The Legend of Heroes Series - Possibly The Most Underrated JRPG Series

Polyboros2 said:
Figured out I can emulate the PSP on my phone, so I'm going to finally give this series a try a try with Trails in the sky, I think I can play a good number that way until I jump to the switch, had anyone tried the fan translations for the ones not localized until recently?
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I played the original Zero/Ao translations a few years ago, and I also had the Cold Steel IV/Hajimari translation spreadsheet handy because my Japanese proficiency comes to a dead stop when the game starts talking politics.

Kitsune's spreadsheets are pretty raw but equally standard. No narrative flourishes or anything like that, but the games in Japanese do tend to have much blander dialogue beyond the archetypes, so that's not really his fault.

I didn't get to try the Geofront translation before they sold out to the opportunistic retards at NISA buying their spreadsheet for pennies and still taking 2-3 years to release them.
 
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Scuttle said:
I played the original Zero/Ao translations a few years ago, and I also had the Cold Steel IV/Hajimari translation spreadsheet handy because my Japanese proficiency comes to a dead stop when the game starts talking politics.
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Why? I hardly see any politics that warrant discussion.
 
Mexican_Wizard_711 said:
Why? I hardly see any politics that warrant discussion.
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When the games start talking about military operations/battalions/ranks and legislation stuff, the kanji and words used are far more likely to be terms I'm unfamiliar with.

This might be a false recollection, but I seem to recall the opening segment of Hajimari battering me with dates and military/war jargon I'd need a moment to read and look up, but they were cinematic white-on-black subtitles that you couldn't pause.

This was only the case for CS3-Haji. I played through Kuro before the English spreadsheet was completed.
 
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Woo ok so
I was actually thinking of getting the upcoming Trails games on the switch (except for the big one where everyone crosses over). I have the Cold Steel series on ps4, but I was thinking of giving it a rest figuratively speaking.
The sprite based art style looks like it could be great on Switch. Zero in particular.
I know the Lacrimosa port was bad purely because the frame rate was godawful. But in regards to the Trails I'm curious....especially considering these were originally PSP/vita(?) games.

Think they'll fit comfortably on switch?

@Marissa Moira I'm curious about your thoughts. You were very helpful with getting me into the series (as well as Atelier)
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
I know the Lacrimosa port was bad purely because the frame rate was godawful. But in regards to the Trails I'm curious....especially considering these were originally PSP/vita(?) games.
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Switch will have no problem running the Crossbell games and Nayuta unless there is some historic fuck up. The Switch versions are already out in Japan and I haven't heard about any issues. Like you said, they were PSP games and the releases we are getting aren't even a real "remaster".

Have you played through all of the Cold Steel games?
 
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ForgedBlades said:
Switch will have no problem running the Crossbell games and Nayuta unless there is some historic fuck up. The Switch versions are already out in Japan and I haven't heard about any issues. Like you said, they were PSP games and the releases we are getting aren't even a real "remaster".

Have you played through all of the Cold Steel games?
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I still gotta finish IV. I'm pretty far into it. I think I'm in the final act?
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
Woo ok so
I was actually thinking of getting the upcoming Trails games on the switch (except for the big one where everyone crosses over). I have the Cold Steel series on ps4, but I was thinking of giving it a rest figuratively speaking.
The sprite based art style looks like it could be great on Switch. Zero in particular.
I know the Lacrimosa port was bad purely because the frame rate was godawful. But in regards to the Trails I'm curious....especially considering these were originally PSP/vita(?) games.

Think they'll fit comfortably on switch?

@Marissa Moira I'm curious about your thoughts. You were very helpful with getting me into the series (as well as Atelier)
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I could emulate Zero/Ao on my old Galaxy S7, so I don't think the Switch will have any problems actually running the game. The ports are already out in Japan so I think any issues the game may have will, as they always do, arise from NISA fucking up the terminology pre-established in the other games.
 
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Really not a fan of the Erebonia arc, hopefully Crossbell is actually similar to what I liked.
 
Slap47 said:
Really not a fan of the Erebonia arc, hopefully Crossbell is actually similar to what I liked.
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Crossbell is kind of a bit of both.

It tightens the worldbuilding techniques and character entrance/exits established in the Sky trilogy, whilst also keeping the story nice and snug within two games. However, Azure is where the Cold Steel powercreep truly started, even if, in a vacuum, Azure is fantastic and Cold Steel isn't.
 
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So the fact that Azure is coming out supposedly during the first half of 2023 has me wondering if Kuro will be arriving at the end of 2023.

That would be a similar time frame compared to 3 and 4 which were released not even a full year between each other.
 
Marissa Moira said:
So the fact that Azure is coming out supposedly during the first half of 2023 has me wondering if Kuro will be arriving at the end of 2023.

That would be a similar time frame compared to 3 and 4 which were released not even a full year between each other.
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Nayuta and Reverie are 2023 too, no? Four games in the same year is too much.

Kuro is Q2 2024 at the absolute earliest.
 
NISA sent a cease and desist to the people working on the Kuro and Kuro 2 fan translations and people are losing their ever loving shit.
 
ForgedBlades said:
NISA sent a cease and desist to the people working on the Kuro and Kuro 2 fan translations and people are losing their ever loving shit.
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Unsurprising. It doesn't help that their next Trails release is based on a modded fan translation and they'll likely be announcing the release date of the second game that they based off a modded fan translation on September 7.

Toshihiro Kondo has said in multiple interviews that he loves the Western fans' passion to make do with their lot and take it upon themselves to make the series accessible in the interim, so this C&D comes off as an insanely tone deaf and a direct betrayal of the relationship between Falcom and the fans.

Meanwhile, Clouded Leopard are localising the same games in other Asian territories only a couple of months after its initial release, while NISA try to hype up a 12 year-old PSP game (which they aren't even dubbing) in the same month they fall behind by a third title with Kuro2.

Even fucking Soul Hackers 2 got a worldwide release and that's a poorly-advertised sequel to a poorly-advertised and obscure Sega Saturn game. Kuro2 is looking like a 2026 title.
 
It's an unpopular opinion, but I really believe that NISA has very little to do with the current state of Trails in the west, and the real reasons we have to wait five years for Kuro stems from retarded decisions made more than a decade ago by Falcom and XSEED.

I'm not trying to justify them shutting down the Zerofield team because I think it will do more harm than good in the long run, but a lot of the bitching about the release schedule shows a misunderstanding of history and naivety with how game development and publishing works.
 
Question, has anybody played Hajimari with the translation patch floating around on 4chan? I heard that you can fully play the game, but that not everything is translated and I'm one of those crazy bastards that talks to every single npc every time an event happens in game.
 
ShitLurker said:
Question, has anybody played Hajimari with the translation patch floating around on 4chan? I heard that you can fully play the game, but that not everything is translated and I'm one of those crazy bastards that talks to every single npc every time an event happens in game.
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/fg/ patch does not have the NPCs translated as far as I know. That might have changed, I haven't really been keeping up with it. You could always ask. You might get three or four people telling you to kill yourself and lurk moar, but usually someone will come out of the woodwork and help.
 
ForgedBlades said:
/fg/ patch does not have the NPCs translated as far as I know. That might have changed, I haven't really been keeping up with it. You could always ask. You might get three or four people telling you to kill yourself and lurk moar, but usually someone will come out of the woodwork and help.
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From what I saw lurking it's still the same translation from the original Excel file thing though. so I imagine that indeed means no translated NPCs.

Guess it means waiting more then since the world building is one of the things I enjoy from the series the most.
 
Just found this thread because it was the most recently commented on and appeared on the front page, now I just need to find a fragrance one and a figure skating one and I'll be covered as far as my bigger interests go. I'm not big on video games, after Golden Sun 2, I went over 10 years without playing anything because nothing piqued my interest and it was the Legend of Heroes series that got me back into games so it holds a special place in my heart.

Really happy to hear I'm not the only one on here who's had the pleasure to play these games. I don't watch anime or anything so I'm pretty immune to tropes I hear people complaining about- my husband couldn't get into them because he's played a lot of JRPGs and he finds Trails to be kind of formulaic, so I don't have lots of people I can talk about this game series with!
 
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