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- Dec 18, 2018
I'm obviously not going to agree with you that there are legitimate reasons to shut this site down. But you might be surprised at what things I do agree with you on. I'm not going to derail this thread, but suffice it to say I'm incredibly uninterested in "owning trans people" or "destroying the left". It's easy to make assumptions about the userbase here, but that might be another thing you might want to dig into and read more about.My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.
It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.
At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
I don't know you and I don't especially care about you. I don't really care how you see the site or what you plan (or planned) on saying about it or to whom. (Although from what I can tell, we probably have more in common than you'd be comfortable with, honestly.) You are not going to save our site and you are definitely not the man who's going to protect anyone's rights or freedoms in the real world. But you did something honest and principled and I can appreciate that. I mean, I also don't know Josh Moon and don't especially care about him. In fact, from what I can tell, I adamantly disagree with him on pretty much everything. But he does have principles and I can appreciate that.
At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. That somehow seems too much to ask.