US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[JustSomeDong]

I'd rather a meteor hit the Earth than a nuclear fallout. At least then, we'd have no-one to blame.

I'm #TeamGRB. We can't take a chance on survivors...

 

[Meat Target]

You know the saying, politics is only one step removed from culture. Culture as we know it is fubar with this troon shit infecting everything.

Life imitates art.

 

[SneedEyeMitch the 2nd]

I'd rather a meteor hit the Earth than a nuclear fallout. At least then, we'd have no-one to blame.

That would fall under "Act of God"

 

[AnOminous]

If I was Ukraine's advisor, I would've used Russia's retreat to establish some form of peace treaty and quit while we're ahead. Maybe exchange some Russian women in the process.

Isn't the point of the UN and NATO is to perserve peace between nations to avoid another World War?

That was the point, or specifically to deter Russian aggression. Now it appears to be for various European countries to install puppet regimes directly on Russia's border and then act *shocked Pikachu face* when they react poorly to it, while the U.S. picks up the tab for all this bullshit.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

while the U.S. and the U.S. taxpayer picks up the tab for all this bullshit.

Updated for you.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Nah, The Day After still literally gives me recurring nightmares.

Before that, I assumed flyover states were relatively safe, and that coasties were gonna catch most of them. Same for Britbongs, so Threads didn't bother me as much.

TDA shows landmarks where I myself have stood. That fucked with me. And it fucks with me even more that people in my area still hold on to the "it couldn't happen here" mentality.

Nah, It has its moments...and it has Steve motherfuckin' Gutenberg. There's several good ones, and they all have their own place. I have a few more on an external drive somewhere. The return to monke movies got me hooked on the genre as a lad, and so I pirated these in my younger days. I even kept the shitty later monke movies, just for completion sake. Fuck the remakes, though.
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Fair points, but I dunno. The Day After feels...artificial, I guess is the word. Like you're watching a Hollywood movie. The scene where the missiles launch, for example; how one dude has to actually stop and explain what's happening ("They're on their way to Russia!"). Threads, on the other hand, feels more "real". Like you're actually watching a documentary on an alternate history 1980s UK in which the Cold War turned hot. The nuke scene in Threads has no time for melodramatic "OH GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!" pontificating. Just people screaming, running, and cold, hard, text going "this is how much Britain will be screwed in the event this actually happens."

 

[Beautiful Loser]

People, particularly those born after 1980 or so, struggle to fathom just how FINAL a nuke is. If one's dropped, then ALL of them will be. EMPs will make anything electronic useless. That includes heating, A/C, any sort of non radio-based communication. Society instantly brought back to the pre-Industrial age. 200 years of advancements and culture wiped out overnight; even those kept within museums won't be safe; the few survivors will be sure to ransack the Louvre simply for the tale of having the actual Mona Lisa in their living room. Air and water contaminated with deadly radiation. And nothing to help you. No-one to help you. Every face of authority, from police, to the military, to the people who talk on the TV all gone, likely forever. You are on your own. Your children, grand-children, and great grand-children, if they even exist, will never know a "normal" world. Only spoken/written legend and the analogue photo/video which survives.

It won't be a zombie apocalypse as you've romanticised it, this is real, existential, human horror at its absolute worst. The sun, moon/stars and the occasional fire/candle will be your only light. Every night will be wrapped in total blackness. No more lights. No more screens. No more neon signs. Not even headlights.

The lucky ones will be those closest to the epicentre of a nuke. Especially if it happens at night. Not even enough time to figure out where they are, let alone their existence is about to be terminated. Those further away will have the misfortune of feeling their own flesh burn for a second or two, but for those too far away to be vapourised, may God have mercy on their souls.

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This is what was called an "Ant-walking Alligator" by the Japanese. It's the only photo of one in existence. This is what happened to the people exposed to the nuke, but not enough to kill them straight away. Their skin was burnt down to the bone, forming lizard-like scales. Anything remotely fleshy like tongues were destroyed by the heat, leaving them unable to speak anything other than horrific murmurs. And yes, if the picture isn't clear enough, their eyes are GONE, completely melted out of their sockets. All they could do for the few hours before they died was shuffle along, like ants. These were people with normal lives until that fateful day. I hope as Oppenheimer slowly withered away from throat cancer and the futile chemotherapy (how IRONIC), he saw these faces in his sleep every single night, getting closer to him as he inched towards death.

Times like these I'm glad I'm within instadeath radius of a high priority target. Don't even wanna imagine Fallout: Way the Fuck Upstate NY.

 

[JustSomeDong]

Fair points, but I dunno. The Day After feels...artificial, I guess is the word. Like you're watching a Hollywood movie. The scene where the missiles launch, for example; how one dude has to actually stop and explain what's happening ("They're on their way to Russia!"). Threads, on the other hand, feels more "real". Like you're actually watching a documentary on an alternate history 1980s UK in which the Cold War turned hot. The nuke scene in Threads has no time for melodramatic "OH GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!" pontificating. Just people screaming, running, and cold, hard, text going "this is how much Britain will be screwed in the event this actually happens."

You're not wrong, to be sure. The writing was pretty hackney'd. The middle America exposition scenes were glaringly written by Hollywood people who'd call middle America "flyover country" on twitter, today. With how the entire damned city of Lawrence turned out to help the production, you'd think they would have ran that shit by someone local for a reality check.

But, I got to watch the 'Gute basically turn into a Fallout Ghoul, and that's priceless.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

Fair points, but I dunno. The Day After feels...artificial, I guess is the word. Like you're watching a Hollywood movie. The scene where the missiles launch, for example; how one dude has to actually stop and explain what's happening ("They're on their way to Russia!"). Threads, on the other hand, feels more "real". Like you're actually watching a documentary on an alternate history 1980s UK in which the Cold War turned hot. The nuke scene in Threads has no time for melodramatic "OH GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!" pontificating. Just people screaming, running, and cold, hard, text going "this is how much Britain will be screwed in the event this actually happens."

Threads is one of the very few movies to really terrify me for a long term

I am both pissed, depressed, and laughing over how horrifically retarded our leaders are and their NPCs. War is hell. Nuclear War is hell to the hell power. People for so long knew that after the horrors of WWI/II/Vietnam, but now our tranny ass boomer world order doesn't give a fuck. Times like this mkaes me wish there was some world revolution, just one to remove this pinko rot so we can go back to grilling and not worrying about being mass-scattered by ICBMs

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Backpedaling Biden Janny to the rescue(?) yet again!

 

[Mr Bunny]

Good thing the US nuclear arsenal has a lot more to it than simply pushing a big red button.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Good thing the US nuclear arsenal has a lot more to it than simply pushing a big red button.

Yes, but the people the US government hires are people like Milley and the Tranny Energy secretary. That's the real problem of the Biden administration; it's not just that Biden is a senile coward that rapes his daughter, it's that all the people under him are incompetent too.

 

[Narcotics]

It's just senile joe propping up fear porn for the masses, notice how almost instantly the press sec and other gov glowies came out to say "actually we haven't seen anything that suggets russia's gonna nuke something"? classic joe routine, come out, say bullshit, go get some icecream and some kids to sniff and let your glowies clean up your mess.
He said the quote in a dem fundraiser event, that's how politicians get their kicks going, fear is one hell of a tool, so you gotta inyect fear to your voters to keep em manipulable and guillable.

They are all insane and evil anyways, z man, Putin, Biden or whoever. Doesn’t matter since it will be used as a “ZOMFG OLOLO ARMAGEDDON GET VAXXED” headline anyways.

Besides, he alone can't press the red button, a whole chain of commands that runs through many people who all have to agree to let the nukes fly needs to happen first. But that's scary In and of itself , are we sure that in that whole chain, all of them will be alright with bringing foward the end of the world? I hope not, i pray not, but i don't know, who knows, really.

 

[Meat Target]

It's just senile joe propping up fear porn for the masses, notice how almost instantly the press sec and other gov glowies came out to say "actually we haven't seen anything that suggets russia's gonna nuke something"? classic joe routine, come out, say bullshit, go get some icecream and some kids to sniff and let your glowies clean up your mess.
He said the quote in a dem fundraiser event, that's how politicians get their kicks going, fear is one hell of a tool, so you gotta inyect fear to your voters to keep em manipulable and guillable.

Besides, he alone can't press the red button, a whole chain of commands that runs through many people who all have to agree to let the nukes fly needs to happen first. But that's scary In and of itself , are we sure that in that whole chain, all of them will be alright with bringing foward the end of the world? I hope not, i pray not, but i don't know, who knows, really.

Hey, what's that thing I always say about when they deny things?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

In lighter, more kek-worthy news, the Dems continue to suffer from the Consequences of Their Own Actions:

Turns out the reaping is a lot less fun than the sowing, eh?

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Backpedaling Biden Janny to the rescue(?) yet again!
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As I was catching up through this thread and reading all the nuclear doom posting, a thought occurred to me. Are joe (or his handlers) attempting to pull a bush jr?"WE'RE AT WAR. WW3, NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON, CIVIL WAR, MAGA TERRORISTS, WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR. so plz don't change leadership in novemeber because wartime, please and thank you".

This tracks with his behavior with Russia and the Dark Brandon speech.
>give big scary doom and gloom speeches
>silently retract them the next day
>normies are scared and won't notice the retraction, will hypothetically vote for you out of fear
>people who matter, aka world leaders and the like will hear the retraction

 

[tehpope]

Yes, but the people the US government hires are people like Milley and the Tranny Energy secretary. That's the real problem of the Biden administration; it's not just that Biden is a senile coward that rapes his daughter, it's that all the people under him are incompetent too.

Thank you. That is the scary part. A retard and his retard cabinet have the nuclear football and won't compromise on anything. They'd rather the human race die than compromise because they want to diddle kids, get more money and power.

Theyre chasing this dragon of public opinion comprised of a group of people who they can never please. Because these insane fucks change their minds every second.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

You sure? I'm hearing these draftees are already starting to pop up as POWs caught by the Ukrainians.

That being said, yeah, they SHOULD be training them or using them as cadre to train younger soldiers. Then again, it's Russia, and we've already determined their logistics is hot garbage. Maybe their personnel management is too.

There are four pools of recruitment currently for new Russian military formations.

First is the recently recalled Draftees which are mostly what we would call Reservists. They have previous military services almost as a prerequisite. There is a lot of talk about expanding the Draft, but that is just talk right now. These units are not involved in combat s they are currently re-training. This comes from the Russian MoD, Brits, and the ISW are saying that the vast, vast majority of these troops are concentrated in two area: Belgorod and Donetsk/Rostov-on-Don. It will likely be another month or two before we really see these guys.

The Second group is "willing recruits" from prison populations. This has recently expanded to a full recruitment campaign but it was trialed on several populations right when the war started. These people are most all shuffled into the Wagner military outfit. These are the poor dumb bastards being used to assault Bakhmut in the Donbas. They get a month or two of Basic and CQC training, and into the meat grinder they go. Most of the guys you hear about being "Draftees being sent to fight Stalingrad style" are these chucklefucks.

The Third group is regional volunteer units which started forming after the Kiev offensive ended. These guys have not shown up on the frontlines as far as I know.

The Forth is regular conscripts which then volunteer to become a professional "contract" soldier. Supposedly this is where a lot of the replacement personnel are coming from. They are at least trained to the same level as their opponents.

We can discuss Russian military competency later and elsewhere.

What if you could target their electronics in flight? Find them in the sky and bounce a pulse off the ionosphere that cooks them? Is it possible that we have something like that, and that's why people who seem like they really really ought to know better seem to be laughing off nuclear Armageddon?

No. Nuclear weapons are extremely hardened against electrical interference.

It's like John Lithgow's character in The Day After said, in response to whether Kansas would get nuked: "there's no 'nowhere' anymore".

I lived in a place in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma which would have been hit by a Strategic Nukes because of the Grain Silos. Nuclear War is a special kind of Fuck You.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

As I was catching up through this thread and reading all the nuclear doom posting, a thought occurred to me. Are joe (or his handlers) attempting to pull a bush jr?"WE'RE AT WAR. WW3, NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON, CIVIL WAR, MAGA TERRORISTS, WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR. so plz don't change leadership in novemeber because wartime, please and thank you".

This tracks with his behavior with Russia and the Dark Brandon speech.
>give big scary doom and gloom speeches
>silently retract them the next day
>normies are scared and won't notice the retraction, will hypothetically vote for you out of fear
>people who matter, aka world leaders and the like will hear the retraction

It sounds plausible, but then you realize they're too incompetent to pull something like that off. Somebody'd most likely spill the beans, and then what? Plus, who's to say after voting him in, the Brandon admin won't do a 180 and launch the nukes anyway, because fuck the plebs?

 

[Mr Bunny]

It sounds plausible, but then you realize they're too incompetent to pull something like that off. Somebody'd most likely spill the beans, and then what? Plus, who's to say after voting him in, the Brandon admin won't do a 180 and launch the nukes anyway, because fuck the plebs?

Not even that, Gehenna talked about it over a year ago how the polls where showing that people where blaming Biden for the situation in Ukraine, if that's still the case a year later then any mention of Ukraine or things looking to get worse due to it puts Biden at a negative.