As a gurofag, I find the loli debate interesting because after people are done with loli, Guro is next. if they can charge you with endangering a real child with a drawing of a being that doesn't exist, they can charge you with murder for a drawing of a murder that didn't happen.
It's a stretch but stupid shit has happened.
Anyway. After browsing Twitter and reading threads filled with people who have MAP on their profile calling Japanese artists pedophiles for young (not loli ) characters, I came up with a simple stance.
Is it based off of a real, living, breathing person?
Was it sketched off of a real child?
Do you call yourself a MAP?
Yes at any point : You should be in jail.
No - Carry on being a degenerate in your own private part of the internet.
Why do I have such a simple stance? Because if you break it down into smaller, stupid parts you end up with circular logic that enables severe authoritarian bullshit with enough loopholes for everything. You give faggots an inch and they'll take a mile.
Essentially.
You kill people in Grand Theft Auto, Postal , Saints Row. Should you be held responsible for the crimes you committed virtually?
You willingly choose to play those videogames, where you can run people down and slaughter them with no remorse. You can desecrate graves, rob banks, steal cars, all, if you did these things in real life, would carry a hefty fine and severe jail time.
Should you be held responsible for the crime of the theft of pixels in the shape of a car?
versus
You fire up Skyrim , Fallout Honey Select , Sims , any game that lets you have sex with then brutalize a virtual doll woman until it's red and broken, then you hit the slider to turn her into a loli, then do it again and then you hit the slider to turn her into a furry animal and finally Thomas the tank engine?
Should you be held responsible for the crime of the rape of pixels in the shape of a woman, an animal, a little girl and thomas the tank engine?
Both examples are digital crime simulators, but only one of the examples is backed by a multi-million dollar industry.
Of course there are extremists who say YES. Fuck those retards. People who believe imaginary shit is real is the same reason our country is overrun by troons and faggots playing pretend anarchist and pretend nazis who couldn't call someone a nigger to their face.
And then come the "Butttttt the pedophiles" argument
Real Pedophiles are actually out there looking for children to get their hands on. They don't need anything beyond their lust and tools like discord that give them unprotected access to children. The same way real criminals, real rapists and real serial killers don't need Saints Row, Postal or Grand Theft Auto to be menaces to society.
Of course, there's always the gross and horrible exceptions that ruin any argument you try to make. I don't pretend they don't exist. I make it my business to know these freaks exist and use them as examples to why I worry about the direction censorship is going.
If you want to save the world, sign up for the pedo hunter teams and hunt down actual pedos.
Remember. do your due diligence if your going vigilante, not everyone on the sex offender registry is a sex offender. Beating up a dude who's on the list for public urination isn't cool - depending on your state..