiwiFarms

Now the site is no longer indexed on the clearnet (:

All the evil, cunning swatting and murder plans you all said were happening here, supposedly wide out in the open this entire time, can now happen under the cover of darkness.

 

[Divine right to rule]

I am starting to think that everyone in the tech industry is either evil themselves or so weak that they immediately give in as soon as evil exerts moral pressure on them

 

[Silhouette]

Yea so they're not content on stopping with kiwifarms. Prince can go fuck himself and reap what he sews, I hope this situation fucks him hard (I doubt it, they'll likely not be bothered by this in a month).

Pulling the ripcord perilously close to impact​

Cloudflare claims that its mission is to "build a better Internet." Yet, its actions to protect the neo-Nazi site Kiwi Farms for almost a decade have ensured a hostile internet for members of many marginalized groups. Cloudflare's content policy and its reporting policies are ineffective and potentially even harmful. For the past decade, Cloudflare's customers have indirectly supported the harm that Cloudflare's hateful clients perpetuate.

Transgender people have pressed Cloudflare for years on this matter. All of these efforts were met with silence. However, the most recent attempt with Clara "Keffals" Sorrenti's #DropKiwifarms campaign has unfolded differently. After weeks of pressure, Cloudflare published a public explanation for maintaining access to Kiwi Farms on August 31st, 2022. But these justifications proved to be nothing more than a smokescreen for potentially deadly outcomes.

Indeed, just three days later on September 3, 2022, Cloudflare abruptly took the site down and admitted that it had observed not just "abhorrent", but "potential criminal acts and imminent threats to human life" that it stated were no longer an acceptable risk. Transgender people should not have to be the canaries in the coalmine for what is and is not acceptable risk in the eyes of a corporation led by cisgender people. We should be consulted from the beginning, rather than cut out of the loop. Additionally, involving law enforcement (who have historically ignored violence against us or perpetuated it themselves) does not absolve Cloudflare of a responsibility to warn us directly and protect us.

Three transgender people have died from sustained harassment campaigns enacted by Kiwi Farms. Countless unknown others may have silently taken their lives after being unable to find work or support due to Kiwi Farms. We have been warning Cloudflare for years that Kiwi Farms intentionally causes serious emotional distress, calls in false police reports to incite SWATting, and openly clamours for the murder of transgender people.

I welcome Cloudflare's action to deplatform Kiwi Farms, but it comes years too late to save any of the countless victims. In fact, Cloudflare has explicitly reaffirmed their earlier statement that they intend to protect similar hate sites that have the self-restraint to stay just shy of the Brandenburg line of imminent threat. Cloudflare has claimed:

1. That providing their anti-denial of service and caching capabilities to all is necessary to protect minorities against authoritarian censorship.
2. That they believe that they can "offset" any harms caused by hateful customers with donations to charities that support the targets of those hateful customers.
3. That they are a responsible service provider because they have a strong enforcement policy against content that they host rather than protect, proxy, or cache.

None of these claims hold up under scrutiny. Cloudflare must take stronger responsibility for what they enable going forward, rather than continuing to avoid accountability.

"Equal service" does not create equality of outcomes.​

Cloudflare claims they are a neutral service provider that provides equal protection to everyone. For instance, they say that I, as a trans person, have a right to free Cloudflare services and sites like Kiwi Farms have a right to Cloudflare services, too. However "equal" in this instance does not create equity of outcomes—because not all speech is equal. Speech that is just magnifying or creating new online harassment doesn't facilitate the expression of free speech. Instead, it intimidates marginalised people from having a voice. If Cloudflare is going to protect speech that incites violence toward specific named targets, no amount of amplification of speech by those targets or donations to charities can "offset" the harm.

Furthermore, Cloudflare has already chosen not to protect sex workers, when it abruptly took down Switter, the Mastodon for sex workers. Expecting us to defend Cloudflares stance on Kiwi Farms because it might help sex workers or other hypothetical future groups targeted by authoritarian idealogues is neither fair nor just, and does nothing for free speech.

There is nothing stopping Cloudflare from having a simple policy of not doing business with organisations who appear on the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of hate groups. Kiwi Farms is on that list.

What could Cloudflare do differently? If Cloudflare says that it wants to create a better internet, how could Cloudflare actually create a better internet? What works for actually promoting access to speech, for everyone, and not just for those who already hold the most structural power?

Improving access to speech and the ability of people like myself in marginalised communities to speak up has to start with physical safety for us. If it is not safe to speak in the first place, then I'm not going to be worried about denial of service attacks—I'm just worried about whether or not I'm going to become the target of violence or even murdered for my existence.

Hate offsets don't work.​

Cloudflare states it makes donations toward appropriate charities of any revenue received from customers that use its services to incite hatred. This is fallacious in several ways:

First, and foremost, harms cannot simply be offset by financial contributions. This claim is essentially stating they can pay an amount of money (that they determine) in order for Kiwi Farms to have the right to harm people. Not only is this an admission of the harm that is caused, it is claiming that ethics is only a matter of money and offsets.

Second, Cloudflare claims the harm is proportional to the revenue received from the customers in question. For instance, Kiwi Farms' sole purpose is to terrorise marginalized people, yet they paid almost nothing ($20/month) for Cloudflare's DDoS protection and custom error page service. As has been documented in numerous articles and reports, Kiwi Farms tears apart the lives of individuals, as well as the transgender and neurodivergent communities as a whole. They pick apart every aspect of their victims' lives and try to get everyone to dissociate themselves from victims. This makes it harder for people to offer or seek out support for fear of becoming the next victim, or for fear of Kiwi Farms targeting people they become close to.

Some harms simply cannot be undone. The harassment and bullying people have endured has led to suicide. No donation to charity can possibly make restitution for the taking of a life. Claiming that it does is unethical.

No one is left to take responsibility if Cloudflare won't.​

Cloudflare's Acceptable Use Policy for its hosting services states: "We may remove or disable access to content that we believe [...] Is otherwise illegal, harmful, or violates the rights of others, including content that discloses sensitive personal information, incites or exploits violence against people or animals, or seeks to defraud the public."

Why is it that such content is unacceptable when hosted directly on Cloudflare's own servers, but is something they vehemently defend when they can pass off responsibility onto someone else? If Cloudflare isn't going to stand by its own policies as written, they should change the verbiage; because it's clear as day that doxxing, causing harm, and violating the rights of others is not supported by their terms of service, yet they insist on inherently supporting this content by not removing it.

Currently, Cloudflare's abuse reporting procedure for cached content simply forwards the content of the report (whether for illegal content, violence, etc.) to the backend. Only very recently has the option to remove contact information been added. Cloudflare doesn't appear to act upon these reports internally, which means if someone is being targeted by Kiwi Farms and they report it, details on what material they found to violate their safety or privacy go straight to the Kiwi Farms owner.

Cloudflare simply washes their hands of any further damage and harassment that could, and mostly likely will, occur. In doing so, Cloudflare has abdicated responsibility for policing content to the very people who are perpetuating harm on marginalised communities.

Conclusion​

Cloudflare has been acting against the interests of its paying customers and shareholders by subsidizing neo-Nazi hate groups in their violent campaigns. Cloudflare's management and board of directors have a fiduciary duty to protect shareholder interests, not to defend the founder's amoral stances on "freedom of expression." While trans people may be marginally safer today following this one-time policy exception, I worry about Cloudflare's possible future complicity in the genocide of another minority group, when it refuses to pull the plug on yet another hateful site.

While Cloudflare eventually caved to the public pressure and risk of damage to their reputation from a terrorist incident being attributable to them; they've made clear that they intend to enable those who facilitate terrorism. Cloudflare's shareholders, employees, and users should be appalled at the deadly outcomes their leadership has knowingly enabled.

How many lives is an acceptable price for one man's ideology?

Thus, I respectfully dissent from Cloudflare's policies and discourage others from using its services.

Liz Fong-Jones, #DropKiwifarms

 

[neger psykolog]

I am starting to think that everyone in the tech industry is either evil themselves or so weak that they immediately give in as soon as evil exerts moral pressure on them

I am starting to think they're fucking retarded. They just turned a public, out in the open gossip forum into an unindexed "darknet" forum.

 

[Rommelbutt]

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It's funny when you think of that Null's last name was Potter and Metokur called Null the Harry Potter of this drama. Null is Harry Potter and Keffals is Voldemort. You guys know how the movies end.

 

[breadandcircuses]

If they're winning, why are we still posting?

 

[D.Va]

Three transgender people have died from sustained harassment campaigns enacted by Kiwi Farms.

lmao Mrs. Terryberry is just a honorary trans person now.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

god why is everyone such a pussy

 

[Silhouette]

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Simply writing about Kiwi Farms was enough to attract the attention of its users, and that attention was scary enough to dissuade reporters from covering the site. A French-language article on Vice from 2020 describes their methods in depth. To summarize: Potential targets were posted about by individual users. The site’s users would decide as a group on whom to focus for harassment. This harassment included online death threats, rape threats, and name-calling; harassment via email and text messages; and aggressive doxxing. Family members of targets received texts and emails, either harassing them too or falsely accusing their loved ones of criminal behavior. Bosses and co-workers were contacted with similar lies, resulting in job loss for some of their targets, as Vice reported. Users also made false police reports, recruiting police guns into their campaigns of terror in the practice known as swatting. Some targets’ bank accounts were drained with fraudulent purchases, and on and on. Few people would knowingly risk such potentially ruinous consequences, and so journalists stayed quiet. This helped suppress public knowledge of the site and its tactics, making it easier for Kiwi Farms users to drive the people they decided did not deserve a voice into hiding and, in a few cases, to suicide, as reported by Vice and the Daily Beast (in the latter case, Kiwi Farms wasn’t named to avoid giving it publicity).

I hate how openly they can lie about this place.

 

[Simon]

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It's funny when you think of that Null's last name was Potter and Metokur called Null the Harry Potter of this drama. Null is Harry Potter and Keffals is Voldemort. You guys know how the movies end.

They're so fucking dramatic. How is a site that does nothing illegal, the 'Voldemort' of anti-trans websites? The tranny bits are only a small portion of what is discussed here. There are sites that host CP, white supremacy, actual bodily threats to people, that still exist.

 

[neger psykolog]

Great work #DropKiwiFarms

Now the site is no longer indexed on the clearnet (:

All the evil, cunning swatting and murder plans you all said were happening here, supposedly wide out in the open this entire time, can now happen under the cover of darkness.

Speaking of other consequences, I'm guessing some decent number of lolcows have survived financially indirectly due to their fanbase/hatebases on the farms for a long period of time. Given we're all in for a rough economic patch quite soon, what will the consequences of this be:

http://uquusqsaaad66cvub4473csdu4uu7ahxou3zqc35fpw5d4ificedzyqd.onion/threads/how-many-lolcows-are-now-going-to-become-financially-destitute.129031/

 

[Nick Gars]

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It's funny when you think of that Null's last name was Potter and Metokur called Null the Harry Potter of this drama. Null is Harry Potter and Keffals is Voldemort. You guys know how the movies end.

This is how you can tell that these people live in a fucking fantasy. Everything has to be viewed through the lens of "consoomerism", and they can't even stick by their principles and move on from Harry Fucking Potter after they've disavowed it for the author having "icky opinions".

Petulant children with no values living a mass delusion.
I'm not a religious man, but I have to stop and question if these people even have souls, a spark of actual life, or if they're literal flesh puppets put here to remind us we're already living in Hell.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

This is why I am never voting for a leftie again. It's people like Keffals who made me want to roll back my own civil rights because they were gotten through lies and manipulation, therefore unearned and tainted. I still remember when it was the right that suppressed freedom of expression, but once they got hold of the whip, all the leftists do is beat the shit out of everyone all the time. It will be a long, painful spiral into the total destruction of society, but in the end I hope that last otherkin transamputee enjoys the lonely view onto their sea of death.

I wonder if we could back up onto Usenet, if it's still around. Back in the day that place used to be a bunch of unfiltered horrors.

Elon Musk should invest in the farms, because it would probably only take couch change from him to keep it strong, and it has a disproportion effect on upsetting Twitter.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

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It's funny when you think of that Null's last name was Potter and Metokur called Null the Harry Potter of this drama. Null is Harry Potter and Keffals is Voldemort. You guys know how the movies end.

I see more of this as a phyrric victory. Who knows if it might ignite a Streisand effect? Btw, Encyclopedia Dramatica still have a page on Keffals. https://web.archive.org/web/20220905134346/https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Keffals

 

[Babs Dixon II]

They're so fucking dramatic. How is a site that does nothing illegal, the 'Voldemort' of anti-trans websites? The tranny bits are only a small portion of what is discussed here. There are sites that host CP, white supremacy, actual bodily threats to people, that still exist.

This is what pisses me off. The evil shit that's out there...really bad bad stuff yet what really focusses them is calling out a load of men in dresses and making them feel bad ('cos we know they're all delicate flowers right and would never do anything bad)

 

[Doji]

How can journalists be allowed only to cover what they want about someone, they should be legally obliged to dig out whole truths lol. Journalism really is a joke.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

So here's something I discovered today regarding the #DropKiwifarms campaign on Twatter.

Over the past week I had noticed that there were a lot of under 20 follower, even under 10 follower accounts tweeting in favour of the #DropKiwifarms campaign.

I decided to actually sit down and screengrab these accounts just as the stream of tweets was unfolding (i.e. before they were able to garner followers and seem more legit), and indeed, many of these accounts appear to be accounts that are activated just to tweet about KF.


These accounts were all screengrabbed around the time of the news of DDoSGuard dropping KF.

Some of the slightly larger under50 follower accounts appear to be fake news sites or tech news aggregation accounts that appear to be associated with India.




This to me suggests that someone has obtained a large number of sockpuppet accounts/spam accounts on Twatter as part of an SEO campaign to make it seem like there's a lot of tweeting about Kiwifarms so as to keep the topic trending. Please have a look at my evidence and tell me what you think. Go have a look at what's being posted by whom under "kiwifarms" right now. Every 3-5 tweets you will come across an account such as the ones above. Almost no followers, seemingly activated just to keep Kiwifarms trending.

This is how evil, manipulative and deceptive TRAs are. They'll manufacture praise and support where there is none organically.

 

[Doji]

So here's something I discovered today regarding the #DropKiwifarms campaign on Twatter.

Over the past week I had noticed that there were a lot of under 20 follower, even under 10 follower accounts tweeting in favour of the #DropKiwifarms campaign.

I decided to actually sit down and screengrab these accounts just as the stream of tweets was unfolding (i.e. before they were able to garner followers and seem more legit), and indeed, many of these accounts appear to be accounts that are activated just to tweet about KF.

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These accounts were all screengrabbed around the time of the news of DDoSGuard dropping KF.

Some of the slightly larger under50 follower accounts appear to be fake news sites or tech news aggregation accounts that appear to be associated with India.


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This to me suggests that someone has obtained a large number of sockpuppet accounts/spam accounts on Twatter as part of an SEO campaign to make it seem like there's a lot of tweeting about Kiwifarms so as to keep the topic trending. Please have a look at my evidence and tell me what you think. Go have a look at what's being posted by whom under "kiwifarms" right now. Every 3-5 tweets you will come across an account such as the ones above. Almost no followers, seemingly activated just to keep Kiwifarms trending.

This is how evil, manipulative and deceptive TRAs are. They'll manufacture praise and support where there is none organically.

The complexity of the world never ceases to amaze, it's hard to tell when the troon op ends and where the new world order op begins. LOL

 

[McSneaks]

I have still yet to see a single thing, anywhere, stating what this imminent threat is, or show any contact to law enforcement (which would be the first step, because as that long boring crypost says Cloudflare stood behind violent neo-nazis for a decade, so if life was in imminent danger why would you go to them again?)

Mr. Keffals hasn't even shown (or even said) that he contacted ANYONE about the apparently VERY REAL VERY SCARY bomb threat, which he believed was VERY SERIOUS to his life, where a guy had an entire team of people IMMEDIATELY disperse and plant bombs at a multitude of restaurants (all of the ones in the area) for Mr. Keffals. Surely if an entire team of terrorists, within a 5-10 minute window, was activated and planting active explosives throughout a city, completely willing to kill untold innocent civilians, this would be a matter not just for the police, but the FBI and anti-terrorism departments.

He believes this team was serious and threatening enough that they were going to do this, but then just assumed they would change their mind because he said "nvm not getting tea lol"? You'd have to be a pretty egotistically shitty, worthless human being to not feel like notifying IMMEDIATELY everyone about this active terrorist threat, other than tweeting a company.

So clearly Josh has been contacted by these authorities for information on this terrorist cell right?