Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Shes been more than outspoken about the retarded hypocritical sanctions that are only hurting the citizen of Europe

It would be great if the biggest terrorist nation, the US, gets a nuked dropped on D.C. Maybe then the world can finally find some peace.

And until then, we will have to settle on Russia getting rekt instead.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

@Mr E. Grifter

Will answer only the unique parts since things like troop numbers and morale in general we've already exhausted before the autistic online slap fight range where we repeat ourselves at each other until one side quits out of boredom.

The Taliban and Afghanistan examples are entirely off-base. Not only because this isn't any form of guerilla war or because of the numbers involved, but because the core point about being able to fade into a civilian population that hates you is flatly wrong. There's no hostile guerilla force going on behind Russian lines that isn't effectively meaningless. No resistance to 'occupation'. The Russian front at Kharkov didn't collapse because of an ungovernable populace that refused to cooperate but because there was next to no one there. In Novorossiya the population is at best apathetic like all the people they quizzed in Izyum, at worst actively in support of them. This is known to the Ukrainians themselves which is why there's dozens of telegrams dedicated to finding traitors to be dealt with and reprisal attacks against 'collaborators' the second they come in. This isn't the US in desert shithole #46 where you and the population have nothing in common and you can only hold them by force, you have a similar population to work with. This is closer to a civil war than anything else. This means that if there's a stable frontline, if it bends it'll be because of outside pressure, not internal collapse. If you've an apathetic populace what matters is if you can hold the line, which even you admit can be achieved with a reservist or conscript force.

The use of a quickly trained force to plug gaps and hold territory is how the Ukraine managed to stabilize past July. Taking everything said about the Russian supply situation as wrote, the arguing over which'd again just get us into pseud numbers games based on my or your cherrypicked articles, we're again put in the same situation. Russia doesn't need to produce overwhelming amounts nor to achieve peak logistical abilities. What they need to do is overperform a state that has essentially no production to speak of and allies that also have significantly less production than Russia by orders of magnitude and unlike Russia don't have an existential incentive to pour these resources in. The one exception is the US which has an overwhelming advantage, but slow production and has given no indication of a coming ramp-up in manufacturing, not even in word. Russia doesn't have to supply people from across the world, it needs to supply directly across its borders in a state to be soon of military footing in such a situation where unlike with Ukraine, none of its manufacturing or inland logistical sites are at risk of any kind of plausible attack.

Your arguments hinge by and large on there being a meaningful, decisive difference between Ukrainians and Russians in morale, ability and equipment that'd go past the observable economic and demographic factors. The reality is though that Ukrainians are temporarily embarrassed Russians already in a state of a total war with a finite supply of Western equipment and who's ability to wage a long conflict of attrition rests entirely on continued handouts given their 35+% rate of economic downturn over the course of just the first year. Failing total collapse on the homefront leading to a humiliating peace deal or Western military support in the coming years equal to or exceeding what they've sent this year which is physically unlikely, the numbers point only towards eventual Russian victory, the question being how crippled they'll be by the end. Will drop it here to avoid bible-length internet slap fights, but in the short term, we're of the same mind that Russia will continue suffering losses and pushback, and in the mid to long-term the position of either will be born out by the facts.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Rybar seems to think Ukraine is going to counterattack in Zaporizhia. Those direction arrows seem pretty high energy. View attachment 3720964

What are they smoking, basically just two big arrows lmao

 

[Fait Accompli]

Not goning to happen, the area is too populated to use the same strategy of shelling Russian forces to hell as in other regions. We will probably see hellish clashes with heavy losses from both sides.

Well yeah, if they do a frontal assault and russians amass in that area

But if Ukraine gets closer, they'll be able to hit their supplies going into Kherson even more effectively, the only logical solution would be to withdraw to the other side of the Dniepr

 

[potato fan]

Russia redeemed tanks despite being told not to



some russians got DRONED.UA

 

[Pork Packer]

Russia redeemed tanks despite being told not to

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rob the machine of the bobs and vagine

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

And how are NATO bros doing on the economic front of this war?

Firewood shortages are forcing the once-proud nation of Poland to burn garbage to stay alive:

Polish Households Burn Trash To Stay Warm As Sanctions On Russia Backfire | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The Germans aren't doing much better, they also have no more firewood left so they are resorting to heating their homes by burning their cuck muzzles and the occasional fat American soldier who wanders too close to the incinerator.

Verfallsdatum abgelaufen: Bund will knapp 800 Millionen Masken verbrennen - WELT

Not macht erfinderisch: Der Bund muss offenbar Hunderte Millionen Masken aus Pandemiezeiten entsorgen. Dabei handelt es sich um Fehl- und Zuvielkäufe vom früheren Gesundheitsminister Jens Spahn. Wenigstens einen Nutzen soll die Verschwendung nun haben.

www.welt.de

And where is Joe Biden? After he completed his begging tour of Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, he inexplicably dealt yet another blow to US economy by blocking all off-shore drilling. Starting to suspect he may be on Putin's payroll, you guys.

As Biden Welcomes Venezuela Oil, He Prepares To Block All US Offshore Drilling | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Bad times ahead, NATO bros.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Your arguments hinge by and large on there being a meaningful, decisive difference between Ukrainians and Russians in morale, ability and equipment

Reality supports there being a meaningful difference between Ukrainians and Russians in morale, ability, and equipment.

edit: in b4 "Russians have better morale, ability, and equipment."

 

[AgendaPoster]

All three of those adverts are cringe, the Chinese one because it has all the hallmarks of one of those Chinese war films that are 3 hours of people running and screaming.

Thing is, whilst the US one was the worst as an advert what they are  trying to do makes sense. The whole diversity drive isn't a bad idea, but it shouldn't be about gay mums and shit, it should be reaching out to all sorts of people because militaries with high tech kit like Patriot need people with different skills.

In fact, I think the Chinese one isn't half bad in this regard either. At least they are showing off different aspects and capabilities of the PLA. It wasn't just do 100 pull ups and shoot a bad man.

Russias one is ultimately just promoting the chauvinistic view that the military is all manly, it's about doing push ups and shooting guns and explosions. It's not, and militaries that think that will lose 10 times out of 10 to the militaries with gay mother's bastard children.

No.
Having ideals is good. Diversity can be and usually is problematic. Being strong and fit are good ideals. Projecting weakness and vulnerability is not.
The USA is in the wrong here, suicidally so.
Promoting strength does not need to be chauvinistic.
You can promote the image of a Ukrainian soldier that was taken from his family to defend the nation. Strong, but using his ability to protect, instead of for conquest.
The US needs to get it together and stop putting fossils in power. Get a JFK back in and become a nation that can be admired yet again.
Stop fetishizing weakness and the mentally ill. Thanks.

 

[Beak Thing]

The US needs to get it together and stop putting fossils in power. Get a JFK back in and become a nation that can be admired yet again.
Stop fetishizing weakness and the mentally ill. Thanks.

Ironically Biden's cucking Russia just as much as JFK did when they had to back down in Cuba.

Guess that's what happens when you're led by a corrupt KGB bolshie who never put in an honest day's work in his entire life, though. Putin got played by JOE BIDEN. Incidentally he's another corrupt politician who never put in an honest day's work in his entire life, although maybe the "takes one to know one" approach was useful this time.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Firewood shortages are forcing the once-proud nation of Poland to burn garbage to stay alive:

Europe has been burning trash as a source of energy for decades.

From 2018:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/climate/sweden-garbage-used-for-fuel.html

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Stop fetishizing weakness and the mentally ill. Thanks.

Well that's just downright unamerican! What's next, stop watching BBC porn?

Europe has been burning trash as a source of energy for decades.

From 2018:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/climate/sweden-garbage-used-for-fuel.html

> can't tell the difference between an industrial trash burning operation and poverty-stricken polish subhumans using household garbage instead of firewood to warm their miserable hovels

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

Why are westoid oppai enjoying "nazis" so cowardly that they expect Russia and China to fix their tranny problem, and why are they always conflating war in which thousands die with their Internet drama and shitposting?
Is it the microplastics? The seed oils? The missing dad? The onlyfans mother?
We need a Deep Dive

She's a retard.
We will have peace when the territorial integrity of Ukraine has been restored, OR if Ukraine democratically decides that they want to give land for peace - that is their choice.
As for giving arms to Yemenis and Palestinians, why, the European leftist is yet again retarded, those are far away, brown peoples, and Europeans have almost no interests in those areas. Not to mention Saudi oil and Israel's (hence the US) rather overwhelming influence.
Ideally the Saudis would stop the war, the Iranians would stop trying to create Shia areas in the peninsula, and the Israelis would give the Palestinians their country as it was mandated by the UN. Likely to not happen.
The Ukraine war is on our borders, and important. Russia is a large, very dangerous enemy. Saudis and Israelis are remote and hardly a threat.
If you want peace, you want the territorial integrity restored and to make a clear statement that invading European nations like it's 1800 is not tolerated.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Looks like more obvious Ukrainian propaganda got debunked, this time by their German "partners" at BILD.

Turns out none of these are gold, they're just regular Ukrainian yellow teeth, and the whole box was stolen from a local dentist.

Did these gold teeth really come from victims of torture?

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense expressed a gruesome suspicion on Twitter, posting a photo of a box of dental crowns. But BILD met the village dentist – he says no.

www.bild.de

Did these gold teeth really come from victims of torture? | Politik |…

archived 6 Oct 2022 12:34:52 UTC

archive.ph

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Well that's just downright unamerican! What's next, stop watching BBC porn?


> can't tell the difference between an industrial trash burning operation and poverty-stricken polish subhumans using household garbage instead of firewood to warm their miserable hovels

The poverty stricken in Europe have been burning trash for decades as well, including Russians.

Russian incinerators are so poorly run that one in every 35 people in a Russian town have cancer, and that is an "industrial" operation.

An Incinerator In Tatarstan Is The Latest Battleground In Russia's Garbage Wars

Plans to build a trash incinerator plant in a town in the southern Russian republic of Tatarstan have sparked protests over fears the plant will dirty the air and cause more cases of cancer.

www.rferl.org

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

The poverty stricken in Europe have been burning trash for decades as well.

Yes, because they have no gas, oil, or firewood. That's what resource-poor nations do. Other nations who have resources can afford to recycle their trash instead of burning it.

Just a reminder, Russia is backed by OPEC+, NATO is backed by LGBT+. Pretty obvious choice, if you ask me.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Other nations who have resources can afford to recycle their trash instead of burning it.

Russia is currently struggling with a landfill problems due to lack of recycling and their industrial-scale incinerators are giving residents in nearby towns cancer.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Russia is currently struggling with a landfill problems due to lack of recycling.

Maybe if Europeans ask nicely, Russia will allow them to purchase some garbage to burn.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Ironically Biden's cucking Russia just as much as JFK did when they had to back down in Cuba.

Guess that's what happens when you're led by a corrupt KGB bolshie who never put in an honest day's work in his entire life, though. Putin got played by JOE BIDEN. Incidentally he's another corrupt politician who never put in an honest day's work in his entire life, although maybe the "takes one to know one" approach was useful this time.

Funny, last I heard Biden was lacking between the ears and you had to go through his handlers since no admission will be made about mental capacity because reasons. Did Biden find something to retaliate against any alleged dirty laundry that Russian forces find in their conquests, much less anything in Kiev?

Seriously, all this is happening because Putin came across the equivalent of a snarling dog on a leash, aching to be taken off it, with the Walker struggling to keep control , while Putin’s dog was never on a leash to begin with and is just watching, waiting to sic it at the first chance he can get to not look like the bad guy in the situation.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Maybe if Europeans ask nicely, Russia will allow them to purchase some garbage to burn.

Despite owning a vast swath of fossil fuel reserves, the Russian government plans to increase incinerator output to cover its own energy shortfalls:

Russia requires hundreds of incinerators to produce clean energy — president's envoy

Five plants are already under construction, while 25 more are going to be built, Special Presidential Representative for Environmental Protection, Ecology and Transport Sergei Ivanov added

tass.com