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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Conventional wisdom is that winter will be both sides in a holding pattern, but you can fight a winter war. It sucks even more than a regular war, but you can do it, we've seen it done in the past. And Ukraine is probably in a better position than Russia to do it.
they're already in the middle of the mud season and ukraine is still actively conducting successful offensive operations regardless
if the mud isn't stopping them, then ice and snow won't stop them either
 
1. Russia could have literally just switched it off from their end.
So could the west.
2. Europe winter is on the way, with an already existing energy crisis. Russia was in a prime position to make that go away with Nordstream and make obscene amounts of money from it.
I think Europe made it clear it was not in the market for Russian farts.
3. Sweden and USA were running joint military naval excerises in that exact area, just coincidence though huh?
Says who.
4. The only country with the means to destroy the pipeline and actually profit from it is the USA.
How? Also, Russia has deep sea tech too.
Still think Russia did it?....
Yes.
Go back to CNN you conspiracy retard.
All hail right'ism.
So, the US commits a terrorist attack against its German ally during peace time, destroying vital infrastructure, and quite possible fucks Europe for the next fifty years.
If the US did this shit, eventually some fucking evidence will come out that they poisoned a fucking sea just to bite Russia in the ass. No way anyone would risk that kind of damage control in the West with all the Greta Thunberg cultists protesting cow farts and shit.
Russia is going to beat Ukraine in any scenario put forward.
lol
With backing from China, India, Iran
lol
and Brazil
lool
Nigga, how far back in time are you?
 
Keep sucking down that CNN koolaid, faggot.
You may find time between wiping Zelenskyy's cum off your chin and Biden being balls deep in your ass.
There's a shill drinking game here. 'Koolaid' and graphically evoked sodomy when there's nothing faggier than a Russian soldier. I've never watched CNN even where it's unavoidable at airports. Your based pedo pederast hero is failing badly. You should ask a doctor for help urgently to cure your lust for little boys.
 
1. Russia could have literally just switched it off from their end.

2. Europe winter is on the way, with an already existing energy crisis. Russia was in a prime position to make that go away with Nordstream and make obscene amounts of money from it.

3. Sweden and USA were running joint military naval excerises in that exact area, just coincidence though huh?

4. The only country with the means to destroy the pipeline and actually profit from it is the USA.

Still think Russia did it?.... Go back to CNN you conspiracy retard.

So, the US commits a terrorist attack against its German ally during peace time, destroying vital infrastructure, and quite possible fucks Europe for the next fifty years.

Russia is going to beat Ukraine in any scenario put forward. With backing from China, India, Iran and Brazil it doesn't matter what other countries provide "support".
Also, with the current commander of the US military busy with diversity and combatting "white rage" good luck with your reserves. Along with nearly every western leader being a complete pussy, or in Biden's case a total fucking potato, what push back is there?

So far a bunch of whiny bitches screaming "sanctions" None of which have worked.
Nukes? Good luck Russia/China response will decimate the US.
1. Russia had already turned off Nord Stream four weeks before. The longer they kept it shut down, the less believable their story about 'technical difficulties' became. If Germany decided that Russia was deliberately refusing to fulfill its contracts, there would be more sanctions. Now that's no longer an issue.

2. Now that Russia is mobilizing and turning its industry towards war production, Russia is not going to make "obscene amounts of money." Besides, Nord Stream was only going to generate revenue for Russia if Germany was eventually going to give in, which doesn't seem to be the case.

3. Let's turn that around and ask if it makes sense for the US to conduct naval exercises in that area if they are planning an attack. Would you really want to plant multiple bombs near a new ally's territory during exercises where that ally's ships and planes were everywhere?

Whoever did it, probably used one or more civilian ships to avoid drawing attention and to keep the operation small.

4. You claim that this attack "quite possible fucks Europe for the next fifty years" and you don't think that Russia would profit from that..?

Ah yes, the people who complain about 30 billion being sent to Ukraine think that BRICS providing, uh, some unspecified amount of aid to Russia is going to turn things around for Russia. China, India and Brazil abstained from the UN resolution denouncing Russia's annexations and Russia had to veto the resolution. What great friends and allies Russia has!

Yes, sanctions don't work, but Putin also really, really, really wants the West to stop those sanctions even though they are making Russia richer than ever. If I was a Russian, I would actually feel betrayed by my glorious Vozhd for wanting to end those enrichening sanctions.

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It's hilarious if you think about it. The Ivans have learned absolutely nothing from WW2.
As part of Russia's Victory Cult (Pobedobesie) where they fetishize WWII and their role in it (taking all the credit), there's a famous phrase "Можем повторить!" which means "We can repeat it!", implying a threat to Germany and Europe as a whole, and capability to do so if they wanted. You can see it on banners, car stickers, t-shirts and the like (funnily enough, along with the Z symbology, all that shit disappeared from the view the day mobilization was declared).
Well, this is them trying exactly that, except unknowingly taking on a role of the loser. Fuck, at least Germans were competent.

Sheer fucking hubris.
 
A couple questions:

1. Is either side able to rotate out frontline troops and send them back home for a week to eat mom's cooking, fuck their wife, play catch with the kids, and so forth?

2. What are the Russians eating right now? What will they be eating in four months?

3. For that matter, where are they sleeping? Still in civilian houses?

4. How will loss of leaf cover change the strategy?

I guess a lot of this boils down to what the supply lines are looking like. My impression is that the Ukrainians are more organized in this matter than the Russians are, and the winter will only reinforce this advantage, but I can't point to a single source to prove it.
 
A couple questions:

1. Is either side able to rotate out frontline troops and send them back home for a week to eat mom's cooking, fuck their wife, play catch with the kids, and so forth?
It's damn far easier for one side to do that.
2. What are the Russians eating right now? What will they be eating in four months?
Cock, mostly.
3. For that matter, where are they sleeping? Still in civilian houses?
On cock.
4. How will loss of leaf cover change the strategy?
Main issue will be what to do about all the nightly stargazers.
I guess a lot of this boils down to what the supply lines are looking like. My impression is that the Ukrainians are more organized in this matter than the Russians are, and the winter will only reinforce this advantage, but I can't point to a single source to prove it.
Basic gist is Russia is scrambling from getting a massive and unexpected ass kicking, while Ukraine has been pulling every string there is to stockpile western aid. By the look of it, the war is kinda sorta most probably won, at least until Putin drops the baloney somewhere.
 
There are a fair few sources like that woman trainer or officer wrongly recommending tampons for wounds. I might edit in a vid from a vet showing why this is a bad idea. The sheer lack of uniforms is an issue discussed in Russia, they were corruptly sold as usual. The putinbots these days are piss poor.
 
A news channel from the 'Donetsk People's Republic' has reported that conscripts from Kaliningrad are already being sent to Ukraine less than two weeks after mobilization. Literal cannon fodder, those poor fucks.


Mobilized from the Kaliningrad region are sent to the combat zone to perform their tasks

A dispatch ceremony for conscripts was held at the Chkalovsk airfield in the Kaliningrad region. It was attended by representatives of the Baltic Fleet command, the regional government, and public and veteran organizations.

Oh, and would it surprise you to learn that the person behind one of the largest English language vatnik podcasts never served in the Russian military even though Russia has mandatory military service?

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This is what I imagine all of these chickenhawks look like:


 
1. Is either side able to rotate out frontline troops and send them back home for a week to eat mom's cooking, fuck their wife, play catch with the kids, and so forth?
Yes, my own brother in Ukraine called me recently on one of these rotations. Ukraine actually values lives of its men and is conscious of the fact that it's a limited resource.
From what I've seen on the Russian side, it's out of the frying pan into the fire.
 
A couple questions:

1. Is either side able to rotate out frontline troops and send them back home for a week to eat mom's cooking, fuck their wife, play catch with the kids, and so forth?

2. What are the Russians eating right now? What will they be eating in four months?

3. For that matter, where are they sleeping? Still in civilian houses?

4. How will loss of leaf cover change the strategy?

I guess a lot of this boils down to what the supply lines are looking like. My impression is that the Ukrainians are more organized in this matter than the Russians are, and the winter will only reinforce this advantage, but I can't point to a single source to prove it.
1. Ukraine does. All reports indicate that Russia is sending tired, half defeated units back to the front with no rest or even time to properly rearm and basic maintenance. This is what happened to all the units pulled away from Kyiv in that so called "feint".
2. All things considered, probably Soviet era field rations. Barring that, they probably pillage whatever they want from the local population.
3. More than likely. Either that or on the ground.
4. Drones are gonna have even more of a field day than they do now.

Russian supply lines are about to get fucked royally. The Ukrainians are cutting off or about to cut off some of their main supply routes in the north, which will make it difficult to impossible to timely supply their troops in the east and south. They've already destroyed the bridges to Kherson, making resupply of the units guarding that city outright impossible.
 
1. Ukraine does. All reports indicate that Russia is sending tired, half defeated units back to the front with no rest or even time to properly rearm and basic maintenance. This is what happened to all the units pulled away from Kyiv in that so called "feint".
2. All things considered, probably Soviet era field rations. Barring that, they probably pillage whatever they want from the local population.
3. More than likely. Either that or on the ground.
4. Drones are gonna have even more of a field day than they do now.

Russian supply lines are about to get fucked royally. The Ukrainians are cutting off or about to cut off some of their main supply routes in the north, which will make it difficult to impossible to timely supply their troops in the east and south. They've already destroyed the bridges to Kherson, making resupply of the units guarding that city outright impossible.
All the "Ooh, they're going to be able to dig in over the winter and Ukraine will be fucked!" talk is hilarious. Russia can't even properly equip their soldiers with summer gear. Frostbite isn't going to make them tougher despite frozen body parts being harder than unfrozen ones.
 
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