Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
I'm obviously not going to agree with you that there are legitimate reasons to shut this site down. But you might be surprised at what things I do agree with you on. I'm not going to derail this thread, but suffice it to say I'm incredibly uninterested in "owning trans people" or "destroying the left". It's easy to make assumptions about the userbase here, but that might be another thing you might want to dig into and read more about.

I don't know you and I don't especially care about you. I don't really care how you see the site or what you plan (or planned) on saying about it or to whom. (Although from what I can tell, we probably have more in common than you'd be comfortable with, honestly.) You are not going to save our site and you are definitely not the man who's going to protect anyone's rights or freedoms in the real world. But you did something honest and principled and I can appreciate that. I mean, I also don't know Josh Moon and don't especially care about him. In fact, from what I can tell, I adamantly disagree with him on pretty much everything. But he does have principles and I can appreciate that.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. That somehow seems too much to ask.
 
The thing that stood out to me between the Farms' documentation and the Destiny doc was the lack of the catboy ranch channel skeevy pedo behavior. Though in fairness, being a skeeve on a Discord is not an easily-parsed smoking gun with just a couple screenshots unless someone got shots of him demanding the users send him pictures of little boy assholes.
 
The thing that stood out to me between the Farms' documentation and the Destiny doc was the lack of the catboy ranch channel skeevy pedo behavior. Though in fairness, being a skeeve on a Discord is not an easily-parsed smoking gun with just a couple screenshots unless someone got shots of him demanding the users send him pictures of little boy assholes.
The DIY hormone shit was way more damning than the weird catboy shit ever could be
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.

I mean, on the one hand I hate you, because saying this site needs to be taken down entirely because it reposts publically available info is cancerous virtue signaling bullshit. Like, nothing about this site is illegal, it's just people laughing at retards on the internet. So on that front, I really do think you're a piece of shit. Also this line here: "I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc..." is a flat out lie. What bomb threats, nigga? The only "bomb threat" was from an obvious sock puppet account. I won't bother to elaborate because, well, you've done "two weeks of research" so you already know that is bullshit.

But, and it's a big but, I will say that I respect you presenting the facts about this situation for dumb motherfuckers that won't actually bother reading this site or knowing what it's about (because let's face facts, most normies don't know what this site is and will only accept the MSM narrative around it) despite there being a thread about you. I mean even the fact that you came here again to make a statement like this says something about you. I'm not sure that "something" is entirely good, but hey, you have principles, you stick by them, and I can respect that.

If you would only admit that this site is overall harmless, I would actually respect you as a person, and I feel most of the users here would too (despite platforming Mr. Girl who is an actual pedophile). As it stands though, all I see is a guy that's standing by his principles, but those principles include "the bad website that says mean things needs to go away" which is fucking stupid. Either go all in against deplatforming or ignore it, you can't flip flop on this. To say you're against deplatforming but then say on here "well I'd be glad if the site went away" is absolute hypocrisy.

To sum all of this up: I want to like you, because you actually stand by your beliefs, but also you try to get wishy-washy when it comes to actually standing by everything you've said ie: deplatforming. Stop being a faggot fence sitter and take a stance: should this site exist? You've already proven that the suicide allegations are bullshit. Fact is, when things are working correctly, offsite harassment is discouraged with the threat of bans (or being mocked relentlessly, which is arguably worse lol). Do you really think this site is dangerous? And if it's not, why should it go away?
 
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It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

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the lines were drawn long before you started writing that post my dude lol

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc

so you and your boys did yourselves a big heckin research project but somehow missed the part about the bomb threat being obviously gayops. if you're gonna have any credibility as mister galaxy brain Skeptic Thinker guy then you gotta fill in all the blanks on your homework friend
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
1. What bomb threats?
2, What is the "good argument(s)" for shutting this site down?
 
Better yet. "The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my other enemy." - Dr. Gordan Freeman
There will never be real peace with adversaries. Just moments to take advantage of, so you better take it first.
A bit late but: "My enemy's enemy, is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less."

I've heard this quote a few times before in the past and liked it. Tvtropes attributes it to "Schlock Mercenary" which I won't lie, means I have no clue where *I* heard it from, but thought I'd share.
 
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Destiny really needs to stop with this "enlightened centrism" bullshit. Mahfucka thinks he's Switzerland.

"One side is a literal pedophile cabal who has lured and groomed children and peddled bathtub drugs to them, exchanged CP, and tried to hack and deplatform anybody who caught on. The other side calls people faggots on the internet and said I looked like the cavemen from Robot Chicken. They are equally bad."
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
From tranny chaser to tranny slayer, gj destiny, I always knew you were a good guy deep down.
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
While I appreciate the fact that you tried to lay out the facts about Kiwi Farms in a fair and even-handed manner, you should bear in mind three things:

1. La révolution dévore ses enfants - the revolution devours its children. One day, the leftist mob will come for you, it's not a question of if, it's only a matter of when.

2. We live in a society where the First Amendment has been rendered meaningless, because the corporate world, journalists and academia have all decided that there is perfectly legal speech that nonetheless will not be tolerated, and they have formed a very effective set of mechanisms to enforce their collective dictates.

3. There is no group of people in Western society that has ever been so immune to any and all criticism in the way that troons and genderspecials are today. Basic scientific facts about biology and psychology that are completely obvious to everyone are totally ignored or contravened if they don't reinforce the cult's doctrine. And what's really amazing is that they have persisted with the fiction that rather than wielding virtually unprecedented power, they are in fact the victims of persecution.

This is one of the only places on the internet where people can discuss these issues without fear. Kiwi Farms is a website for laughing at internet retards that was never intended to be literally one of the only places where people could air their views on controversial topics without facing repercussions... What will our society transform into when the few places that still allow truly free speech cease to exist? That's what you should really worry about.
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
Dude, you are trying to use newspeak to say how the party is double plus ungood. Your only achievement is digging your own grave while being fucked by organizations who have more time and money to burn hunting you.
Organising this long evidence list is pointless. Keffals is simply a sign of a current cancer and there are a dozens like him, who are also smart enough to not publicly announce their crimes. The fact that the media ignores Keffals crimes already shows that your efforts will be in vain.

In the end the question is what's the point of writing this? We at the forum already know that the guy is beyond redemption. Normies will be afraid of long text. The media will simply choose a few choice quotes to say you hate trannies. And using it for legal reasons means you already giving his lawyers the chance to find holes.
 
"Kiwi Farms is an Internet forum started in 2013 by a slightly deranged individual known as Null, or Joshua Moon."
Haha, man, these freaks just can't help themselves, can they?
I don't necessarily doubt that dear leader has his fair share of strange proclivities, considering the lengths he's willing to go to keep this glorious forum up for his and our entertainment, but come on; look who's talking.
 
Will the Left come after Destiny? They already have. Just as the Right would, the same in fighting happens. It's two sides of the same coin to some extent. I don't care if he hates trannies or if he crushes amholes into the next dimension. I think the document he put out transcends politics bullshit and most importantly gave Kiwi Farms a fair shake which is more than almost anyone with a platform as big as his is willing to do and I respect that.
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.

I can’t be arsed to discuss the merits of Kiwifarms, so I will just say on this I disagree that thee are reasons to close the site.

However, talking as someone who was only vaguely aware of you before, being more interested in the horrorcows, the man children and the oafs, you have at least a thicker skin and kudos for succeeding in debating Keffals outside of his comfort zone and concisely putting balance to the situation.
 
My first writing of this was incredibly snarky, I was going to originally lay into her much harder, but yeah, optically I want to leave as little out there as possible for them to focus on so they're not able to squirm away from the actual accusations laid forth in the document. It would be stupid for me to waste 2 weeks of research just for everyone to quote a few insults from the doc and hand-wave it all because it was written too aggressively.

It has nothing to do with "owning trans people" or "destroying the left" or any stupid shit like that. I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...so I had no desire to originally defend this place over anything, I was just upset that Keffals was able to get away with so many lies on her journey to being a media darling. I was also originally not going to write anything about the suicides attributed to KF and only comment on the strangeness of the lack of proof of Near/David actually being dead, but once I began to dig and read more it was hard not to say anything.

At the end of the day, I just want a good recording of what's actually happened. There are legitimate arguments for shutting down places like this or other sites that participate in doxing, but I believe those arguments need to be made, defended, then acted upon, and not some bullshit arguments made up and acted on because people feel like the other ones aren't actionable enough.
TThese people who want to shut down the farms have no good reason why they want this site removed.it's like they don't want anyone viewing their embarrassing history online.we make fun of them online they get mad and will anything to have it removed.

But keffal is a degenerate don't deserved to be respected.he's beyond redemption at this point.
 
1. La révolution dévore ses enfants - the revolution devours its children. One day, the leftist mob will come for you, it's not a question of if, it's only a matter of when.
It was pathetic and funny to watch retards on his subreddit feel the walls closing in while kaffels was on the offensive, only for them to flip after it withers down and an :optimistic: narrative starts to appear 'that place was attacked bc of jenwen transofopia, surly they won't come after US! Right?!?!! We're very good boys and will always lick the axe wound! Certainly, maybe, our tranny overlord will allow us this one teeny tiny critic-what? No? You want to sell hrt to minors and I should shut the fuck up or you will report me for transphopia? Okay then lol.'


I will laugh a heartly laugh when they come for the ddgers.
 
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The DIY hormone shit was way more damning than the weird catboy shit ever could be
True. it would be easy to add that catboy ranch shit but if he were to bring it to attention then everyone would discredit the entire document. I think the catboy ranch shit is most likely 100 percent true at this point based on how ALL of the creepy fucks involved with the DIYHRT shit are running and trying to hide shit now. it does look like people are now looking into it on their own and finding out about the catboy ranch and pink pilling. it would be fucking hilarious that Queen Keffals is responsible for drawing too much attention to their creepy antics and it becomes the next thing all conservatives use as ammo against the troons. They are literally grooming minors and instructing them how to buy/make bathtub hormones without their parents finding out.
 
I was one of the people early on saying that KF was stupid for making bomb threats etc...
First of all, a really good writeup. I think it was wise to make it less snarky. It then reads a lot more neutral and will be taken a lot more serious this way.

For the bomb threaths. Sure there are retards here on the farms, there are in any group of people, but by the large we have a motto to not get involved or interact with the cows. Sure, some members do not understand that so we need to shame them into understanding the culture. (we call these members new-fags, because they are new to the site)

By and large, "do not pozload my negholep". We gossip and talk, often very rudely, about lolcows but all that stays on the site (or should stay on the site).
Any retard member on the farms that do shit like order pizza or phoning them and making threats WILL be mercilessly shamed by us if we find out, or if they do something exceptionally stupid like brag about it.

I can't say no farmer was involved in interacting with keffals. I don't think any farmer was involved. I really hope that no farmer was involved. Because interacting with the cows is completly against the culture of the site. We talk about the cow, we don't touch the cow.

Good writeup though.

EDIT: I understand DOXBIN has already claimed they were the ones hacking his accounts and ordering the food. Rate me late and gay.
 
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