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Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers
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Titty time! Top surgeries from 15/09/22 - 4/10/22.
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Just wanted to share my experience with Kathy Rumer as a larger bodied individual.
First- she was weirded out by me not wanting to keep my nipples. Even on the surgery day she drew spots on my chest to place them and I had to remind her that I wasn’t doing nipple grafts
Second- her surgical team/nurses at the hospital are woefully undertrained with regards to trans patients. I was continually misgendered (called “she” and “woman”) despite my telling the staff that I’m a trans guy. Not a very pleasant experience for a “gender affirmation clinic”
Third- I had a massive hematoma on my right hand side that swelled up when one of my drains got clogged. She insisted upon manually draining it as opposed to inserting another set of drains. She got about a liter of chocolate syrup-like fluid out, then sent me home where it continued to balloon. I ended up going to the ER where they finally placed a new drain.
Fourth- she took too much tissue from my left side leaving me literally concave, and she left massive dog ears and part of my right areola. When I went back to her for my post-op appointment she tried to gaslight me into thinking my nipple was actually just part of my scar. Despite the fact that it’s brown. She also told me if I lost weight my dog ears would go away (not true) When I asked about revision she brushed me off and said I didn’t need anything that my chest was “fine”
Lastly- when I decided to go to a different surgeon to get my revision done, her office has been dragging their heels with getting the operative report to my new surgeon. Part of me wonders if they’re trying to hide something from me…
First- she was weirded out by me not wanting to keep my nipples. Even on the surgery day she drew spots on my chest to place them and I had to remind her that I wasn’t doing nipple grafts
Second- her surgical team/nurses at the hospital are woefully undertrained with regards to trans patients. I was continually misgendered (called “she” and “woman”) despite my telling the staff that I’m a trans guy. Not a very pleasant experience for a “gender affirmation clinic”
Third- I had a massive hematoma on my right hand side that swelled up when one of my drains got clogged. She insisted upon manually draining it as opposed to inserting another set of drains. She got about a liter of chocolate syrup-like fluid out, then sent me home where it continued to balloon. I ended up going to the ER where they finally placed a new drain.
Fourth- she took too much tissue from my left side leaving me literally concave, and she left massive dog ears and part of my right areola. When I went back to her for my post-op appointment she tried to gaslight me into thinking my nipple was actually just part of my scar. Despite the fact that it’s brown. She also told me if I lost weight my dog ears would go away (not true) When I asked about revision she brushed me off and said I didn’t need anything that my chest was “fine”
Lastly- when I decided to go to a different surgeon to get my revision done, her office has been dragging their heels with getting the operative report to my new surgeon. Part of me wonders if they’re trying to hide something from me…
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Elephant Dick has become part of an infographic.
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They're all so terrible. Gotta love the scarification/self harm scars on the first one. But this one... What the ever loving fuck is going on with this titty twister?
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After reading her (messy) account it looks like she had a partial reduction and is now interested in getting the full deal.
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That's the sad part of these. If they gain weight, they'll gain weight back in the boob area, which is apparently what happened here. And, as we women know, as you get older, you gain weight easier. So, they really have to watch their weight for the rest of their life in order for their zippertits to not grow back.
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These are all so awful. The thing that always kills me about TiFs is the way they wear their pants. The waist of men’s pants are rarely if ever worn that close to the navel. Only very specific kinds of pants are supposed to worn that high, like the trousers of a tuxedo for instance, and even then they shouldn’t come higher than an inch or two BELOW the navel. Due to the fucking skeletal structure of these girls, the waist of their pants is still worn at an extremely feminine placement, it’s always such a hilarious giveaway. Even in the hyper roided out and muscular ones, it’s an obvious tell.
Also. at first glance, that last one, the SE Asian chick, looks to be the most “passing” but shes cheating since she has a racial bonus. Then when you actually look, the whole thing crumbles instantly. I mean just look at the tiny doll hands holding that phone (holy shit lmao), those are a small pair of headphones (nice try), the head is massive compared to the shoulders, the shoulder to hip ratio (again lmao), the length of the torso, their size in comparison to the objects in the background. Good luck with all that honey, you will never pass as a man.
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So basically we're gonna take the hit for this, per uge?
It's almost as if biology will not be denied.
I think the bigger travesty is that some them came from having decent, average bodies that if they just accepted, would've granted them access to the benefits and pleasures they could grow to enjoy. (Considering, of course, first dealing with the early onset sexual trauma some of them are clearly dealing with (i.e., self-harm scarring, excessive tattoos)). Now, they have wiped away one of the largest erogenous zones on a woman, in the first mile marker of total desensitization and physical unattractiveness. All of the after images are recoil worthy. And to the one who was clearly botched: it's painful to see, hellish to endure, I'm sure. Yes, there is areola; yes, you have dog ears that will only look worse with time; yes, your intuition about the clinic was accurate. They are not there to affirm you, the butcher wasn't there to get the surgery correct the first time, and surely not interested in a revision. They were there because you were a "trick," and you fell to the temptation of the prostitute.
I'm sad now. Only because my humor has a higher cooldown. I'll be back to Joker laughing at the hilarity soon.
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That and she's doing some weird pursed-lip glare in the second pic as if the surgery is an improvement on her desirability... Honeybees (Queen bee to boot lol) and smol delicate uwu birdies, symbols of the natural world, framing a brutalized, unnatural, torso.
Really it just highlights the tragedy of the whole situation. Dunno why this one in particular got me.
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Why give a TiF puberty blockers? That's just going to retain their adolescent look for life, and adult men don't look like skinny frail children. With TiMs I understand why they want to use puberty blockers to keep that adolescent look (ew) in an attempt to look more feminine but, why TiFs? I guess to prevent the development of breasts? But by God, that's not even close an equal trade-off. It looks like this child still wants to get top surgery too. What's the fucking point?
These poor children have no idea they were told false promises and are going to live a hellish and painful life, appearing androgynous at best.
Edit: Troons actually believe this shit.
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Look it's granny tranny zipperits!
Get off mah lawn u fucking transphobic cis binary kids!
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My favourite FTM game is to look at open arms and shoulders in "top surgery" photos to find self-harm scars.
You know that most FTMs are just girls who were sexually abused as younger, transition is almost always a way to "escape" being female. They need help and actual love, not doctor-assisted self harm and love bombing from a cult.
You know that most FTMs are just girls who were sexually abused as younger, transition is almost always a way to "escape" being female. They need help and actual love, not doctor-assisted self harm and love bombing from a cult.
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To be honest this is an extremally simple question that only has incredibly complicated answers, but a lot of it boils down to human nature. I'm going not going to expand on a lot of these ideas (unless someone really wants me to) because most will be easily recognizable but here we go:
1 million people can't be wrong : The more people who have this procedure or agree with the idea, the more it justifies me having it done and believing in it, even if my results have been bad.
It's not bad, I AM : My surgery turned out badly and ruined my entire life, but everyone else is saying it's great so it must just be me. I can't risk scaring people away from doing the same if it will make them as happy as my friends, so I'll say mine went well and smile too.
All or nothing : Surgery is part of my ideology, therefore if the surgery is wrong, everything else could be too.
This is ME now : I've wrapped so much of my identity into this, and now my body too, if I admit this failed, that makes ME a failure too.
All Eyes on Me : I've been building up this surgery for ages and everyone's asking about results, do I shine like a star or crumble into dust?
Time heals all : Okay things are bad NOW but one more surgery and I'll have that fully functioning vagina. I know I will because everyone else says I will, and to believe that I have to keep saying it too. Just one more....
Don't say it! : By denying it's anything but a wonderful experience I'm opening myself up to a world of "I told you so"s. I can't give all my enemies (and all the loving friends and family who tried to warn me against that) that pleasure.
No way but forward : There's no undo button so I'm just going to tell myself this is great and I want this, and maybe one day I'll believe it.
Mutilated Martyr : The tech obviously isn't there, but if we stop having the surgeries they'll never improve. Future generations will thank us when their surgeries go flawlessly.
With us or against us : Every time someone admits they're botched or its bad it's fuel used against all of us. I don't want to be used by the enemy or have my community turn against me.
Bonded by Blood : This surgery was incredibly traumatizing but no one outside of the community can understand that pain or fear. The larger we make the community and the more people who go through this, the more people will sympathize with me.
Better than dead : Yeah I'm miserable now, but if I hadn't had it done I would have been so much worse! My community says (being misgendered/having the wrong genitals/not passing/not standing to pee/insert other argument) makes you suicidal, so I probably would have killed myself!*
The Right Side of History : Wow I got talked into something very stupid, but I was incredibly outspoken about my transition journey. How do I want to be remembered when trans people win the Social Justice Wars? A loyalist or a traitor?
Living Vicariously : I have nothing to look forward to or get excited about anymore, but I can relive the excitement of waiting for surgery through these kids.
I'm right, RIGHT? : All our vaginas look real, work like real and don't hurt or rot at all, right other trans women? Yes a little bleeding and fecal matter is normal, I know it's normal because it's happening to me and it happened to you too so it's no big deal, RIGHT? Because if you say it's not, I might think it's not and then I'm going to have to face what I've done. SO IT'S ALL GOOD, RIGHT??
Beside By Proxy : I've gotten this done, I've lived through the pain and the revisions and the misery and now I can guide these kids too. They'll depend on me, they'll need me as their shepherd and nurse, and they'll be thankful for all my help and attention forever.
The More the Merrier : This is a pain I'll carry for the rest of my life but I refuse to suffer alone.
* I am personally convinced half the hysterics from the trans community about "feeling suicidal" when cis people so X, Y and Z is because they've convinced themselves (by having been convinced by "trans elders') a real trans person WOULD express suicidal ideation in that situation.
I do think part of this is planted purposely by some "trans elders" in hopes more young people threatening suicide will push their points and with the secret hope that some do commit suicide to further push their agenda and, as stated in some of the above points, justify their own mangled bodies and beliefs.
There's a sample platter of justifications and thought processes, they're the same you see with cults, with compulsive gamblers, bad investors, and well, pretty much anything you sink any of yourself into and desperately need outside validation to stop yourself from facing the truth for.
Even the most level headed people have a hard time admitting they've made life altering mistakes and are fully at fault, so as much as it drives me mad when detrans point their fingers at everyone who didn't "try hard enough" to stop them (despite threatening suicide or to cut them off if they did) I actually don't blame them.
Also just a pro-tip for anyone reading this no matter what your motivation: threatening to kill yourself to get your own way is always a scummy, shitty thing to do. We only ever talk about it being abusive in the context of relationships (when a person threatens to kill themselves if you leave) but it applies across all boards. It's become the favourite card to play of the trans community (despite also getting upset if anyone mentions 41% and screaming how it's fake) but it's also a clear sign of immaturity and instability.
If you find yourself using this threat, try to reflect on what you're really saying and how you're really feeling. I get that you just want to get your point across, but do you really want to end your life just because your mom wants you to listen to your doctor rather than some random people online? Take a deep breath, really try to look at the scenario objectively. If you still want to eat a bullet at the end of it, well that's your choice. I doubt too many people will miss someone who thinks lipstick over their stubble is worth dying for.
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It is almost as if nature is getting in on the trolling.
Nature: Circumvent the biological code I spent eons perfecting, huh? [proceeds to break the code altogether]
TiF: I know these also used on sex offenders puberty blockers, this definitely poisonous, but also more than likely cancerous because it was sourced from a sketch Chinese manufacturer, which also happens to be located next to a wet market T, and this just plain unnecessary mastectomy paid off, because Twitter and Reddit said it would; and now I'm a real boy! [notices glitchy boobs, lithe body, and girl hips] >>> Dysphoria intensfies <<<
To the point of that tweet: In this desired timeline where there "won't be a wave of 'detransitioners' or 'medical scandals'," that'll be due, in large part, to the suppression campaign and shaming tacticts you're employing on the current detransitioners, only ramped up to 100, thanks to the complicity of woke big tech and other corporations bending the knee to gyrldique(TiM), and booting spaces like this (that are wholly separate and away from such infected places) off the [capital I]nternet.
So you see, kind zir, it won't be due to a sudden wave of enlightenment. It will be due to the North Korea level of narrative curating.
I think a big part of the push for puberty blockers for TiFs is the fact that it essentially guarantees that the tif will move on to cross-sex hormones and likely surgery. Kids naturally desist about 80-90% of the time, but kids on blockers move on to cross sex hormones nearly 100% of the time.
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I read this years ago but I think it was mostly to prevent distress around breast development and menstruation.
I don't want to speak for every woman, but I can confidently tell you that ~99% of 10-13 year olds would love the option to stop periods. It's not surprising that giving these kids an option to take a pill to get rid of it results in enthusiastic yes from them. Cause y'know, children are stupid.
I don't know if this is an official effect that get paraded by the doctors or if it just speculation but a lot of the puberty blocked girls seem to be under the impression that the blockers will increase their height. This is not actually true as it's genetics that is responsible for the extra height that men have; not their hormone differences. So I guess that's an extra potential reason for why these girls are put on blockers.
The irony of that is that most of the PB TiFs I've come across tend to be undersized. Quite a few have been less than 5 feet. So it might actually do the opposite.
I don't want to speak for every woman, but I can confidently tell you that ~99% of 10-13 year olds would love the option to stop periods. It's not surprising that giving these kids an option to take a pill to get rid of it results in enthusiastic yes from them. Cause y'know, children are stupid.
I don't know if this is an official effect that get paraded by the doctors or if it just speculation but a lot of the puberty blocked girls seem to be under the impression that the blockers will increase their height. This is not actually true as it's genetics that is responsible for the extra height that men have; not their hormone differences. So I guess that's an extra potential reason for why these girls are put on blockers.
The irony of that is that most of the PB TiFs I've come across tend to be undersized. Quite a few have been less than 5 feet. So it might actually do the opposite.
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I mean, if you're already using the pedo suppressor off-label, may as well make wild claims about its efficacy and results. I can see a Troon-supporting quack opening the back of their stagecoach and heralding PT Barnum-style about the wonders of this miracle elixir to a townsfolk of rubes.
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Did this guy see the Ontario teacher and think "I need some of some that!"? His implants are already comically large but this is what happens when your entire idea of womanhood comes from porn.
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"I read this years ago but I think it was mostly to prevent distress around breast development and menstruation.
I don't want to speak for every woman, but I can confidently tell you that ~99% of 10-13 year olds would love the option to stop periods. It's not surprising that giving these kids an option to take a pill to get rid of it results in enthusiastic yes from them. Cause y'know, children are stupid."
Replying this way because the quoter wouldn't insert the quote.
There are birth control pills that will stop a period, and if that's all these girls really want there's no sense in going on Lupron to delay puberty altogether. While birth control pills have their own issues they're still safer than a complete puberty block.
I don't want to speak for every woman, but I can confidently tell you that ~99% of 10-13 year olds would love the option to stop periods. It's not surprising that giving these kids an option to take a pill to get rid of it results in enthusiastic yes from them. Cause y'know, children are stupid."
Replying this way because the quoter wouldn't insert the quote.
There are birth control pills that will stop a period, and if that's all these girls really want there's no sense in going on Lupron to delay puberty altogether. While birth control pills have their own issues they're still safer than a complete puberty block.
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True that would be the more reasonable and safe approach. Along with educating the child and allowing the child time to adapt to change.
But these people are not reasonable at all. They're the type of parents who can't say no or view any negative emotion from their children as a bad thing. They see the words 'new and experimental' and think that they're cool for being so innovative and progressive, like they're helping forward society.
There's no glory in putting your kid on birth control.